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Do you still put your leaving cert results on your CV?

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I was just looking over a CV for a friend who wants some advice. She's in her forties, with lots of experience relevant to the job she's going for, plus has gone on loads of training courses also related to her area of work. She still had her leaving cert results listed and I suggested that they're no longer really relevant.

But it just made me wonder at what point people tend to stop putting them on CVs and job applications?
I think I only bothered for the first few years after leaving school when I still didn't have much in the way of experience or qualifications.

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WoollyRedHat

valoren wrote: »

I got a bronze medal in the egg and spoon race during the sports day in June 1986. Definitely CV worthy.

I heard the fellow who won second ended up testing positive for drugs as well. He was more about the spoon than the egg if you know what I mean.

Nettle Soup

For anyone over 30, LC results and College results are almost worthless.
I just look at their work experience.

The Backwards Man

Hector Bellend wrote: »

No I'm 40 and have three degrees.

LC results no longer relevant

Precious moments.

keith_sixteen

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I was rejected from a job once based on my leaving cert results despite having a directly relevant first class honours degree.

Sounds like you dodge a bullet.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I was rejected from a job once based on my leaving cert results despite having a directly relevant first class honours degree.

That is really daft. Apart from anything else, people change a lot after they leave school. A poor leaving cert might just mean that you were a bit of a messer back then, or that the school system didn't suit you. If you've gone on to prove that you're intelligent and have a genuine interest in and aptitude for the area of work you're applying for, your Leaving Cert should have no bearing at all on the matter.

lawred2

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I was rejected from a job once based on my leaving cert results despite having a directly relevant first class honours degree.

they told you that?

hmmmm

maybe just a shoite interview?

amtc

I have a First Class Honours degree and two Masters so no. But went to an interview recently and was asked to bring my Leaving Certificate results with me, plus bizarrely my baptismal certificate (Not my birth certificate!!). I happened to have my Leaving Certificate results, and also my degree and Masters scrolls, and a large statue I got for being Student of the Year. So I brought the whole lot and my passport and driving licence. All were photocopied including statue. I also had to pay for parking, and I didn't get the job!

I did a review of a friend's brother's cv recently which cracked me up. It was fine till after his Leaving Certificate but then had on 21 July 1998 he came second in the Leixlip Swimming competition

The Backwards Man

I have them on mine to fill out the page nicely, it was either that or the referees.

Pawwed Rig

lawred2 wrote: »

they told you that?

hmmmm

maybe just a shoite interview?

Auto rejected by their software parameters. Didn't get an interview

Tegan Hot Leper wrote: »

That is really daft. Apart from anything else, people change a lot after they leave school. A poor leaving cert might just mean that you were a bit of a messer back then, or that the school system didn't suit you. If you've gone on to prove that you're intelligent and have a genuine interest in and aptitude for the area of work you're applying for, your Leaving Cert should have no bearing at all on the matter.

Yeah all worked out in the end but it limited my options somewhat for a period

Permabear

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lawred2

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Auto rejected by their software parameters. Didn't get an interview

that. is. stupid.

Wabbit Ears

I turned down a nearly 100k job simply because the HR girl insisted that, even though they were headhunting me, I provide them with my LC results or they couldn't process me into the system. Any company that has those sorts of red tape simply isn't an environment I wanted to be involved with.

Vojera

No, once I finished my degree I dropped it and just kept the Leaving Cert - Year format that others have mentioned. And were I to apply for a job now (I'm 32), I don't think I'd mention it at all. EDIT: (Actually just looked up the CV I used to apply for my current job four years ago and I didn't mention the Leaving Cert at all and my degree was just one line).

keith_sixteen wrote: »

I'm 35 and living in central Europe. No reference to the LC whatsoever. Degree gets one line near the bottom. Tend not to list hobbies / interests either.

In one role I had, I did have access to a lot of CVs. I was astounded to see people putting things like "playstation" under hobbies.

I think a hobbies section is fine if you can make it relevant to the application. For example, I used the fact that I've had work published in a hobby-related magazine as evidence of my ability to write well and communicate clearly. Or if someone was involved in organising amateur cons, they could spin that into organisation and social skills, etc. But a section that looks like:

Walking the dog
Watching films
Going to concerts

isn't very impressive.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

To be honest, I can't even remember what my leaving cert results were.

