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Man jailed for collecting dead mother's pension

Jon_459

Headline on RTE News website today:

Man jailed for collecting dead mother's pension for 16 years

Jaysus - 16 years in jail - that's harsh I thought - then I read it and saw he was sentenced to 18 months. He'd been collecting the pension for 16 years!

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Zebra3

Sure she could hardly collect it herself.

myshirt

Zebra3 wrote: »

Sure she could hardly collect it herself.

Yeah op, discriminate much?

[Deleted User]

Seems harsh.

Edit, nevermind. It isn't 16 years.

henryporter

OP posts without reading the article - 18 months in the clink for 16 years social welfare fraud - with remission etc, it should be about half that. Not a bad return really, plus he gets to be minded for the time he's in lock up.

edireland

About time something was done.

[Deleted User]

Jays but she went fierce quick in the end tho

737max

what happens to the 35 euro a week council house for the time that he is in Gaol.

ToddyDoody

How do they know she was dead?

begbysback

Quite sad really, we should have alternative methods of punishment in cases like this. There must have been some previous, if not the jail seems excessive.

granturismo

henryporter wrote: »

OP posts without reading the article
...

Poster posts without reading OP. OP's post isnt edited and correctly lists sentence as 18 months. OP points out misleading headline from RTE.

737max

Jail is not excessive

McMurphy

edireland wrote: »

About time something was done.

Yeah they've only this year got around to punishing people they catch defrauding the system.

endacl

Deleted User wrote: »

Jays but she went fierce quick in the end tho

All she wanted was a bitta cheeeeese. Terrible sad terrible sad.

begbysback

737max wrote: »

Jail is not excessive

Actually it seems he did have precious record, though 67 and half blind, for a crime that ended in 2013 of his own accord - unlikely to offend again, alternative method of punishment would be more suitable

frag420

So who is going to collect it now?

737max

I don't agree that jail is an innapropriate method of punishing him. That money which he took could have gone to oncology services or toward treating members of society with addiction problems or soemthing else. He gained while others dependent on the care of society suffered on without.

737max

frag420 wrote: »

So who is going to collect it now?

I assume the daughter who is a grown adult will continue to reside in the €35 per week council house in Walkistown which was "passed on" from the deceased lady to her son.

begbysback

737max wrote: »

I assume the daughter who is a grown adult will continue to reside in the €35 per week council house in Walkistown which was "passed on" from the deceased lady to her son.

:rolleyes:

sbsquarepants

I suppose I could do it, if he's stuck?

BorneTobyWilde

Will he still have to pay it back now that he got a prison sentence.

[Deleted User]

737max wrote: »

I assume the daughter who is a grown adult will continue to reside in the €35 per week council house in Walkistown which was "passed on" from the deceased lady to her son.

Where did it say they were social-housing tenants?

NinjaTruncs

Meanwhile a woman who pretty much did something similar gets a suspended sentence.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/pensioner-who-stole-more-than-200k-in-benefits-from-exchequer-avoids-jail-809700.html

Oops69

And still not a single banker in jail .

737max

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Where did it say they were social-housing tenants?

From the report from last week. Do a search in the internet using your seach engine of choice and you'll find it.

SEPT 23 1989

the fool made the mistake of not racking up a few hundred convictions

[Deleted User]

begbysback wrote:

Quite sad really, we should have alternative methods of punishment in cases like this. There must have been some previous, if not the jail seems excessive.

He stole 150k euro. How is jail not a suitable punishment?
He only got 18 months & only serves 75 percent of his time. The most he can serve is 13.5 months

It he was pick pocketing every week for 16 years & caught you'd expect him to get a much tougher sentence.

minikin

It’s what she woulda wanted...

He made the mistake of not running a company with the courts service as a client.

Ultimate Seduction

Mad how the dept took 16 years to realise the woman was dead

Agricola

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Mad how the dept took 16 years to realise the woman was dead

Yeah, you'd think when her 113th birthday rolled around, suspicions would have been raised

737max

There is software in the HSE and in other state departments which records when someone dies but because departments/offices don't communicate it doesn't get used.
Although this fraud started 16 years ago so I don't expect it would have caught this situation and most of these old fraudsters will only get caught when their parents are ready to receive a letter of congratulation from the President on reaching their centenary.