Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

willowthewisp wrote: »

If it wasn't an advantage, why would constello kick it away?

Because it was there! Doh

seligehgit

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Because it was there! Doh

Obviously allows him to get his kick away quicker.

seligehgit wrote: »

Obviously allows him to get his kick away quicker.

Really?

Billy Mays

The Talking Bread wrote: »

As I said, in my earlier post not *rsed getting into a silly tit for tat all evening with someone about it, especially someone with such a bizarre approach to what happened so that was my way to end this before it gets into a nonsensical argument for the sake of argument.

So what else do you want me to do?

I'm honestly not trying to get into a tit for tat with you either but I don't get why you think my comment is bizarre.

What's so bizarre about saying a goalie shouldn't be putting a tee down on his own 14 yard line to take a kickout while the ball is in open play?

My main point is the hypocrisy. It isn't even about trying to damn Costello.
I stated this already when I initially brought up the Costello thing. (Link......... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104719171&postcount=3105)

Whereas Keegan's name has been torn asunder, causing the match thread to be closed because some of the by the posters here calling him all sort of names, the media and former players wasting articles on the GPS incident when they should be celebrating the game itself, ..................yet not a word was said about this incident and when it is gathering a bit of proper attention now, you won't hear any of the "outraged" critics of the Keegan incident at least offering some sort of acknowledgement to the antics of the Dub players in those last 4 minutes.

Literally grabbing the closest man and jumping on him off the ball to stop him participating in the most crucial minute or two this whole Championship.

At least accept their is a level of parity in gamesmanship and my point is what Costello, Kilkenny et al done in those last few minutes may have been the winning of the game for them.

But, what can you do. I doubt Keegan will care to be honest if he gets a few games ban at this stage. Yet people just want him banned to punish him?

You certainly can't damn one incident and completely defend the other

I don't see any Mayo fan saying what Keegan done wasn't "wrong", but it was merely understandable why he done it and, owing to human nature and what was on the line, completely defaming his character (as was the case with some posters here and, indeed with a little help from the clickbait media) seems outrageous, in itself.

And that outrageousness is only exacerbated by people casting aside Dublin's antics as if they are, in themselves, ok

The Talking Bread wrote: »

My main point is the hypocrisy. It isn't even about trying to damn Costello.
I stated this already when I initially brought up the Costello thing. (Link......... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104719171&postcount=3105)

Whereas Keegan's name has been torn asunder, causing the match thread to be closed because some of the by the posters here calling him all sort of names, the media and former players wasting articles on the GPS incident when they should be celebrating the game itself, ..................yet not a word was said about this incident and when it is gathering a bit of proper attention now, you won't hear any of the "outraged" critics of the Keegan incident at least offering some sort of acknowledgement to the antics of the Dub players in those last 4 minutes.

Literally grabbing the closest man and jumping on him off the ball to stop him participating in the most crucial minute or two this whole Championship.

At least accept their is a level of parity in gamesmanship and my point is what Costello, Kilkenny et al done in those last few minutes may have been the winning of the game for them.

But, what can you do. I doubt Keegan will care to be honest if he gets a few games ban at this stage. Yet people just want him banned to punish him?

You certainly can't damn one incident and completely defend the other

I don't see any Mayo fan saying what Keegan done wasn't "wrong", but it was merely understandable why he done it and, owing to human nature and what was on the line, completely defaming his character (as was the case with some posters here and, indeed with a little help from the clickbait media) seems outrageous, in itself.

And that outrageousness is only exacerbated by people casting aside Dublin's antics as if they are, in themselves, ok

Could easily of been three black cards for the Dublin forwards for what they did. It was a pre planned attack. Three forwards lying on top of the backs. It was as cynical as it gets. You can bet if Kerry or Mayo did it, it would be Charlie the clowns first headline.

Of course Charlie the clown didn't see that either. How he is considered a journalist is beyond me. He's a mouth piece for Dublin GAA nothing more.