Definitely not worth putting on if you're over 30 or so. Employers will need more relevant information and experience when choosing what's shaped a potential employee and they might not have time to wade through a lot of information.

pawdee

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I was rejected from a job once based on my leaving cert results despite having a directly relevant first class honours degree.

I have a first class honours degree and I failed PASS MATHS in my LC in 1986. I shouldn't have been let in the door of school never mind university. To say I was a fck up is an understatement and no, I never put my LC results on my CV

wakka12

Doubt it makes any difference, but Im proud of them and worked hard for them so why not. Its one little bullet point that may help make a better impression.

JollyBustard

I've never had my results (for any education) listed on my CV, just what I've spent my time doing and where. Neither my degree (which I never officially completed) nor my LC results have any relevance in the field I've ended up in.

duffman13

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I was rejected from a job once based on my leaving cert results despite having a directly relevant first class honours degree.

Had the exact same happen, went to work elsewhere and three years later the same company contacted me through linkedin to see if I was interested in a new role. It was manager of the team I'd originally applied for. Some HR departments are just backwards and set in the stone age

[Deleted User]

some people do look at these still as a measure of ability.
if you did really well why not put them in.

Vojera

glasso wrote: »

some people do look at these still as a measure of ability.
if you did really well why not put them in.

I did pretty well and I'm proud of my results, but realistically it's been 15 years since I did my leaving cert (:eek:) and I've done a lot more relevant things since. I would worry that after a certain length of time, recruiters would look at my LC results on my CV and say "Yeah, but have you done nothing recently?"

alibaba2

No, only if they are specifically asked for.
just include the school and the year I sat the leaving and junior cert

Pawwed Rig

duffman13 wrote: »

Had the exact same happen, went to work elsewhere and three years later the same company contacted me through linkedin to see if I was interested in a new role. It was manager of the team I'd originally applied for. Some HR departments are just backwards and set in the stone age

It is what happens when HR get too many CVs. Easiest way to eliminate the majority is to put minimum requirements. Same as you I would walk into any of those places now.

alibaba2 wrote: »

and junior cert

Why??

ballsymchugh

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yes, although with less emphasis than I did when I started out as a graduate (I'm 30).

As a general rule of thumb, if you did well in the Leaving Cert, keep a brief summary of your results on there until you've clocked up 2 pages of more relevant achievements.

As an extension of that, if you're still talking about your Leaving Cert results by the time you're 40, you probably don't have many work-performance achievements behind you, and may want to look into that.

If you did badly in the Leaving Cert, just drop it altogether and focus on other achievements. Nobody will be too concerned, unless you're still in college or are very young.

where did these rules of thumb come out of?

if you're applying for a job from someone in a similar industry, then they're going to presume that if you went to college to do a course similar to what they did, then your LC results won't matter a damn to them.

the only thing that will matter is your qualification(s) and experience.

diomed

"I got my Leaving"

Richard Hillman

I had a job interview recently where they asked me about my secondary school. I haven't been in secondary school for near 15 years.

Noveight

Yep, I do. I'll be finished my Masters next year however, so I'll probably just cut the LC results down to a summary of sorts.

Anesthetize

Noveight wrote: »

Yep, I do. I'll be finished my Masters next year however, so I'll probably just cut the LC results down to a summary of sorts.

I cut my Bachelors degree results down to a brief summary after I completed my Masters. No point at all including LC results.

eviltimeban

If she's in her 40s, I don't see how what she got in French in 1990 has any relevance to the world today.

Baron Kurtz

valoren wrote: »

I got a bronze medal in the egg and spoon race during the sports day in June 1986. Definitely CV worthy.

You also never mentioned that they rescinded the award as you were a big cheater. The video evidence showed you in fact had your big thumb on the spud in the final third of the race!

wakka12

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

I turned down a nearly 100k job simply because the HR girl insisted that, even though they were headhunting me, I provide them with my LC results or they couldn't process me into the system. Any company that has those sorts of red tape simply isn't an environment I wanted to be involved with.

Unless youre offered a lot of 100K jobs then thats stupid of you