Why is it normal/OK to be obese in Ireland?.

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Unearthly

I think when it comes to exercise you need to find something you enjoy otherwise you'll give up after a few weeks. I love cycling, football and walks. Never joined a gym in my life but i don't need to. Other people prefer setting targets and having apps track their progress, whatever works.

Definitely think cycling to work needs to be considered more by people, it makes the excuse of not having time to exercise on a workday redundant

Electric Sheep

Unearthly wrote: »

I think when it comes to exercise you need to find something you enjoy otherwise you'll give up after a few weeks. I love cycling, football and walks. Never joined a gym in my life but i don't need to. Other people prefer setting targets and having apps track their progress, whatever works.

Definitely think cycling to work needs to be considered more by people, it makes the excuse of not having time to exercise on a workday redundant

I've never needed to lose weight in my life, but I recently got a Fitbit, and find it wonderfully motivating. I have gone from an average of about 9000 steps a day to an average of 16000. It also reminds me to move for a little while every hour.

Unearthly

Electric Sheep wrote: »

I've never needed to lose weight in my life, but I recently got a Fitbit, and find it wonderfully motivating. I have gone from an average of about 9000 steps a day to an average of 16000. It also reminds me to move for a little while every hour.

Yes anyone I've seen with them seem to enjoy it and brings out the competitiveness in people

meeeeh

Permabear wrote: »

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People with kids can also miss more work, pregnant women, people with chronic illness, mental health problems, smokers, excessive drinkers...

Anyway obesity is much more prevalent in deprived areas. Punishing people on medical cards with higher private health cost won't have much effect. Neither will charging for two seats in a plane once per year. Sugar tax, more effective regulation of processed food production, limited advertising, teaching people to cook and similar would be more effective measures. I was joking about banning alcohol but decreasing alcohol consumption would also help. Most people who are overweight know they are overweight. Extra fat doesn't suddenly make you stupid so providing proper information on packaging, regulation of "nutritionist" nonsense every gym bunny with a three day course seems to peddle, proper p.e. in schools, encouraging active lifestyle and so on will help. Sugar tax could work because it signals to people certain food or drink is unhealthy.

Electric Sheep

Unearthly wrote: »

Yes anyone I've seen with them seem to enjoy it and brings out the competitiveness in people

The funny thing is that you are competing with yourself, not other people! But it works:)

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Bigbagofcans

BarryD2 wrote: »

Where are all these obese people in Ireland? Genuinely when I'm out and about, I see people of various sizes but rarely people that are very obviously overweight.

That's because many of us have normalised obesity.
People think the term obese means someone who is the size of a house but really a lot of people who think they're 'just' overweight are clinically obese.

In a study, more than a third (36%) of UK adults thought they were simply overweight when they were actually clinically obese.

Bigbagofcans wrote: »

That's because many of us have normalised obesity.
People think the term obese means someone who is the size of a house but really a lot of people who think they're 'just' overweight are clinically obese.

In a study, more than a third (36%) of UK adults thought they were simply overweight when they were actually clinically obese.

This isn't the UK last time there was a rebellion checked

end of the road

Permabear wrote: »

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i suspect they are deluded, or naive as there is no evidence to prove the belief to be accurate. realistically as i said, this issue is not an issue that can be penalised away.

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there is no evidence that Higher insurance costs help to curb obesity. it may be believed that it can but i suspect that is wishful thinking.
higher costs for cigarettes quite possibly mostly sent people to the black market, it's effects in curbing smoking are rather small.

Permabear wrote: »

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we know all this, but such is for the most part frowned upon by government and it must stay that way.

Bigbagofcans

uch wrote: »

This isn't the UK last time there was a rebellion checked

I'd reckon the percentage of people in denial of their obesity would be similar if a study was done here.

Would it be fairer to say it is normal/ok to be unhealthy in Ireland?

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beauf

Bigbagofcans wrote: »

... In a study, more than a third (36%) of UK adults thought they were simply overweight when they were actually clinically obese.. .

... People here want to sack and marginalise 36% of people...

beauf

TotalReality wrote: »

Would it be fairer to say it is normal/ok to be unhealthy in Ireland?

Unhealthy life styles and diets are common. That would be a more rational starting point alright.

beauf wrote: »

Unhealthy life styles and diets are common. That would be a more rational starting point alright.

And less insulting to overweight people who cant help being overweight for whatever reasons.

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_Brian

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I think a better question is "Why are people obsessed with other people's appearance?"

I'm fairness this isn't just about appearance.

Seriously overweight and obese people will be clogging up hospitals in a few years as their bodies collapse under the stress of their self inflicted conditions.

Currently smoking is tue No1 reason people are in hospital, in time that will change for conditions related to being overweight.

Why in the name of any God would any man not adore a Lady with a 36DD bust and a 34" waist, heaven to me, not everybody loves blades of straw you know

Irish_rat

Feckoffcup wrote: »

Either you go to the gym or you're overweight. That's the way the majority of Irish women. It's rare to see someone who doesn't work out and have a flat tummy especially over 30.

Absolutely bullocks, it's what you eat plain and simple. I could lose a stone in 6/7 weeks by adjusting my food intake. You don't need to exercise to lose weight but I'd recommend it to look and feel good.

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uch wrote: »

Why in the name of any God would any man not adore a Lady with a 36DD bust and a 34" waist, heaven to me, not everybody loves blades of straw you know

And there's absolutely nothing nice about insulting thin women like you just did either!

Permabear wrote: »

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Breast size isn't a great measurement of weight, though. While I'm certainly overweight at a UK size 14, I was an F cup when I was a size 22, and a H cup with a far smaller back now I'm a 14.

My sister is a size 8, and is actually underweight according to her bmi, with D cups.

Some women simply have bigger boobs.

The fact that chain high street shops like Penney's now go up to a size 20 is indicative of the higher demand for larger sizes, though.

Penny Tration wrote: »

And there's absolutely nothing nice about insulting thin women like you just did either!

Did not, read it again, I said not everybody, that normally means, not everybody, where's the insult ?

uch wrote: »

Did not, read it again, I said not everybody, that normally means, not everybody, where's the insult ?

Calling thin women "blades of grass" isn't very nice.

uch wrote: »

Why in the name of any God would any man not adore a Lady with a 36DD bust and a 34" waist, heaven to me, not everybody loves blades of straw you know

Here.

oh right, I should have been politically correct and said a lot of people like curvy women and not skinny fukcers, yea I get it now

uch wrote: »

oh right, I should have been politically correct and said a lot of people like curvy women and not skinny fukcers, yea I get it now

And again.No need for it.

TotalReality wrote: »

And again.No need for it.

Ah go way out of that, I gave an opinion, it's like an arsé you know, we all have one