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Storm Ophelia - General Discussion/Local reports - See MOD NOTE Post #1

Samaris

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'Scuse me if I'm breaking any rules of Weather here with another thread, but didn't want to derail the main thread with too much chatter.

Guessing a lot of people (particularly us mostly-lurkers) might be in the same boat as me - not really sure what this all means on the ground in terms of preparation - and even if it's not too awful, I for one would prefer to be over-prepared rather than under-prepared! (At the moment, I don't feel that prepared at all!)

I'm living in a pretty exposed place for this particular set of indicators (on a narrow, south-west jutting peninsula off the Galway coast) and thus somewhat nervous about it. We're moving the bedroom to the sitting room as I've always been a bit dubious about the tall trees on that side of the house, but apart from that, sheltering the car (somehow) and ensuring there's as little potential debris as possible, I'm a bit at a loss. Water, candles might be an idea to get in.

Any more experienced people have ideas? Or what are others in the firing line doing?

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Paully D

One of the most problematic things about this I see is that the real trouble isn't scheduled to start until the afternoon.

So those that have been forwarning people about the potential impact will be laughed at in the morning and sibsequently expected to go to work/school/college etc.

Then people are in work/school/college whatever the case may be, and Ophelia really stars to hit during lunchtime and leaving time, resulting in a deadly commute back.

Sierra Oscar

Chairman of NECC comparing the storm to Debbie, highlighting that 11 lives were lost on that occasion. Stated that this is a serious public safety issue and advised people to stay indoors during the storm.

An Garda Síochána up now advising people against travelling on roads during the storm and encouraging people to check in on vulnerable neighbours and relatives.

iguana

__..__ wrote: »

If schools are open tomorrow. Kids will get to school when the wind is low and then be in danger on the way home. Ridiculous situation.

I'm seeing a load of schools in Limerick issuing notices that they are staying open. It's a really disgraceful position to take in my opinion. It's one day that can be made up in the future if necessary. They should close keep the kids safe and allow families who need to make childcare preparations enough time to do so.

Samaris wrote: »

No harm to have water prepared too, by the way. Fill a bath or a large container with water for washing and toilet-flushing and have water prepared for drinking too.

There is a possibility of contamination of water supplies - particularly wells if the pump goes down for some time, but also large reservoirs and mains water supplies.

Do you really think there is much likelihood of the water supply being disrupted in urban areas?

awec

Asked in the other thread and may be a stupid question, but do people in taller buildings need to be concerned here? Ireland doesn’t really have any truly high rise apartments with 15/16 floors being as high as it goes.

But all this talk of cat2 etc has me a bit concerned but probably unnecessarily so?

Coax

AlekSmart wrote: »

I can well imagine their mystification

Unfortunately our National Psyche is built around a core principle of never being the first one to make a concrete decision,or take direct action on any given issue.

We drive as we vote,sticking to the middle lane or white line,never moving too far to either side,which leaves us with some interesting Driving Scenario's,never mind Political ones.

As for this "Emergency",which has been a steadily developing threat for the past week,the essential element for the National Emergency Committee will be to consider and debate upon how little to do,rather than initiate any large scale co-ordinated response...which might set a precedent.

All these oul County Councillors,City & County Managers,with their accountancy degrees and fingers in various Auctioneering and Property Development businesses,are looking at the longer game,with none of them wanting to be the first to jump,and sanction SPENDING on stuff that might benefit people in times of emergency.

Most of these lads would be less worried about the Storm itself,than the danger of them setting a precedent for future weather events.;)

Well said. Agree 100% with these comments.

We fo not do emergency planning or preparation properly, nor do we take it seriously either at individual or national level.

There are a few organisations such as ESB Networks who plan and exectue exceptionally well who are well placed to offer meaningful advice in a round table planning meeting.

Emergency planning and preparation does not need to cost the earth. The vast majority of it is about being sensible and at a national level providing adequate notice, guidance and information at regular intervals.

It's time the "sure it'll never happen" attitude changes. The preperation for the coming weather is absolutely minimal and common sense.

People worrying about the tree or branch that might fall on their home or vehicle, the roof blowing off the shed or barn demonstrates our attitude to maintenance and construction in general. These sort of things only become an issue if they are not looked after in the regular course of events.

Garden furniture, wheelie buns, trampolines etc are easy to deal with and there is no excuse for any of these items becoming debris.

km79

Psychologeeee wrote: »

I'm based in louth, so I'm not sure what the impact here will be, but nonetheless, I have candles/water/non-perishables in, powerbanks charging up for phones, and duct tape to tape up the heavy bin lids.

I wish you were my neighbour as opposed to the lad who has bunting, flags and a wheelbarrow left out in the garden at the moment

TomOnBoard

While its showing that the West Coast has Yellow warning level for today (valid from 15.10.2017 05:00 CET Until 15.10.2017 12:00 CET) "Winds of Beaufort force 8 or 9 expected:-see full gale warning at www.met.ie", I see the warning level on MeteoAlarm is showing Ireland as "No special awareness required" for tomorrow.

http://www.meteoalarm.eu/en_UK/1/0/IE-Ireland.html

How does this tally with Met Eireann's website that says:"Another international development of significance is the maturing of the MeteoAlarm system, (see www.meteoalarm.eu) which implies greater co-ordination of warnings across Europe and the coherence of warnings across national boundaries. This has led to the adoption of a common European framework and terminology for the presentation of Weather Warnings, and the alignment of national Weather Warnings Systems with the international MeteoAlarm framework where this is possible."

