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Harvey Weinstein and #MeToo/sexual misconduct scandals

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No thread on this here. Thought it would be relevant in the film board. There's a thread on After Hours but I'm not going near that place.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

Is this just something that's par for the course within the film industry? Is this the next Saville case (not Weinstein specifically) whereby everyone knew about it but did nothing just because it was just the way things were/are? Is there more to come from this?

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pixelburp

Yeah, the only surprise in all this is that there IS any surprise; given all the recent discussion of representation, racism, sexism etc. in Hollywood, it was obvious reading between the lines that much of the more sordid goings on was indeed still going on. It was only a matter of time before a big name was outed and the dam burst.

No more than the Jimmy Saville situation on this side of the pond, one thing that's also going to cause a lot of awkward questions and ruin careers will be the questions directed towards those who KNEW, yet never spoke up or did anything. Those (predominantly male) people who either knew, heard or saw these things going on and just said 'welp, that's Hollywood'. The victims should never be blamed for feeling they should stay silent, but those who were on the sidelines are pretty close to being as culpable as Weinstin in my eyes.

Unlike the Saville case though, Hollywood is a remorseless, insular & incestuous entity, and I suspect the outcome in all this won't be a proper investigation, but a circling of wagons while a sacrificial lamb is thrown to the media to appease everyone.

JP Liz V1

Deleted User wrote: »

Rose McGowan's anger, while justified is a little hard to take seriously given that she had no problem starring in a film directed by convicted child abuser Victor Salva in 2011.

It's awful what happened her and others and I imagine much worse will come out, but Hollywood will continue to protect its own. It's a place where no one cares what awful things you do as long as you make money. The allegations against Casey Affleck, largely ignored as he's on a roll.

Jessica Chastain and Brie Larson are about the only two actually standing up for victims but even then they are largely ignored. As Corey Feldman says, if he was to name his abusers he'd be facing a massive lawsuit and spend years tied up defending himself as t would be a he said, they said situation.

Did McGowan receive a settlement out of court from Weinstein?

Also did Casey Affleck also settle his case out of court too?

Whomever is hosting next year's Oscars wonder will some jokes be made about it

Some sick reading, vile pig

Tony EH

p to the e wrote: »

As I said before, I doubt it's limited to just Hollywood.

Oh, I have no doubt whatsoever that it's not limited to Hollywood. This kind of "winner" takes all mentality is rife in that kind of uber rich/powerful sphere, be it Hollywood, business or politics. These sociopaths, literally, think that they are untouchable, that they can do anything they want to "little" people, and they can buy everybody off...which it seems Weinstein was actually able to do for decades, apparently.

Brief_Lives

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Tony EH wrote: »

I must be the only who isn't shocked by this. People think the "casting couch" is a thing of the past. But it really isn't. TBH, I reckon there's many more who abuse their position in such a manner.

Hollywood is a deep, deep, cesspool.

As I said before, I doubt it's limited to just Hollywood.

As an aside, one of Weinstein's recent pushes was Cork's Sarah Greene. Has she made any statement?

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Rose McGowan's anger, while justified is a little hard to take seriously given that she had no problem starring in a film directed by convicted child abuser Victor Salva in 2011.

It's awful what happened her and others and I imagine much worse will come out, but Hollywood will continue to protect its own. It's a place where no one cares what awful things you do as long as you make money. The allegations against Casey Affleck, largely ignored as he's on a roll.

Jessica Chastain and Brie Larson are about the only two actually standing up for victims but even then they are largely ignored. As Corey Feldman says, if he was to name his abusers he'd be facing a massive lawsuit and spend years tied up defending himself as t would be a he said, they said situation.

Brief_Lives

todays reading contains some stomach churning stuff...

https://twitter.com/terrycrews

Ben Affleck, whose career began when he and Matt Damon made Miramax’s Good Will Hunting in 1997, has released a statement addressing news of over a dozen allegations of sexual harassment and assault by former Weinstein Company boss Harvey Weinstein. “I am saddened and angry that a man who I worked with used his position of power to intimidate, sexually harass and manipulate many women over decades,” he wrote. “The additional allegations of assault that I read this morning made me sick.”

rose mcgowan‏Verified account @rosemcgowan

@benaffleck “GODDAMNIT! I TOLD HIM TO STOP DOING THAT” you said that to my face. The press conf I was made to go to after assault. You lie.

darkdubh

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH it took about 20 - 30 years for all of the allegations against Jimmy Saville to fully come to light.

Longer, more like 50 years and more.

Tony EH

I must be the only who isn't shocked by this. People think the "casting couch" is a thing of the past. But it really isn't. TBH, I reckon there's many more who abuse their position in such a manner.

Hollywood is a deep, deep, cesspool.

4068ac1elhodqr

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH it took about 20 - 30 years for all of the allegations against Jimmy Saville to fully come to light.

Think 'Icke' was publishing stuff on that fella for decades, Heath also mentioned, whom randomly appeared beside Jimmy on one of his 'fix it' tv shows. Back then it was all quickly regarded as 'tin-foil hat'.

