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Second Captains

ballsymchugh

Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

Cheers,
wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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Arghus

Enough with the volley talk!

Raoul

Arghus wrote: »

Enough with the volley talk!

Ah, it is funny.

I agree with Eoin btw. :pac:

Baggly

Raoul wrote: »

Ah, it is funny.

I agree with Eoin btw. :pac:

But in the previous discussion they had, someone said it had more to do with the trajectory of the ball - whether it was travelling upwards or downwards.

And the definition of a volley is:

vol·ley
ˈvälē/Submit
noun

1.a number of bullets, arrows, or other projectiles discharged at one time.
"the infantry let off a couple of volleys"
synonyms: barrage, cannonade, battery, bombardment, salvo, discharge, fusillade; More
2.
(in sports, especially tennis or soccer) a strike or kick of the ball made before it touches the ground.

verb
1.(in sports, especially tennis or soccer) strike or kick (the ball) before it touches the ground.
"she volleyed the ball home"

So by 2. and 3. above, the ball was hit on a downward trajectory before it hit the ground (again).

Brock Turnpike

Say Your Number wrote: »

I remember Ken saying way back on OTB that when he was 5 he played a game of Gaelic Football and he kicked the ball into his own net and everyone started giving out to him and he's had a negative association to it since, I don't think he hates it, he seems more indifferent towards it.

He said on the Irishmqn Abroad interview that he doesn't like GAA or the culture around it. I actually agree with him to a point.

Baggly

Jesus my username is sh!t.

Pete Moss

Found yesterday's soccer podcast to be a bit limp. It seemed to take a while to actually get into the analysis of the weekend's action, then when they did, the Mourinho talk at the start all felt a bit clichÃ႒Â©d at this stage. In saying that, I don't usually mind when Ken goes on a Mou rant. He Mou rage can be quite funny.

I enjoyed the GAA pod from yesterday though, as well as their coverage of the Championship in general. I think it may have been Oisin or Murph, but I was glad they pulled Brolly and Co for harping on about this idea of splitting up Dublin directly after the team did the three in a row.

foxtrot101

Pete Moss wrote: »

Found yesterday's soccer podcast to be a bit limp. It seemed to take a while to actually get into the analysis of the weekend's action, then when they did, the Mourinho talk at the start all felt a bit clichÃ႒©d at this stage. In saying that, I don't usually mind when Ken goes on a Mou rant. He Mou rage can be quite funny.

"ken's not here today"...click.

Brock Turnpike

Won't be sorry to see the back of the GAA coverage now that the season has ended.

Ol' Donie

I've had the f*ckin Aul Triangle in my head for days now. Starting to grate at this stage.

De screw was from Mayoooo
He said Hey, Galileiooooo

Hehehehe

dastardly00

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I've had the f*ckin Aul Triangle in my head for days now. Starting to grate at this stage.

De screw was from Mayoooo
He said Hey, Galileiooooo

Hehehehe

It could be worse... You could have Craig David featuring Mick McCarthy stuck in your head... it got so bad that I actually saved the song on my Spotify app because I wanted to listen to the actual proper version!

JuanJose

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Won't be sorry to see the back of the GAA coverage now that the season has ended.

The return of rugby coverage won't be floating my boat but takes all sorts, I suppose.

From what I heard of their podcasts over the summer, I think they handled the (ever shorter) soccer off-season quite well.

Cienciano

Arghus wrote: »

Braved the waters of the Paul Galvin interview:

It started off quite well, but things took a nausea inducing turn when Paul referred to Dunnes Stores as a "cultural institution" and started going off about how he prefers to think of himself of a storyteller - one who mainly works through the medium of flogging derivative genseais and onesies and the like, largely, I'd imagine, to misguided mammies on behalf of sons who are glad that someone bought them some clothes, otherwise they'd have to do it themselves.

He talked the talk - he was "conceptual" and saw the purpose of his tales, manifested in fabric, as being one of "elevation" - but the only time when his burring monotone rose with any sincere feeling was when he assured Ritchie that the most important thing about his gear was that it "sells and sells and sells."

You're a hack Galvin! A hack!

