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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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sc86

gsp is 36 years of age and has not fought in 4 years
its not a man in his prime
its just another money fight which kinda proves my point

ricero

Dont think he has reached his ceiling yet. If gsp gets the win over bisping then mcgregor v gsp will be huge

Ultimate Seduction

mdwexford wrote:

The Mendes fight will always be my highlight I'd say.

The most exciting sporting event of my life. Will never forget that night. Just got the goosebumps thinking about it. An I was only watching it on tv. Imagine being there

Ultimate Seduction

sc86 wrote:

anybody else think the buzz around mcgregor has peaked for mma fans?

Yep. Definitely from me anyway. Only way he could top the Alvarez fight is by going for Woodley at 170, a big ask I know, but getting bored of him and the "money mcgregor" persona now.

Very quite on social media lately too.

mdwexford

sc86 wrote: »

anybody else think the buzz around mcgregor has peaked for mma fans?

the interest to see how far he could rise in the ufc can go no further than the alvarez night for me
from here it looks like the rest of his days will be just money fights again the biggest name
defending belts and next in line challengers is second
his rise was built on the nobody that became somebody and tore up the roster as the underdog
now its just money money money , hype , bull**** fights and doing what he wants as hes the big draw
for sure he will still be the biggest draw but will there ever be nights like the mendes fight again?
i cant see it - sure so what if he beats diaz again?

I'd agree to a certain degree.

I'll still be mad excited for his fights and cheering him on but the constant money talk and photos of boats is mundane.

The Mendes fight will always be my highlight I'd say.

sc86

anybody else think the buzz around mcgregor has peaked for mma fans?

the interest to see how far he could rise in the ufc can go no further than the alvarez night for me
from here it looks like the rest of his days will be just money fights again the biggest name
defending belts and next in line challengers is second
his rise was built on the nobody that became somebody and tore up the roster as the underdog
now its just money money money , hype , bull**** fights and doing what he wants as hes the big draw
will there ever be nights like the mendes fight again ?
i cant see it - sure so what if he beats diaz again?
this whole thing is turning me off the ufc and friends who have watched it for a long time are saying same

Mellor

We were never told he'd do Cromer after the double. It's just not an option (licensing, curfew). Ironically, he'd probably could have done it had he lost to Mendes.

Aldo will go down as a legend of the sport. But he was never star or a draw. The burden of a lighter division. A few years ago people looked at 145 in sane light as 135 now. Progress is slow.

I wouldn't expect any announcement of Conor next fight until after 216

Subcomandante Marcos

BTW, Don't take JK saying 219 is "off the cards" as gospel.

It's 92 days until December 30th, still plenty of time for Conor and Nate to squeeze as much as they can out of WME-IMG before they announce the headline bout for their end of year event.

Subcomandante Marcos

Fromvert wrote: »

I think if McGregor in Croker is to happen it will only happen on his way out of the sport now, a swan song event for him.

Conor won't be fighting in Ireland again unless it's a goodbye fight when he's at the tail end of a few losses. As long as he's competitive and a "name" he's fighting in Vegas or MSG. I don't think he'll ever fight outside of those two venues again.

Tigger wrote: »

and if he does fighn Diaz i hope its at 155. hes gonna start getting small if he moves uo to 170.

Why would it happen at anything other than 155? The only reason the first fight happened at 170 was because when they called Nate he was in Baja Cali on a boat eating Tacos and drinking Tequila 10 days before the fight so he asked for a 160 catch weight so he could actually spar for a week before cutting.

The only reason the second fight was at 170 was so conor and the UFC could keep selling the Nate Diaz is a 500lb monster lie.

Nate is a 155lb fighter. His entire career he has fought at 155 besides the odd excursion to 170 during eras when the UFC were being dickheads and not booking him at his prefered weight.

Why would a third fight with Nate happen at anything other than 155?

hewhoscares

For Croke Park to happen, he'd need to be free of the UFC and getting a Floyd style split of the PPV and it to be PPV in England and Ireland. Whether it could be PPV in the US at breakfast im unsure (though most likely, but it would mean losing out on a huge amount of $60 buys).

Working on the basis that his last UFC/MMA cheque was around $20m - he could make that with UK and Eire PPV and a huge gate.

Someone like Joe Duffy would have been a possibility when he was a free agent recently. Avenge the L angle to sell it, he isnt a total can.

Fromvert

As Helwani has said McGregor/Diaz on Paddy's day in New York is not a goer. Both the Knicks and the Nets are playing at home that day.

I think if McGregor in Croker is to happen it will only happen on his way out of the sport now, a swan song event for him.
- Too much tax to pay
- Not getting the US PPV audiences if you go with a local start time, would probably still out sell most other PPVs but wouldn't get his 1m+ buys
- You go for a US PPV start and you get the locals to allow it you run into the first problem ..... too much tax to pay

Tigger

and if he does fighn Diaz i hope its at 155. hes gonna start getting small if he moves uo to 170.

