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Irish bride-to-be pleads with hotel

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A bizarre exchange occurred on air on today's Liveline as an Irish bride-to-be pleaded with her hotel venue to show 'compassion' as she faces a potential €2,000 bill for no-show guests.
https://www.thevow.ie/the-final-say/wedding-talk/irish-bridetobe-pleads-with-hotel-to-meet-halfway-after-guests-choose-gaa-match-over-wedding-36147970.html

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osarusan

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I was at a wedding recently where one table had a tablet propped up on the table with live coverage of the GAA games. There were a few double takes and disapproving glances, but sure some of those people were sidling up later to ask what the score was.

Do we know whether, in this case, the €2000 includes expected gifts or not? I'd have though anybody who originally agreed to attend would be giving a gift anyway. It sounds to me like they are just annoyed at having to pay a set amount for what turns out to be fewer guests (that might have been possible to get at a cheaper price).

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Hey. I really want to wish the bride and significant other the best on a big day!

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The price per head also covers far more than just the meal. It covers the drinks reception and finger food etc, it covers the rental of the function room, it (sometimes) covers corkage or wine, it covers the bridal suite and normally rooms for the parents also along with a 5 course meal normally. 60 to 80 per head would be about average but some of hotels go above the 100 euro per head for their higher packages. A smaller wedding also makes it more expensive and worse if people drop out. If you are inviting 250 plus a few no shows wont bother the hotel but most hotels have minimum number depending on the size of the venue and dropping below this will not be let slide by the hotel. I reckon the 130 is probably close to minimum for the hotel in question.

Also I don't know where people are attending weddings but I don't think I ever had a bad meal and some have been absolutely delicious and mountains off it too.

RocketRaccoon

18 guests costing €2000? €111 a head for dinner? Idiot.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

She's handled the whole thing appallingly. It is not the hotel's fault that some of her friends are rude ignorant knobs. She had a huge cheek to both threaten them with Liveline and then go ahead and try to justify her behaviour on national airwaves.

I'm sure, if she'd been a bit more polite about the whole thing they might have made some kind of gesture eg a free round of drinks. But she's just pissed them off now and I don't see why they should do anything for her.

jamesbere

redandwhite wrote: »

I wonder is the groom tempted to go to the match......

They could get married on the pitch and instead of kissing they could throw in the ball to start the match

aaronjumper

I think she was wrong but still feel bad for her. Imagine a bunch of people ducking an important day for you to go watch a match.

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ohnonotgmail wrote: »

how are 16 guests not turning up costing her €2000?

In lost presents?

Game_On

I can't help but feel quite sorry for her. She was presumably understandably very annoyed when she found out the football match would disrupt a number of guests attending her wedding and, giving her the benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming she acted on impulse and made a very bad and unreasonable decision to threaten the hotel if they didn't reduce her bill accordingly. It has really blown up in her face now and this will probably set the tone in the final run up to her wedding day which is a shame for her.

I agree with everyone else who said this shouldn't actually place any additional financial burden on the couple: they agreed a fixed price which they had presumably budgeted for and this is still what they will have to pay. If they anticipate receiving fewer gifts and have to bridge the gap there, well, that was their risk in funding the wedding this way, and is not the hotel's problem unfortunately. It was also strange to mention they have just had a baby and the lost money is more meaningful for that reason. Again, it's their lives, their responsibility to budget, and their financial risk, not the hotel's.

[Deleted User]

It's amazing how often Joe Duffy & Liveline is used as a threat to businesses.

RocketRaccoon

aaronjumper wrote: »

I think she was wrong but still feel bad for her. Imagine a bunch of people ducking an important day for you to go watch a match.

As has been said, give out to them, not the hotel. She signed the contract and went about this in the worst way imaginable.

aaronjumper

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

As has been said, give out to them, not the hotel. She signed the contract and went about this in the worst way imaginable.

And as I said I think she was wrong. Going after the hotel was a ****ty thing to do but still.

Wildcard7

To clear up some confusion: The guests didn't cancel to watch a match, they cancelled to play a match, because their team (completely unexpectedly?) made it to the finals.

"as her guests' GAA team had made it to the semi finals of their league, with the match to be played on the same day as her nuptials."

"We've only just been told in the last few days that they won't make it on the day and we've already paid for all the meals. The whole team will be missing for the match."

7 Seconds...

She certainly went about handling the situation the wrong way & the hotel in my view at not at fault. But to be fair on the bride, it is the week of their wedding, I don't think too many brides would be happy to hear that 16 of their guests were choosing a GAA match over their "Special Day" especially in the days leading up to it. If she's in any a way a decent person I am sure she will look back on this after wedding and cringe.

super_furry

Just listened to it and she said €2,000 including other guests that have let them down. Seems that the football team weren’t the only ones keen to avoid the wedding.

