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Second Captains

ballsymchugh

Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Cheers,
wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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Pter wrote: »

Enjoyed Kens latest political podcast. Good food for thought!

I enjoyed it as well. Some interesting points and well balanced. It is starting to improve I feel, and is moving on from Ken just glibly dismissing people with opposing viewpoints without giving them a right of reply.

Still waiting for a hard hitting political pod on, for example, Islamic terrorists or the Black Lives Matter movement in the US.

Raoul

The podcast today was excellent!

Loafing Oaf

"Dejan Lovren has had some issues in his personal life"

Apparently not involving the player having an extra-marital affair. No doubt much to the regret of the tabloids, as I bet they've had the headline 'DEJAN LOVE-RAT!' lined up for years...

tomwaits48

Beersmith wrote: »

The report on sport was top notch today. Kens holiday tale was good as well. Was freaking out that no one questioned Ken about his trip at the start. Would have liked to know why he was there etc

Ken with another dig at murph not paying his dues about kens face

excellent Pod indeed. there's great natural banter between the lads, the total opposite to the forced OTB Kilbane/Molloy dynamic.

Pete Moss

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote:

Dunphy has challenged Ken to a soccer debate

Sounds like we're finally getting that shark vs tiger fight after all!

Arghus

I've said it before elsewhere, but Dunphy is like a different better man entirely on his pod. I'd love to hear the two of them go at it.

OldMrBrennan83

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dr.kenneth noisewater

Ol' Donie wrote:

What? On today's pod?

Sorry wont let me post the link on mobile but seen Dunphy said it on 2fm

foxtrot101

https://twitter.com/SecondCaptains/status/912423343084703746

.

Ol' Donie

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Dunphy has challenged Ken to a soccer debate

What? On today's pod?

Say Your Number

Will Gilesy be present?

I would happily pay at least a tenner to hear that.

Baggly

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote:

Dunphy has challenged Ken to a soccer debate

Cogent-bowl

dr.kenneth noisewater

Dunphy has challenged Ken to a soccer debate

Beersmith

The report on sport was top notch today. Kens holiday tale was good as well. Was freaking out that no one questioned Ken about his trip at the start. Would have liked to know why he was there etc

Ken with another dig at murph not paying his dues about kens face

Pete Moss

Ken quoting JosÃ©: "The only music I understand is when my opponent tells me to go to a place"
Eoin: Go to a place?
Ken: I think he means **** off, Eoin.

I cracked up at this. Top notch interaction.

Hippo

Say Your Number wrote: »

I thought Uncle Jim said something very interesting about the GAA being a niche sport to cover and why you don't see much crossover between GAA and Rugby/Soccer commentators, apart from Darragh Maloney I can't think of any other Soccer/Rugby commentators that have covered GAA, I know Ger Canning does the Costa Rica vs South Korea type World Cup games, apart from that it seems the same the other way round.

Glad Eoin pushed him on it.

From speaking to people with some internal experience of our national broadcaster, it seems that within the sports dept. the GAA section has a very particular house style (e.g. the winning team's score is given first, rather than the home team's) and that any crossover with other sports is discouraged.

Raoul Duke

Say Your Number wrote: »

I thought Uncle Jim said something very interesting about the GAA being a niche sport to cover and why you don't see much crossover between GAA and Rugby/Soccer commentators, apart from Darragh Maloney I can't think of any other Soccer/Rugby commentators that have covered GAA, I know Ger Canning does the Costa Rica vs South Korea type World Cup games, apart from that it seems the same the other way round.

Glad Eoin pushed him on it.

Just be glad that Ger Canning doesn't get to do much more. He is my least favourite soccer commentator by far.

Running Balance

Oh I d say the gaa / rte "mix" sounds like something from the 70's

Say Your Number

I thought Uncle Jim said something very interesting about the GAA being a niche sport to cover and why you don't see much crossover between GAA and Rugby/Soccer commentators, apart from Darragh Maloney I can't think of any other Soccer/Rugby commentators that have covered GAA, I know Ger Canning does the Costa Rica vs South Korea type World Cup games, apart from that it seems the same the other way round.

Glad Eoin pushed him on it.

Gbear

The only thing I'd say about the political podcasts is that they're a bit easy for Ken.

He's happy enough to challenge and be challenged on the sports podcasts but the politics ones seem a bit more like his pet project of the cool book or study he found this week and that'll all lean towards ideas and opinions that Ken already agrees with.

They're still all good listens so far but I think it'd be good to mix it up.

Even if you've got enough evidence to bury a whale with and you have the best of intentions, it's still a good idea to expose yourself to counter-points.

Granted, we had that interesting one with the guy from Russia Today, but while it was good to see a bit more of a combative interview and the undercurrents in the debate were fascinating, I don't know that you can say that the guy getting interviewed is more of the academic persuasion that's arguing in good faith in favour of his work but rather he's operating as the mouthpiece of an organisation and you end up waiting for a slip up or reading the subtext, rather than being able to get much of value from what he's actually saying.

lawred2

Ladies football

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Arghus

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

They have 8,370 subscribers, so working out pretty well..

I listened to interview with Marc Horgan back a few weeks ago and he said that they were hoping to have reached 5000 at this stage, so to have 8000 was great. So it sounded like things were going well, even though he could have been putting a PR spin on it: he was hardly going to bad mouth how things had been going, but it seemed like he meant it genuinely enough.

Arghus

Raisins wrote: »

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

Ya wha? What kind of pubs do you frequent?

It was a very informed and sobering discussion.

WhatsGoingOn2

Cartman78 wrote: »

Anyone have info/stats on how the subscription model is working out for them?

They have 8,370 subscribers, so working out pretty well..

Cartman78

Anyone have info/stats on how the subscription model is working out for them?

Running Balance

+1 on ken's podcast.

Thought it was really interesting - even the wife listened in!!

Pete Moss

Raisins wrote:

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Raisins wrote:

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

I find The Stand with Eamonn Dunphy, who happens to write fluently and think congently for the record, to be more of a ramble or pub chat with an individual on political issues. This was not the case with the latest SC Political Pod, IMO.

Baggly

Raisins wrote: »

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

Well......no?

Like did you not hear their stats, references to academic works and published authors etc?

If so, please let me know which pub you go to......

Raisins

dastardly00 wrote: »

About halfway through it at the moment and I am enjoying it

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

dastardly00

Pter wrote: »

Enjoyed Kens latest political podcast. Good food for thought!

About halfway through it at the moment and I am enjoying it