Tigger

ive been following Conor since befor his first cage warriors belt and while hes changed a lot in how he projects himself ive always felt happy for him but did we not get told that he'd do Croker if he gotvthe double belt. Joe Rogan said hed have the power tondonwhatever he wanted if he did the double and he clearly has. he got to fight a mental money exhibition match against a hero of his in a sport he dosent even partake in. i am well aware that croker has a night time rule and that if the fight ended at 12 that its only dinner time in vegas but would people not still buy to watch?

i know its dreamng but he said it and we laughed when he said he'd beat aldo or win a second belt or fight floyd and he did it. i mean as long as floyd didnt leave him dead or damqged i was happy but there was alway that suspicion that he could even have a hope.

So why is MSG on paddy days all we can hope for why not Croker
Does anyone hold out hope that August next year he could headline the biggest attendance ever.?

mdwexford

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

In 10 years Also will be better remembered as a sporting legend than Ronda, Conor or others. His records dwarf's them all.

Conor will be lucky to defend a belt once, Never mind over 10 years.

Aldo's highlight in 10 years time will be of him getting sparked in 13 seconds.

Conor's achievements already dwarf Jose's and he's still only 29.

Nobody cares about defences, just ask Mighty Mouse.

Ultimate Seduction

Aldo isn't, and never was a big draw, which is what was originally suggested! No casual would have ever heard of him only for McGregor!

How's that December 30th card looking now Marcus?

Subcomandante Marcos

Tazzimus wrote: »

Famous as Ronda supposedly is, people still spell her name wrong all the time :P

Brock is famous because of WWE.

Aldo is a legend of the sport, different kind of "big name"
Guarantee you in 10 years he'll be remembered quicker than Brock or Ronda

In 10 years Also will be better remembered as a sporting legend than Ronda, Conor or others. His records dwarf's them all.

Conor will be lucky to defend a belt once, Never mind over 10 years.

Tazzimus

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

He wasn't a big name outside of mma fans, don't even try say he was. Not in the same breath as Brock lesnar and Rhonda!! The man doesn't even speak English!

Famous as Ronda supposedly is, people still spell her name wrong all the time :P

Brock is famous because of WWE.

Aldo is a legend of the sport, different kind of "big name"
Guarantee you in 10 years he'll be remembered quicker than Brock or Ronda

Ultimate Seduction

Ash.J.Williams wrote:

That's pure martial arts you're talking about. No money in that and that's what it's all about now.

That's what got the ufc to where it is now tho. Proper contenders making there way up the rankings and getting tittle shots. It's going down the same road as boxing now with fighters avoiding eachother and looking for the easy defences.

Ultimate Seduction

Tazzimus wrote:

I do hope that's a wind up..

He wasn't a big name outside of mma fans, don't even try say he was. Not in the same breath as Brock lesnar and Rhonda!! The man doesn't even speak English!

Ash.J.Williams

billybonkers wrote: »

Boom_Bap wrote: »

That's just what JK has expressed he would like. He also has said that he has less than 1% of influence on these matters.

I meant leave it a year or so, defend the belt a couple times, then have the trilogy

That's pure martial arts you're talking about. No money in that and that's what it's all about now.

sc86

the ufc is a mess if this goes ahead
why bother with belts or rankings

Tazzimus

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Come on, as deadly as Aldo was, he was never a big name and shouldn't be mentioned alongside Jones, Rhondo or Brock.

I do hope that's a wind up..

Boom_Bap

Probably true, McGregor probably made him a bit of a name when he leapt out of the octagon and ran over to him in the crowd.

Ultimate Seduction

Boom_Bap wrote:

Jones, Rhonda, Lesner, Aldo (not gone, but slipping) probably a few others. Some big draws are not available at the moment, some weight classes have no competition that creates a buzz. UFC need something.

Come on, as deadly as Aldo was, he was never a big name and shouldn't be mentioned alongside Jones, Rhondo or Brock.

Boom_Bap

also, big names are dropping like flys from the UFC.

Jones, Rhonda, Lesner, Aldo (not gone, but slipping) probably a few others.
Some big draws are not available at the moment, some weight classes have no competition that creates a buzz. UFC need something.

Useful.Idiot

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Why would the ufc need Diaz back? He was fighting on free tv cards before Conor. Never headliner, never held a belt.

None of that matters. He's a headlining name now after the two fights with Conor. Conor was fighting on free tv cards too before. Things have changed.

Ultimate Seduction

Why would the ufc need Diaz back? He was fighting on free tv cards before Conor. Never headliner, never held a belt.

Boom_Bap

I can see the reasoning for wanting it now, any longer and it's just always going to be hanging over his head.
Plus, I think that the UFC need Nate back in the octagon and this is the only fight that will bring him back...unless he gets a title shot for mad money. It's the only fight that will get him back without the UFC having to ask him.
The only other fight there for Conor is Ferguson.

Ultimate Seduction

billybonkers wrote:

I meant leave it a year or so, defend the belt a couple times, then have the trilogy

My opinion too. Would actually be gone off Conor if he fights Diaz again so soon. Didn't agree with Diaz 2 either but got over it.

Became a fan because he was fighting against the odds (Not literally) And making history getting belts. Now it's just plain an simple money grabbing. Fair play to him an all that, but it does sicken me.

billybonkers

Boom_Bap wrote: »

That's just what JK has expressed he would like. He also has said that he has less than 1% of influence on these matters.

I meant leave it a year or so, defend the belt a couple times, then have the trilogy