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High Noon with George Hook.

kneemos

A full ten minutes to get to the Muslims,and now it's Rugby.Not much has changed.

Sounds in good form anyway.

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Morgans

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

This is the sort of rubbish that gets me though.. We are lectured about equality all the time by RTE and Newstalk... What about finding the best new talent, whether they be male or female?.. I mean when that backstabber was on with Marion Finucane at the weekend, she pointed out that almost all of the producers of the shows are female.. Where is the outrage for equality of opportunity for male producers.. Should quotas not be introduced there too?

Or course, a cold honest reading of the situation might be that maybe men are more suited to presenting and women are more suited to being producers. But not that I have just said that, I'm expecting Dil to be picketing the office by lunch time.

My guess, and its just a guess, is that there may have been some shenanigans of some sort that led to Collete Fitzpatrick leaving the breakfast programme. I felt the editor in her statement at the weekend was keen to show that it had nothing to do with any anti-women issue. When Sarah McInerney was chopped from DriveTime and zero women were on air weekdays primetime, an unfortunate pattern emerged and got the backs up of female media commentators.

My own opinion is that I dont think Paul Williams is as good as Collette Fitzpatrick and I dont think Chris O'Donoghue and many others are as good as Sarah McInerney. I think its wrong to assume that they arent on air because they are women, but it has led to an unfortunate pattern on newstalk.

The Bishop Basher

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Or course, a cold honest reading of the situation might be that maybe men are more suited to presenting and women are more suited to being producers. But not that I have just said that, I'm expecting Dil to be picketing the office by lunch time.

Would have to agree..

A bit like comedy...

Most women just aren't all that good at it in my experience..

PeterTheNinth

Ray Purchase wrote: »

Ivan Yates pretty strong on Hook's remarks. "I utterly repudiate not only his remarks but his views and they were wholly inappropriate."

Ivan has backed the wrong horse enough times. He's not going to take any further risks.

PeterTheNinth

Morgans wrote: »

As Ivan said, last week, Newstalk is working hard to find the new Clare Byrne.

This is the sort of rubbish that gets me though.. We are lectured about equality all the time by RTE and Newstalk... What about finding the best new talent, whether they be male or female?.. I mean when that backstabber was on with Marion Finucane at the weekend, she pointed out that almost all of the producers of the shows are female.. Where is the outrage for equality of opportunity for male producers.. Should quotas not be introduced there too?

Or course, a cold honest reading of the situation might be that maybe men are more suited to presenting and women are more suited to being producers. But not that I have just said that, I'm expecting Dil to be picketing the office by lunch time.

The Bishop Basher

This whole unfortunate debacle has certainly shown up quite a number of public figures for the pathetic followers that they are..

Strangely enough, for me it's the 3 I like the least that have come out looking the best..

One of them is George himself..

It's certainly been a victory of sorts for those who enjoy a good ol dose of outrage and offense although they've actually done their cause huge damage. They're just too caught up in their outrage and offense right now to have the sense of calm and foresight required to see it.

Common sense and freedom to articulate an opinion are the real losers here though..

It's kinda scary when you think about where all this politically correct horse ****e is going to lead us in the end.

Never thought i'd think or say or think this but give me old fashioned conservative right wing values any day..

And that's where the left are pushing normally middle of the road people like me..

Keep it up folks.. Every time you open your gobs and get outraged you lose a little bit more..

Please keep it up :-)

Morgans

Have only heard Ciara Kelly occasionally on Newstalk, but she didnt do herself any favours on Clare Byrne last night. As Ivan said, last week, Newstalk is working hard to find the new Clare Byrne. (Not that I think she is the epitome of a great broadcaster, those were his words). Think they will need to look further than Ciara Kelly for it.

Morgans

Interesting that Ivan isnt going down the easy out - saying that what GH said was clumsly but is a good guy and has been for years - but he went beyond that to criticise not only what George said but also his views.

Nekarsulm

He's no liberal luvvie, but he is in need of a paying job!

VinLieger

Ray Purchase wrote: »

What else would you expect from a liberal luvvie like Yates, right?

LOLwut? Yates is a liberal luvvie?

Ray Purchase

What else would you expect from a liberal luvvie like Yates, right?

Ray Purchase

Ivan Yates pretty strong on Hook's remarks

"I utterly repudiate not only his remarks but his views and they were wholly inappropriate."

