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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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Gamebred

pastorbarrett wrote: »

I think most will concede that Conor's best chance is likely early on. Fourth round stats only matter if you make it there. I personally think there are two distortions or untruths being flouted in respect of this potential matchup:

1: That Conor's cardio is terrible. His conditioning might not be the best of the best/ is genetically more given to fast twitch/ explosive movements etc, but the Mayweather fight is a misrepresentation of it.

2: That Tony's chin is problematic. I'd say Tony's chin is better than good.

I think these variables are what makes this fight such an exciting match-up.

I'd agree with this but Conor has himself admitted he has some sort of cardio problem so its not just the fans claiming hes a suspect gas tank, everyone is going to be tired 15 and 20 minutes into a fight but he does look like hes ran 20 miles after a solid 8 or 9 minutes of fighting.

billybonkers

Why does Conor hold his child like this all the time? It's very unusual

pastorbarrett

I think most will concede that Conor's best chance is likely early on. Fourth round stats only matter if you make it there. I personally think there are two distortions or untruths being flouted in respect of this potential matchup:

1: That Conor's cardio is terrible. His conditioning might not be the best of the best/ is genetically more given to fast twitch/ explosive movements etc, but the Mayweather fight is a misrepresentation of it.

2: That Tony's chin is problematic. I'd say Tony's chin is better than good.

I think these variables are what makes this fight such an exciting match-up.

Gamebred

Mellor wrote: »

Tony has been in Rd 4 once in 14 UFC fights.
Conor has been in Rd 4 once in 10 UFC fights.

Tony landing 40 out of 83 (48%)
Conor landed 46 out of 76 (60%)

Tony threw a bit more, Conor landed a bit more. Conor had higher accuracy.
Overall there's not much to suggest that Conor will be swamped by Tony's pace

Stats dont tell the full story and you know it Mellor, Ferguson is on another planet cardio wise.

Mellor

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Conor said himself after the Flyod fight that he has problems with cardio and he doesn't;t know why, No way does he want Tony, Ferguson will not be out away and in round 4/5 only gets going ,

Tony has been in Rd 4 once in 14 UFC fights.
Conor has been in Rd 4 once in 10 UFC fights.

Tony landing 40 out of 83 (48%)
Conor landed 46 out of 76 (60%)

Tony threw a bit more, Conor landed a bit more. Conor had higher accuracy.
Overall there's not much to suggest that Conor will be swamped by Tony's pace

Useful.Idiot

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Conor said himself after the Flyod fight that he has problems with cardio and he doesn't;t know why, No way does he want Tony, Ferguson will not be out away and in round 4/5 only gets going ,

Well to be fair no one was going to step into their first ever pro boxing bout with the endurance to go 12 three minute rounds with one of the best ever. Boxing conditioning and MMA conditioning are very different.

Tony would absolutely have the advantage in the later rounds but Conor has proven he can stay active over most of 5 rounds. I seriously seriously doubt his or Tony's cardio levels will factor in to whether he wants that fight or not.

yourdeadwright

Conor said himself after the Flyod fight that he has problems with cardio and he doesn't;t know why, No way does he want Tony, Ferguson will not be out away and in round 4/5 only gets going ,

ricero

Rumours hes in talk with paulie for a return to boxing. If true then perhaps he does fear tony

Autecher

Sofiztikated wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaN73KpDmHZ/?hl=en&taken-by=tonyfergusonxt

To be fair, that's pretty good.

Thanks for linking that. I laughed my ass off!

Zero-Cool

Al jumping in on the action :pac:

https://twitter.com/IAQUINTAREALTY/status/919047882652622849

thewheel2.0

Lukker- wrote: »

Looks like it is a call out. Imo McGregor was alluding to the fact that Tony repeatedly says Conor never says his name. (I don't think he mentioned Eddie's name once before 205 was announced)

Feel thick for not getting that aspect of it. As Ariel says you can clearly tell he watches everything. His sh!t talk is often well researched.

Sofiztikated

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaN73KpDmHZ/?hl=en&taken-by=tonyfergusonxt

To be fair, that's pretty good.