Donal55

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It's amazing how often Joe Duffy & Liveline is used as a threat to businesses.

Its heartening however to see a few hit back most recently O'Leary and now this hotel manager.

Sebastian Dangerfield

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We delayed our wedding dinner by an hour to work around this! I thought it really added to the day, almost a 50 50 split in support for the two teams, but it may have annoyed some

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RocketRaccoon wrote: »

As has been said, give out to them, not the hotel. She signed the contract and went about this in the worst way imaginable.

So why doesn't the proud groom speak up for his blushing betroth?

Neyite

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It's amazing how often Joe Duffy & Liveline is used as a threat to businesses.

I used to work in a place were we had a running tally on the noticeboard of how often the place got threatened with Joe. It was at least once a week. Each.

We would take great pleasure in pretending not to know who he was.

kingtut

If her friends would rather go to a match than attend her wedding then it's a blessing in disguise!

c68zapdsm5i1ru

super_furry wrote: »

Just listened to it and she said €2,000 including other guests that have let them down. Seems that the football team weren’t the only ones keen to avoid the wedding.

In fairness, there's always going to be a few people who have to cancel last minute - due to illness, unexpected work commitments or somesuch.

_Dara_

It kinda seems like she had factored guest cash gifts into her sums when figuring out how they were going to pay for the hotel. Tip for life: don't look to your invitees as walking, talking moneybags. Make sure you can afford the wedding independent of gifts. Then you can enjoy whatever gifts you receive for what they are, a token of good wishes.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

Just read the article again and yes, it does seem to be the actual team who have had to bail out of the wedding, which is different from guests just letting her down because they'd rather go to the match.

If she is worrying about less cash gifts, surely the team will give the same value gifts whether or not they can actually attend on the day?

Although I agree with pp that brides and grooms should not plan extravagant weddings based on anticipated cash gifts from the guests.

mcgiggles

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She certainly went about handling the situation the wrong way & the hotel in my view at not at fault. But to be fair on the bride, it is the week of their wedding, I don't think too many brides would be happy to hear that 16 of their guests were choosing a GAA match over their "Special Day" especially in the days leading up to it. If she's in any a way a decent person I am sure she will look back on this after wedding and cringe.

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valoren wrote:

Now they decided to play a match instead leaving her out of pocket contractually with the hotel. That's pretty appalling from those who decided to stay away having accepted an invitation.

As has been said before, the guys aren't ditching to watch a match they are ditching to PLAY a match! If I had busted my a$$ all year playing a sport and didn't know I'd get to a final/semi-final whatever it is, and I got to the final unexpectedly I'd be ditching the wedding too! I would of course send a card with money for cancelling so late and maybe head to the evening part but I don't blame the players at all! Or the hotel!
The bride is being crazy and wanting the hotel to change their legal contract that they signed! She totally handled this the wrong way!!

eviltwin

I'd be upset too if sixteen friends decided the week of my wedding they weren't going but it's not the hotel's fault and her anger is misdirected.

Loughc

Should we setup a gofundme page for the poor bride?

seamus

valoren wrote: »

A football match is not an emergency.

Well look, she's invited at least ten of the players, so she knows how important the game is to those who play it. There's a good chance they escalate GAA well above where you would put it. You're not right about how important it is and neither are they. Each to their own.

If it's a championship match, then nothing barring your own wedding, injury or illness is a good enough reason to miss the match.

It seems to me though that applying a little bit of common sense would go a long way. The partners of the players can go to the wedding. Arrange a bus to pick the players up after the game, and bring them straight to the reception.

It seems odd that those playing just straight up cancelled without coming up with any compromise.

Sebastian Dangerfield

aaronjumper wrote: »

I think she was wrong but still feel bad for her. Imagine a bunch of people ducking an important day for you to go watch a match.

Maybe a sign of how ridiculous the wedding fiasco has gone? Im at a wedding next month with 350 people attending. Surely the wider into that crowd you go, the less familiar you are with the people and in turn, the more likely you are to be stood up for something else.

_Dara_

I'm glad that businesses are pushing back against 'the customer is always right'. People think it gives them a licence to demand whatever they want. I think businesses are realising that it's pretty obvious when a customer is kicking up a stink for no good reason and that the general public will see that.

Mena Mitty

What date is this wedding with the 30 free dinners on ? I'm up for a bit of gate-crashing with an ironing board under one arm and a toaster under the other.

O and ;-)