PeterTheNinth

styron wrote: »

Yeah we may come for the infectious rhythms - but stay for the empowering feminism

This sort of double standard really annoys me. Can you imagine if one of Hook's supporters made a video with the lyrics "This love we have, there's no respect, but she's a big fat ****er so what does she expect"? It would be headline on the Journal, simply to discredit them because they were Hook supporters. But because these idiots proclaim themselves as feminists, they get a free pass.

As I said before, there is different treatment of people in the news based on whether they agree with the liberal agenda or whether they are more conservative. Fake/Biased News.

PeterTheNinth

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i wonder what alison spittle thinks about George lately? i hadn't heard of her until she started the friday evening slot on his show shooting the breeze.

Yeah I forgot about her. George basically gave her a public profile out of nothing. But I checked her Twitter and she said nothing about it. And what about the Here Come The Girls crowd? Seems like all the "dames" that George helped on the show have deserted him in his hour of need. If I were him, I would be very disappointed that they have all taken the easy option and said nothing. And I dont believe it's because any of them don't think that George is a decent man, it's because they are lacking in the courage to possibly make themselves unpopular by going against the grain. Cowards the lot of them.

And I wouldn't include Ciara Kelly in that. She's not a coward. She's a conniving backstabber.

foxtrot101

Lt Dan wrote: »

Wow 4 years? Here, how come those lads were never snapped up by RTE sport? Or would the culture at RTE as expressed by the tweets explain that?

It was incredibly bad timing. RTE's finances were in a mess at the time. It has been rationalising ever since and is still posting massive deficits. I also suspect there was an element of RTE's sports department guarding it's own patch. The shows that Second Captain's have done in RTE all came under the entertainment department, not the sports department. That's despite the fact OTB trounced anything RTE's sports department but up against them on radio ...RTE Radio 1's drivetime sport...2fm's Game on.

The reason given for choosing the Right Hook over OTB at the time was the demographics of their audiences. For Newstalk to increase it's ad revenue it needed to increase the number of female listeners and Hook had more of them than OTB. A bit ironic given what Newstalk is being called these days.

Lt Dan

constitutionus wrote: »

ya can see the transcript now !

George : " what the hell were you thinking going there ?!?!?!"

que newstalk editorial slamming the 15 sec kill switch

Actually, that is a question a lot of the nation wants to know. Would sound right to be the first or second question. It was well known in advance that the Arab Spring was moving in on Egypt and that the democratically elected MB were not very popular by day 10 of their glorious reign.

Lt Dan

CatFromHue wrote: »

Were did they make it public?

My understanding was that the lads wanted to change things up on their show and wanted to start earlier. Management didn't want this so they resigned as they were a bit fed up or felt they were going stale in the 7-10pm slot.

They may or may not like Hook but I don't think he was the reason for leaving. Ken was on a different podcast and mentioned that his wife worked mornings and he worked nights so it worked out that they never got to see each other during the week.

From my memory, NT suggested that Hook stood his ground and rejected a proposal to change his time slot.

It was never confirmed to be true. As a result, Hook got dogs abuse from OTB fans (nothing to do with the lads) when the 4 of them left. Hook then made a snarky enough comments about OTB and insisted that he had nothing to do with the fall out .

I am sure if people checked the OTB thread covering that time the stuff would refresh people's memories (I am hazy about it , but there was definitely a case that Hook got mentioned) I recall during the OTB discussion at the time, some informed posters were talking about how commercially it would not get the audience if Sports was on that early

The understanding at the time was the lads called O'Brien's bluff and his people told them to sod off and instead of seeing out their notice told them to leave . I think "gardening leave" was the joke term (in light of some Premiership manager getting similar treatment)

Wow 4 years? Here, how come those lads were never snapped up by RTE sport? Or would the culture at RTE as expressed by the tweets explain that?

sligojoek

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i wonder what alison spittle thinks about George lately? i hadn't heard of her until she started the friday evening slot on his show shooting the breeze.

For that alone, he should have been fired.

Nekarsulm

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i wonder what alison spittle thinks about George lately? i hadn't heard of her until she started the friday evening slot on his show shooting the breeze.

Now that was a cringe inducing double act! A irritating, unfunny "comedian" and Hook giggling like a school boy over each of her utterances.
I felt it was a very weird segment whenever she was on. Not quite Jimmy Saville weird, but weird enough.
I was grateful recently as she seemed to have been dropped as a regular guest.

ballsymchugh

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

I have no difficulty believing that there are staff of one kind or another on such awful money.