I mean, this is literally Kilkenny, jumping onto Keegan, off the ball, pinning hi to the ground so he can't involve himself in the game? Straight after the Rock free went over. There was at least another 5 Dublin players who done this

And the sad thing is, he done sweet f*ck all else Sunday

Needles73

BENDYBINN wrote: »

What advantage was it for clarke to have the tee in position before the free was taken?.
He had to bring the ball there anyway just as easy bring the tee with him.
Daft.

If you cannot see the advantage there wouldn't be any point in trying to explain it. Surely it's obvious?

Needles73 wrote: »

If you cannot see the advantage there wouldn't be any point in trying to explain it. Surely it's obvious?

.5 of a sec?

Billy Mays

The Talking Bread wrote: »

My main point is the hypocrisy. It isn't even about trying to damn Costello.
I stated this already when I initially brought up the Costello thing. (Link......... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=104719171&postcount=3105)

Whereas Keegan's name has been torn asunder, causing the match thread to be closed because some of the by the posters here calling him all sort of names, the media and former players wasting articles on the GPS incident when they should be celebrating the game itself, ..................yet not a word was said about this incident and when it is gathering a bit of proper attention now, you won't hear any of the "outraged" critics of the Keegan incident at least offering some sort of acknowledgement to the antics of the Dub players in those last 4 minutes.

Literally grabbing the closest man and jumping on him off the ball to stop him participating in the most crucial minute or two this whole Championship.

At least accept their is a level of parity in gamesmanship and my point is what Costello, Kilkenny et al done in those last few minutes may have been the winning of the game for them.

But, what can you do. I doubt Keegan will care to be honest if he gets a few games ban at this stage. Yet people just want him banned to punish him?

You certainly can't damn one incident and completely defend the other

I don't see any Mayo fan saying what Keegan done wasn't "wrong", but it was merely understandable why he done it and, owing to human nature and what was on the line, completely defaming his character (as was the case with some posters here and, indeed with a little help from the clickbait media) seems outrageous, in itself.

And that outrageousness is only exacerbated by people casting aside Dublin's antics as if they are, in themselves, ok

Didn't read any of the stuff in the match thread tbh. They're best avoided really.

I'd agree with you on the abuse of Keegan. It's way over the top a lot of the time. I've stated before on here I actually like the guy. He's a brilliant player and any team would love to have him. He's a high profile player though and throwing the GPS at the ball was something that's probably never been seen before, let alone in the last minute of an All Ireland final, so people are gonna talk about it. Personally speaking I wasn't outraged at all.

Agree with you on the gamesmanship aswell. Dublin were pulling and dragging out of your lads for the last kick out. I don't like to see it but the the way the game is now it's almost accepted that teams will do it.

On the Costello tee thing, watch the video again til the end. There's players from both teams beside where Clarke put the tee down just as Rock is about to take his kick. If Rock scuffs it or it comes back off the post it's not a stretch to say the ball's going to be in that area where the tee was.

PARlance

If only there were 2 additional referees handy to help out the main man in the middle...

The powers to be need to reform the role of the linesman in Senior InterCounty Football. Get them off the line and into the action, give them half of the pitch each and make them responsible for off the ball stuff. Make them secondary refs.

1 year of that with a heavy hand and you cut out so much of the messing, making the game an even better spectacle.

They're completely underutilized at present and having them on the line is no guarantee that they get the call right anyway.

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Literally grabbing the closest man and jumping on him off the ball to stop him participating in the most crucial minute or two this whole Championship.

In cases like this I think Joe Brolly's suggestion of a 30m free along with a black card is worth considering. Would they do it in a one point game if the threat was there, would they f*ck.

seligehgit

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Stoner

loads of tickets for the ladies final left over in work, nobody wants them

Stoner wrote: »

loads of tickets for the ladies final left over in work, nobody wants them

Unfortunate to see that. 34,000 at last years finals. Pressure on the Dubs in this one I suspect. They've lost the last 3 finals to Cork.