Cheers,
I decided to look through the thread to see if it was worth listening to. Deleted it straight away

lawred2

Apart from the football shows and Monday's all sports round up, I'm finding the midweek content drying up a little.. most be difficult producing listenable content daily.

Today's pod was short by second captains standards yet was more than half made up covering Jimmy McGee's passing. Now there's no way they could have planned for that.. so what would the podcast have been without that happening?

The gambling bit was a bore.

Swing and a miss for today's podcast.

dastardly00

lawred2 wrote: »

Today's pod was short by second captains standards yet was more than half made up covering Jimmy McGee's passing. Now there's no way they could have planned for that.. so what would the podcast have been without that happening?

Ken ranting about Klopp and Liverpool losing last night?

dulux99

I must say that football podcast on Monday was terrible. They really phoned it in. It didn't sound like anybody on the show really wanted to be there.

I get that Ken was off but that shouldn't really mean that they all down tools and produce a show roughly half the length of their usual Monday shows!

OldMrBrennan83

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Battery Kinzie

And the football final was on, so they probably saw none of the Sunday soccer games, which were the big 2 of the weekend.

Baggly

Enjoyed Kens latest political podcast. Good food for thought!

dastardly00

Pter wrote: »

Enjoyed Kens latest political podcast. Good food for thought!

About halfway through it at the moment and I am enjoying it

Raisins

dastardly00 wrote: »

About halfway through it at the moment and I am enjoying it

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

Baggly

Raisins wrote: »

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

Well......no?

Like did you not hear their stats, references to academic works and published authors etc?

If so, please let me know which pub you go to......

Pete Moss

Raisins wrote:

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Raisins wrote:

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

I find The Stand with Eamonn Dunphy, who happens to write fluently and think congently for the record, to be more of a ramble or pub chat with an individual on political issues. This was not the case with the latest SC Political Pod, IMO.

Running Balance

+1 on ken's podcast.

Thought it was really interesting - even the wife listened in!!

Cartman78

Anyone have info/stats on how the subscription model is working out for them?

WhatsGoingOn2

Cartman78 wrote: »

Anyone have info/stats on how the subscription model is working out for them?

They have 8,370 subscribers, so working out pretty well..

Arghus

Raisins wrote: »

There was nothing in it that you wouldn't hear in the pub. Usually his political pods a challenge a perspective or give an in depth analysis.

Eoin said previously they avoid discussing referring decisions on the sport pod because all that chat is covered elsewhere and it leads nowhere. This pod was the political equivalent of Robbie savage discussing refereeing decisions for an hour.

Ya wha? What kind of pubs do you frequent?

It was a very informed and sobering discussion.

Arghus

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

They have 8,370 subscribers, so working out pretty well..

I listened to interview with Marc Horgan back a few weeks ago and he said that they were hoping to have reached 5000 at this stage, so to have 8000 was great. So it sounded like things were going well, even though he could have been putting a PR spin on it: he was hardly going to bad mouth how things had been going, but it seemed like he meant it genuinely enough.

lawred2

Ladies football

zzzzzzzz

Gbear

The only thing I'd say about the political podcasts is that they're a bit easy for Ken.

He's happy enough to challenge and be challenged on the sports podcasts but the politics ones seem a bit more like his pet project of the cool book or study he found this week and that'll all lean towards ideas and opinions that Ken already agrees with.

They're still all good listens so far but I think it'd be good to mix it up.

Even if you've got enough evidence to bury a whale with and you have the best of intentions, it's still a good idea to expose yourself to counter-points.

Granted, we had that interesting one with the guy from Russia Today, but while it was good to see a bit more of a combative interview and the undercurrents in the debate were fascinating, I don't know that you can say that the guy getting interviewed is more of the academic persuasion that's arguing in good faith in favour of his work but rather he's operating as the mouthpiece of an organisation and you end up waiting for a slip up or reading the subtext, rather than being able to get much of value from what he's actually saying.

Say Your Number

I thought Uncle Jim said something very interesting about the GAA being a niche sport to cover and why you don't see much crossover between GAA and Rugby/Soccer commentators, apart from Darragh Maloney I can't think of any other Soccer/Rugby commentators that have covered GAA, I know Ger Canning does the Costa Rica vs South Korea type World Cup games, apart from that it seems the same the other way round.

Glad Eoin pushed him on it.