.......

I really wish I could name and shame some of these places.

a cousin of mine worked as a researcher on the breakfast show, as an unpaid intern. and when they move on, they just get more.

eamonn dunphy said the same when he had his falling out, about how bad the younger staff were being paid, and not getting reimbursed when they bought the papers in the morning to do their research.

ballsymchugh

i wonder what alison spittle thinks about George lately? i hadn't heard of her until she started the friday evening slot on his show shooting the breeze.

monstermag

TheDavester wrote: »

l lose any respect for those who listen to their ****e they spout, two fellas, phd graduated acting the sham for attention ....Lads your gimmicks staler than Cian Twomey's , we can see your desperate to stay relevant

SATIRE SATIRE SATIRE that's their defence for all their ****ing contradictions.

TheDavester

monstermag wrote: »

Rubberbandits voices for a generation ffs. They go on a couple of tv shows vaping while spouting some ****e about post truth, and very little else. Painful ****e.

l lose any respect for those who listen to their ****e they spout, two fellas, phd graduated acting the sham for attention ....Lads your gimmicks staler than Cian Twomey's , we can see your desperate to stay relevant

brooke 2

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

That was Friday's show and it was Dr. Ciara Kelly, she was standing in for George.

I think the 'I'm a woman' outburst may have been influenced by somethings that were said just before noon on the Friday Gathering on Sean O'Rourke's programme. A number of contributors to the 'Friday Gathering' were very critical of Newstalk over their lack of gender balance etc. There was also Fintan O'Toole's article which was quite negative of the station for the same reason.

One of the women on SO'R, Alison ?, called NT 'BlokesRadio'!

brooke 2

Thargor wrote: »

I forgot to ask this at the time but the day Hook was taken off the air there was a female presenter on and she said something like "And yes I am a woman" and she sounded all angry saying it, did anyone catch that or know what it was about?

It was Hook's protégé, Ciara Kelly. :rolleyes: I think she assumed all the listeners might have known she was referring to Fintan O'Toole's article in which he said there were no female presenters on Newstalk.

styron

Calhoun wrote: »

You would be amazed how many like them just because they are from limerick and the left love then as they promote feminism.

Apparently suicidal young males need feminism.

Yeah we may come for the infectious rhythms - but stay for the empowering feminism

brooke 2

Calhoun wrote: »

Be like Dr.Eva popular until she goes to far then she will fall back to obscurity

She got into trouble in her early days on Operation Transformation when she did a 'Dr. Eva' on one of the participants. She seems to be as hard as nuts!!

monstermag

Calhoun wrote: »

You would be amazed how many like them just because they are from limerick and the left love then as they promote feminism.

Apparently suicidal young males need feminism.

It's the heard mentality, play a few college gigs and u get the students eating out of your hand. All you got to do is make group of people feel good about themselves and there like putty in your hand.
They came out with that line "men need feminism" or something to that effect. They threw out that lline without actually explaining what exactly they meant.
Listening to them u would swear that every man in Ireland is ****ed up. Whereas in reality the vast majority have the upmost respect for women. Any place I've ever worked there's been a good mix of sexes, and we all got along perfectly fine. Women and Men for the most part are doing perfectly well.
I get worried sometimes when I here celebs talking about suicide, l think sometimes they make the problem worse.

brooke 2

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Dr Ciara Kelly is everywhere at the moment... :mad:

Anyway, she'll be on the Clare Byrne Show this evening - to take on the drinks industry.

Does she ever go home?

Calhoun

monstermag wrote: »

Rubberbandits voices for a generation ffs. They go on a couple of tv shows vaping while spouting some ****e about post truth, and very little else. Painful ****e.

You would be amazed how many like them just because they are from limerick and the left love then as they promote feminism.

Apparently suicidal young males need feminism.

Lady Chatterton

Thargor wrote: »

I forgot to ask this at the time but the day Hook was taken off the air there was a female presenter on and she said something like "And yes I am a woman" and she sounded all angry saying it, did anyone catch that or know what it was about?

That was Friday's show and it was Dr. Ciara Kelly, she was standing in for George.

I think the 'I'm a woman' outburst may have been influenced by somethings that were said just before noon on the Friday Gathering on Sean O'Rourke's programme. A number of contributors to the 'Friday Gathering' were very critical of Newstalk over their lack of gender balance etc. There was also Fintan O'Toole's article which was quite negative of the station for the same reason.