Clarke gets POTY nomination with Moran, Cluxton and Mccarthy

Stoner

Deleted User wrote:

Unfortunate to see that. 34,000 at last years finals. Pressure on the Dubs in this one I suspect. They've lost the last 3 finals to Cork.

I'd say if it was two other counties, people are sick of us until 2018!

kilns

The Talking Bread wrote: »

http://amp.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/footage-emerges-of-dublin-forward-interfering-with-mayo-goalkeepers-kicking-tees-before-last-kick-out-806672.html

I actually think this was worse than Keegans incident the more I look at it which I am not in the mood to get into a childish silly tit for tat about if you disagree or it suits you to disagree . Not a word about it barely compared to Keegans which makes it all the worse.

Goalkeepers are not allowed leave kicking tees placed out the field. So the first tee should not have been there in the first place. If you are honest, if Mayo just scored a point to go one up with a minute to go and a mayo player didnt do the same thing, you would be mad at him

The high horse brigade

kilns wrote: »

Goalkeepers are not allowed leave kicking tees placed out the field. So the first tee should not have been there in the first place. If you are honest, if Mayo just scored a point to go one up with a minute to go and a mayo player didnt do the same thing, you would be mad at him

He then went behind the goal to get rid of all the other tees.

Can we just leave this, I'm tiring of it now.

I genuinely wouldn't, I swear that. Why would I. I've already adressed the reasons I initially brought this up if you see my post on last page.

Anyway, its not really the point. Costello was sneaking around the goals to get them also and throwing them away. Ignore that if you will. Pretty clear it wasn't player welfare or GAA rule book he was worried about. If that was so he also wouldn't have tried to pin down his man off the ball.

My main point isthe hypocrisy really the respective player's on each teams actions the last 5 minutes.

Oldtree

kilns wrote: »

Goalkeepers are not allowed leave kicking tees placed out the field. So the first tee should not have been there in the first place.

What rule are you referring to?

djPSB

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Unfortunate to see that. 34,000 at last years finals. Pressure on the Dubs in this one I suspect. They've lost the last 3 finals to Cork.

Have Mayo much of a chance?

blinding

djPSB wrote: »

Have Mayo much of a chance?

Hopefully Alan Costello won’t be playing but you never know what kind of stunt the Dubs would pull:D:eek:

Shurimgreat

If a player can steal and throw away the opposing goalkeepers tees, what's to stop one of the coaching staff doing the same when delivering instructions to their own players. Where does the stealing of tees stop?

I hope the GAA make an example of Costello. On a par with the Keegan incident imo. Sportsmanship like this should have no part in the game. The GAA need to send out a strong message.

BonnieSituation

Tee-gate has run its course. Commiserations and and congratulations on a great final.
Really hope Rochford stays and Andy stays on.

Either way... I'm oot of here. See yiz in January.

blanch152

Shurimgreat wrote: »

If a player can steal and throw away the opposing goalkeepers tees, what's to stop one of the coaching staff doing the same when delivering instructions to their own players. Where does the stealing of tees stop?

I hope the GAA make an example of Costello. On a par with the Keegan incident imo. Sportsmanship like this should have no part in the game. The GAA need to send out a strong message.

Costello removing something from the field that shouldn't be there is a real crime. Thank God he didn't pick up Lee's GPS unit, he could have got a six-month ban for that.

Haileunlikely

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Why was Martin carney on mid west yesterday? Where were the usual guys like John Casey and billy fitz?

I heard John Casey on Radio 1 just before the match , he was a nervous wreck, the presenter was actually worried for him

blanch152 wrote: »

Costello removing something from the field that shouldn't be there is a real crime. Thank God he didn't pick up Lee's GPS unit, he could have got a six-month ban for that.

You should go back to your Pokemon blanch or you have already spent too long trying to catch them, you keep mixing fantasy and reality.

Oldtree

blanch152 wrote: »

Costello removing something from the field that shouldn't be there is a real crime.

What rule are You referring to?