GoneHome wrote: » I have to say the new roundabout layout at Annabella, Mallow, is a huge improvement, especially with traffic coming from Cork during evening rush-hour.
marno21 wrote: » Mallow's biggest bottleneck now is the N20 Plaza
L1011 wrote: » I assumed they'd done something slightly more than rebranding that roadside Topaz to become the Mallow Plaza; like maybe building an actual new "MSA" equivalent. The photos on their facebook page suggest they didn't. That really is quite pathetic for all the marketing it got.
GoneHome wrote: » It's a nightmare of a place and to think they applied for planning permission a couple of years ago to make the SuperMacs a drive-thru how was that going to happen with the limited space they have as it is?
corinthion wrote: » while i find that a huge improvement in the Cork-Limerick direction and vice averse i think it has caused more of a problem coming from the Killarney side at peak times , im not sure about coming out of Mallow town itself , but the Killarney road is now turning out a bit of a disaster if your heading to Cork
Kevwoody wrote: » 6pm on a wet Wednesday evening on the road connecting Ireland's 2nd and 3rd cities.
Cork Truck Driver wrote: » Nowhere else in Europe would you witness that on a main road linking 2 major cities.
Kevwoody wrote: » Presumably it happens twice a day almost every day.
Idbatterim wrote: » my god! Why the f**k were multiple massively expensive motorways given the go ahead before this, some of which are about to open?! Its an absolute disgrace!
Kevwoody wrote: » The M17/18 is as badly needed as a new M20 in my opinion. I travel both roads weekly and believe it or not, I'd rather the likes of Claregalway and Oranmore bypassed before Charleville or Mallow. That being said, from a safety and sheer traffic volume point of view, yes the M20 should have been done first, but I'm confident Varadkar will push it through soon.
Cork Truck Driver wrote: » Kevwoody wrote: » The M17/18 is as badly needed as a new M20 in my opinion. I travel both roads weekly and believe it or not, I'd rather the likes of Claregalway and Oranmore bypassed before Charleville or Mallow. That being said, from a safety and sheer traffic volume point of view, yes the M20 should have been done first, but I'm confident Varadkar will push it through soon. What strikes me as odd is varadkar is all for it now but was also the one who cancelled the project in 2011 yet the other projects went ahead.
Idbatterim wrote: my god! Why the f**k were multiple massively expensive motorways given the go ahead before this, some of which are about to open?! Its an absolute disgrace!
Aontachtoir wrote: » Nothing odd about it. We had no money then. We have money now. It's a nice reflection on how we've turned around so much since then that Varadkar could be the one to finally give it the green light.
D Trent wrote: » What rock are you under ? Oranmore has been bypassed for nigh on 30 yrs at this stage. I live in Galway and by Christ I'd rather Charleville bypassed before Claregalway, I'm down there for work a lot. And to those of ye complaining about cattle on N20 will ye stop. Just stop. Yanks would pay big money for that raw experience and them photographs.
Cork Truck Driver wrote: » 2 yanks died on the N20 just last week. R.I.P to both.
D Trent wrote: » What rock are you under ? <snip>And to those of ye complaining about cattle on N20 will ye stop. Just stop. Yanks would pay big money for that raw experience and them photographs.
Middle Man wrote: » Now, there's an idea - anyone good at putting up YouTube videos? What if there was a massive hit on such a video about the N20 and "Quaint Ireland"? :rolleyes: Perhaps the embarrassment might spur the powers that be into action!
Aontachtoir wrote: » The motorway had been rejected by ABP, I believe. Furthermore, ABP approval is not good forever - you use it or you lose it. There was no foreseeable chance that the motorway would be built while planning was potentially valid because we were locked into the IMF bailout (we were using their money, not ours). As such, continuing on with a planning process that would probably have to be repeated anyway was a waste of money that we didn't have. And you can't CPO if you don't have the cash for the P part. Cancelling the M20 was not a dastardly act by a Dublin politician looking to screw over Cork. It was an unavoidable symptom of our economic failure at the time.
marno21 wrote: » The motorway was rejected because the residents of Buttevant complained that Buttevant had no access to the M20. Which was valid, the last M20 scheme didn't have enough junctions (it planned for 7 between Patrickswell and Cork:Croom, O'Rourkes Cross, Ballyhea, Mallow East (N72/73), Mallow South, Rathduff/Grenagh, N40 North Ring). There should be 10+, Charleville R515, Buttevant, another between Mallow and Cork) Everything bar 10 schemes was cancelled, likely owing to instruction from the Troika and the restrictions on borrowing.