Someone needs to press the 'Update" button!!

lawred2

Is this thing still classed as a hurricane then?

Ludo

So I assume after that press conference, all schools in Cork will be closed tomorrow? Makes decisions easier anyway.

Knine

Colby Tall Shootout wrote: »

That is very late notice to ensure the school is secured and that everyone is notified.

My child travels on Bus Eireann. We got a letter last year saying for Red Warnings, Buses would not run. So we have had plenty of notice. I am in Dublin btw

Sierra Oscar

Just watching the NECC press conference. They're advising all schools and childcare facilities to close tomorrow.

titan18

Kind of wondering will the office be the best place to ride this out. Getting in for work looks like no issue in Cork, but getting home will be. Might be best to bring a sleeping bag to office, as more likely electricity and water will last there than my house.

Mr.Crinklewood

MidMan25 wrote: »

Only 15 hurricanes have come within 200 nautical miles of the Azores Island sine records began in 1851

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Only 15 such events have been measured at the Azores since 1851

Thank you.

Harry Palmr

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

What was that about 1851?

Only 15 such events have been measured at the Azores since 1851

MidMan25

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

What was that about 1851?

Only 15 hurricanes have come within 200 nautical miles of the Azores Island sine records began in 1851

Samaris

__..__ wrote: »

Well I suppose if we are not all dead tomorrow and this is a non event then you'll see this thread linked in every nlthread about future storms.

And if it is an event, it will still be linked! :P

Probably not if we're all dead, I'll grant that one.

Edit: holy hannah, there's 1400 people lurking the Weather forum at the moment!

munsterlegend

There is usually a met eireann lunch time update re warnings so maybe they will add more counties.

__..__

dirkmeister wrote: »

Michael Fish on Sky News there pretty much said we are in for quite the ride tomorrow.

Amazing how unprepared the country seems to be.

Well I suppose if we are not all dead tomorrow and this is a non event then you'll see this thread linked in every nlthread about future storms.

Mr.Crinklewood

What was that about 1851?

km79

Keep going east good girl

Red Nissan

flazio wrote: »

I'm thinking it's more like we all feel like we're the third little pig in the fairy tale, we didn't build weak wooden houses like the Americans in tornado valley keep doing we built solid brick houses which can withstand harsh winters no bother.
All well and good until a tree comes in through the roof.

Weak wooden houses; I used to think that way as well but the majority of these wooden houses come pre-built on two or three semi trailers and can be up and hospitable in the shortest possible time-frame.

Newer houses are being built with a permanent reinforced concrete center but they have no plans to discontinue wood. Damage here at home to our bricks will be near permanent taking six months to a year or more to rebuild damage and six months to clear the roads of trees, though councils have done a good job in relocating trees, managed and trimming trees based on long-term weather forecasts, so tree disruption will probably be local and certainly not a repeat of 1987.

fryup

dirkmeister wrote: »

Michael Fish on Sky News there pretty much said we are in for quite the ride tomorrow.

ooh saucy !

r93kaey5p2izun

Weathercheck wrote: »

Schools will be closed in Red warning regions. Decision to extend red to Dublin may occur this evening.

That is very late notice to ensure the school is secured and that everyone is notified.

Harry Palmr

Finally Waterford and Wexford added to the list of RED according to a live feed from the NECC

fryup

Wombatman wrote: »

Is it only red for for Galway, Mayo, Clare, Cork and Kerry?

Why not East coast where wind predicted to be highest?

i don't understand that either??

either ME is right or the websites are wrong? baffled

Xenji

Cloudio9 wrote: »

Looks like Mayo is probably no longer Red but counties to the south and east of it will be Red.

Kind of validates Met E's decision not make a call >48 hours out.

Mayo will be causing them headaches, as with Ophelia still being 18 hours or so out there can always be subtle shifts in its path till it makes landfall that could bring it more westerly even by just a few miles.

dirkmeister

Michael Fish on Sky News there pretty much said we are in for quite the ride tomorrow.

Amazing how unprepared the country seems to be.

Samaris

No harm to have water prepared too, by the way. Fill a bath or a large container with water for washing and toilet-flushing and have water prepared for drinking too.

There is a possibility of contamination of water supplies - particularly wells if the pump goes down for some time, but also large reservoirs and mains water supplies. Personally, I'm expecting some water supplies to get contaminated or cut, although not hazarding a guess as to where. Combination of whether your water supply is vulnerable to either the full force (south east) or vulnerable to environmental hazards anyway (west & midlands).

Either way, no harm to have some preparations in place for the possibility.

ninebeanrows

Schools will be closed in Red warning regions. Decision to extend red to Dublin may occur this evening.

__..__

If schools are open tomorrow. Kids will get to school when the wind is low and then be in danger on the way home. Ridiculous situation.