Zero-Cool

https://twitter.com/madness_mma/status/918989650676539392

how.gareth

Lukker- wrote: »

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/918872736310681600

Looks like it is a call out. Imo McGregor was alluding to the fact that Tony repeatedly says Conor never says his name. (I don't think he mentioned Eddie's name once before 205 was announced)

Woo hoo!! Best news ever, lads that fight will be the fight to end all fights. I know stepping up to fight Eddie was big at the time but for me with hindsight Conor’s a bigger lightweight than Eddie and it was far too easy on the night for Conor, Tony is pretty much the same height and reach and has plenty of skills, think it could get proper messy with each of them winning rounds and going the distance, might see some of Conor’s ground game and hopefully be pleasantly surprised but I’ll enjoy the build up and the fight far more than the boxing stuff which was fairly tedious after a while

GerryDerpy

Would be deadly if that fight is on end of December!

I’d have Conor as solid favourite. I think it would be similar to the Alvarez fight - Conor landing accurate counters and dropping Tony, but Tony is tough and will get up 2/3 times, with Conor not finding an easy way to finish him on the deck, but the 4th knockdown will be too much and he will not have the senses to defend ground & pound, Conor victory mid-late round 2. If it goes to round 3 Conor will fade and Tony will have confidence.

I just don’t see the path to victory for Tony - he will fail to take Conor down (like Diaz + Eddie), and won’t be able to hurt him with punches. Floyd Mayweather couldn’t daze Conor and he was able to throw his best shots again and again.

Useful.Idiot

Lukker- wrote: »

Looks like it is a call out. Imo McGregor was alluding to the fact that Tony repeatedly says Conor never says his name. (I don't think he mentioned Eddie's name once before 205 was announced)

That's exactly what it is

Lukker-

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/918872736310681600

Looks like it is a call out. Imo McGregor was alluding to the fact that Tony repeatedly says Conor never says his name. (I don't think he mentioned Eddie's name once before 205 was announced)

Lukker-

ricero wrote: »

Time for mcnugget and all his fanboys to get humbled by the hands of el cucuy

sPoken lIke tOny fErgUson

ricero

Time for mcnugget and all his fanboys to get humbled by the hands of el cucuy

Frank Bullitt

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Tony Montana reference or he's coming for Tony... Goddamn I hope it's the latter!!

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/918871919293882369

Fairly accurate on the belly.

Zero-Cool

Tony Montana reference or he's coming for Tony... Goddamn I hope it's the latter!!

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/918871919293882369

Sofiztikated

Convenient that the WWE wrestling rumour is gathering steam, and the UFC figures come in terrible.

"Lads, youse need PPV, give me shares, or I'll spend 6 months making dollar for them."

sc86

120k buys?
good jesus thats awfull

ufc is defo on a downward trend this year

Lukker-

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

214 was estimated 860k

Yeah I saw that, but I dunno how accurate that number was because it seemed to stem from the figure that 860k people watched the prelims

xtal191

Lukker- wrote: »

I'd be shocked if 214 didn't do 500k at least seeing as Jones/Cormier 1 did 800k

UFC 215 did 100k supposedly

Yep getting my cards mixed up

Useful.Idiot

214 was estimated 860k

Lukker-

xtal191 wrote: »

Wouldnt be surprised if 214, 215 and 216 did less than 500k combined

I'd be shocked if 214 didn't do 500k at least seeing as Jones/Cormier 1 did 800k

UFC 215 did 100k supposedly

xtal191

Lukker- wrote: »

UFC 216 did 120k buys according to Meltzer. I hope the Ferguson fight happens, I just don't think the UFC is serious about it. If Conor only has a couple of fights left they want them to be superfights, not against some guy who can barely break 100k on his own.

Wouldnt be surprised if 214, 215 and 216 did less than 500k combined

Lukker-

UFC 216 did 120k buys according to Meltzer. I hope the Ferguson fight happens, I just don't think the UFC is serious about it. If Conor only has a couple of fights left they want them to be superfights, not against some guy who can barely break 100k on his own.

Lukker-

Mellor wrote: »

It's not just his fundamentals in a boxing match. MMA still has its own striking fundamentals. Nate's (and Nick's) aren't good imo. Head movement, footwork, checking kicks. His defense amounts to taking a high output to swarm the opponent, and the ability to take a shot. The Homer Simpson defense. Sure it's effective at times, but it's not "good striking".

His head movement ain't there, but he's got a good understanding of range. Disagree re footwork too, he cuts people off pretty well. He is reliant on high output and setting a pace, but that's how a good deal of boxing bouts are decided.