Meanwhile, Sloth Weinstein is boarding a private jet Tuesday night, bound for a 'rehab' in Europe.

johnny_ultimate

Before he was fired, Harvey Weinstein asked film insiders to defend him - whar a ****ing miserable mail this is:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/business/media/before-firing-harvey-weinstein-asked-film-insiders-to-defend-him.html

pinkypinky

NYT now reporting that Gwyneth Paltrow and Angelina Jolie have also revealed Weinstein harassed them.

It's absolutely revolting and I'm sure there's more to come. I only got half way through Ronan Farrow's expose and had to give up.
The worst of it is, his board and company must have known about this for years. He's only been fired because he's been caught.

Rjd2

Heather Graham accusing Weinstein now.

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/917855822587207680/photo/1

The Black Oil

I read all of the piece and just heard the audio of the police tape played on the BBC. Chilling.

johnny_ultimate

Series of even more serious sexual assault allegations made in a New Yorker piece by Ronan Farrow today, including from Asia Argento: https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-aggressive-overtures-to-sexual-assault-harvey-weinsteins-accusers-tell-their-stories?mbid=social_twitter Some stomach churning claims and revelations in it.

Also contains audio of one encounter, and significantly deepens and complicates many of the allegations made against him (including his own apparent claims of 'planting' media stories).

Four actresses, including Mira Sorvino and Rosanna Arquette, told me they suspected that, after they rejected Weinstein’s advances or complained about them to company representatives, Weinstein had them removed from projects or dissuaded people from hiring them.

Brief_Lives

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Had to laugh at Trump's comment.

You just know Trump will probably make him Secretary for Global Women's Issues...

AustinLostin

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The women of Hollywood were very quick to rightfully and loudly come out and condemn Trump but their silence on this issue is very sad and hurtful and harmful to women.

Yes the women are at fault here.

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HandsomeBob wrote: »

From what I've read in the run up to her resigning, staying on would have been career suicide. Unbelievable pressure on her even without further stuff to come about Weinstein.

Also from what I've read there's a couple of reasons including disagreements of how she was handling the allegations to her mother being a famed women's rights lawyer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/business/lisa-bloom-weinstein-attorney.html

Harry Palmr

Had to laugh at Trump's comment.

super_furry

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Why aren't the women of Hollywood right now out on the streets protesting and saying stop and outing others as there is others.

Or you know, maybe it takes someone to ask them a question before they can actually answer it. Like Meryl Streep today.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The women of Hollywood were very quick to rightfully and loudly come out and condemn Trump but their silence on this issue is very sad and hurtful and harmful to women.

Are they the same women? Or are you painting them all with the same brush?

HandsomeBob

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Weinstein's attorney left him high and dry yesterday so there's probably even worse stories to come out.

From what I've read in the run up to her resigning, staying on would have been career suicide. Unbelievable pressure on her even without further stuff to come about Weinstein.

Beechwoodspark

Weinstein's attorney left him high and dry yesterday so there's probably even worse stories to come out.

Hector Savage

I remember talking to a girl in the USA that was trying to break into the movie industry - as a writer.
She told me the *only* way to succeed was to sleep with execs, she was in tears as she wasn't willing to go down that route.

p to the e

Just to show stuff like this is closer to home than you think.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-40673389

Agent Coulson

Amalgam wrote: »

..because those women want to keep working, one person, the name escapes me, started off on Weinstein a decade ago and she's been stuck doing bit parts and indie, even though she had been tipped for bigger things.

You'll get blacklisted by the 'entire' industry. You'll never see the naked mechanism of that out in the open though..

That was Rose Mcgovern I think

Of course that played huge and scarily understandable part over the years wanting to be able to keep working in the industry they dreamed all their life to work in.

I'm talking about this week and today and right now where are they it's still only the same handful of women that have been talking about it for years talking now.

Why aren't the women of Hollywood right now out on the streets protesting and saying stop and outing others as there is others.

HandsomeBob

I don't think there's a low enough depth for how ugly this might get. In particular for those who may have taken hush money or allowed themselves to be bribed with plumb opportunities while allowing Weinstein to continue his deviant ways.

It's always awful to see people you respected or who were revered unmasked for what they truly are.

Hopefully this is just the beginning and the likes of Rose McGowan and Corey Haim will have justice done in their name.

Amalgam

Agent Coulson wrote: »

The women of Hollywood were very quick to rightfully and loudly come out and condemn Trump but their silence on this issue is very sad and hurtful and harmful to women.

..because those women want to keep working, one person, the name escapes me, started off on Weinstein a decade ago and she's been stuck doing bit parts and indie, even though she had been tipped for bigger things.

You'll get blacklisted by the 'entire' industry. You'll never see the naked mechanism of that out in the open though..

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youngblood wrote: »

How has this taken so long to come out is my question!?!

TBH it took about 20 - 30 years for all of the allegations against Jimmy Saville to fully come to light.

Four Winds

conorhal wrote: »

The stories he does tell however paint a picture of Weinstein as a sociopathic, manipulative, hyper-agressive bully with an explosive temper who reacts like a five year old when called out, with complete denial, even when caught with his hand still in the cookie jar.
He seemed to take a particular pleasure in humiliating people and controlling them and women weren't excepted from that.

Sounds like Entourage were on the money with this guy's character who was called 'Harvey Weingard' in the show.