Arturo Handsome Arrowhead wrote: » I couldn't make head nor tail of that.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » The Craig Doyle tweets were very interesting
Billy86 wrote: » And finally answers that years-old AH thread about 'why is Craig Doyle absolutely everywhere these days?'
Darkglasses wrote: » Honestly if you can't understand the links or think it's unintelligible - cop yourself on, and learn how twitter works. It's a more important tool of communication than you realise, clearly.
Dr Brown wrote: » What did he say ?
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: Sorry, I just realised that this individual is still working with RTE.
DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: That makes it worse.
super_furry wrote: » Ryan Tubridy is actually two greyhounds stapled to a child.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » The jist of it is... Somebody muscled in on podge and Rodge just to get his name on it, made life difficult and then replaced them and failed 3 times with Craig Doyle and not really trying to hard to succeed.... What I find interesting about this is I have no bad feelings in regard to Mr Doyle, I always found him positive and good natured on tv. I think if this is true then RTÉs ineptitude helped ruin Craig Doyle. Now I know Doyle has a marmite affect etc but it's a valid point. I recall he left RTÉ quite vocally at the time. Edit: I just Googled it... Craig said working in RTÉ is like having sex with an old friend and the sex was appalling...
TallGlass wrote: » And the camera men in RTE are lazy as foook.
Ash.J.Williams wrote: » They do have egg and chips on Friday though... That's usually the best time to find people on site
RTE Secret Producer wrote: I'm an RTE producer, I've worked in, or in conjunction with a lot of different areas. Primarily TV. Kids, Daytime & Lifestyle, Entertainment, Docs, comedy, a little radio. If there's anything you want to know about #rte, feel free to ask and if I can, and wish to, I'll answer. It should go without saying, but this account is not affiliated with the station, merely my own personal views and observations. Things I have been enjoying this year : - working with the studio crew, who have more arcane working practices than a coven of witches. - Reporting to a genre head (that's what we call commissioning editors) who is so lazy they put on an out-of-office with no return date #rte. -Work with fellow staff members my bosses have told me are such hr nuisances they are trying to find a way to get them to take the package. -Working on a show no one, including presenters, want to make. So, #AMA about #RTE For the most part I will not tweet during work hours. Decided to eat outside of #rte rather than brave friday canteen. When i started I learnt most people skip the canteen because it's bad except on friday - when everyone comes out of the woodwork for the culinary highlight of the #rte week. The only thing that gets people excited. What is that - it's chips, beans and eggs for 3.50. Yeah, that's literally the most exciting for us in rte. Lunch brings me to the working day of production teams. Now, before I start this, there are production teams that work hard. But most don't. Start time: 10 am...ish. Normally people queue for our first coffee and scone in the oasis (thats the coffee shop in the rte tv building). First break - 11am - time for another coffee. 20 mins minimum. I know we just had coffee, but hey. Lunch 1-2. Although usually 1245-215. There are hour long exercise, running and yoga classes everyday. So people do them, and eat lunch. Second break around half three or four. That's another 20 minutes. People start leaving around half five. by 6 the place is deserted. Having spent years running/pa in independents, I couldn't believe #rte hours when I started. I thought it was amazing. And it is. But...It's like that because the vast majority of people in here, think what they are doing, is pointless. Since the recession hit a decade ago, there have been basically no promotions. The same people are in the same jobs they were in 2008. So you have 50 year old researchers, 60 year old BCO's. Everyone frustrated and pissed off, and fundamentally not arsed. Genre heads, our bosses-are the exact same people as 10 years ago. 15 in many cases. & people wonder why #rte makes the same shows always. So, people complaining about the way the #latelate is filmed... Here's why everything shot in RTE studios looks like it's stuck in the 70s. #rte is very heavily unionised and the camera department (and studios in general) have used this power to make it hard to make good looking tv. Work practices are implemented not for safety, or staff protection, but to discourage innovation because innovation is hard work. So here's some of the fun rules: Want to go handheld? In any other studio a cameraman picks up the camera and a trainee looks after the cabling. In RTE you can't use a trainee (10 euro per hour) you have to use ANOTHER CAMERAMAN (50 euro PH). Why? Because the union wants you to. No safety reason. Just protectionism. RTE has a one-man jib. In RTE you have to have 2 people for it which makes it harder to use properly. Why? Jobs for the boys. Next: training - there isn't any. People from other areas like staging are promoted, have a few chats with other camera people, and then, a week later are on set shooting. Even though they can't shoot to save their lives. If a camera person is bad. And a lot of them are. There is no way to make them better. If you complain, the union goes nuts. You can't request the good camera people, so every time you turn up in studio, you have different camera ops, some good, some bad. Our #RTE camera ops treat rehearsals like a joke. Routinely pulling up chairs and having a read of the paper, or take a break, so when you move between shots they routinely miss them. Meaning the rehearsal has to stop and go back. So they can put down their magazine. That is why the Late Late, Ray Darcy, Prime Time and everything else we make look awful - we cant go handheld, cant use jibs properly and can't get the same crew every week. I was working on a kids show a couple of years ago and one of the ops complained because of the complexity of the shots (not very complex) because and I quote "it's too much work". And it's not the camera ops individual fault. It's the view, in studio, that what is important is doing things THE WAY they want to rather than the way it should be done, for the best show, the happiest crew, and most satisfied viewers. But no, better to make mediocrity. But that's just one department. I can tell worse stories for staging, sound, electricians. And, most of all, my department - production. DMd a question about #rte studio quirks. Well, one quirk is the careful structuring of certain studio workers work hours. So Staging. Work past a certain hour, or weekends, it's double time. Work late and weekends, triple time. Work past midnight, and it's overtime payments that'd blow your mind. I've no problem with being paid overtime etc. but tv shows are made at night and weekends...why should you hit the bonusball jackpot for turning up for your job? I'm just bitter because researchers/producers etc. don't have any overtime. Anyway that means that there are times when people from #rte staging have earned over 100k a year. Staging, for those who don't know, are the people who move sets. Of course, there are a lot more people on 100K+ in the admin and management staff. And a lot of them do a lot less than moving stuff around. Any other qs about #rte? I'd rather be asked them out in the open, but if you're shy, DMs are fine. When you walk in to stage 7, which is the tv production team building, the first thing you walked by, for years, was Young People's (Programming). It always was busy, bursting with the youngest, and usually most enthusiastic people in #rte. Now - the lights are off. Only a genre head, executive producer and the odd straggler. It had been diminished for the last 15 years. When I joined it had the den, even after zig and zag left there was dustin, socky. But the commissioning editor cancelled that, and replaced it with stuff that kids didn't want to watch. Stuff parents would approve of, rather than kids would want to watch. Gradually everyone in the dept got old. Then they decided to take…(the following tweet seems to be missing)…pretty much, but it didn't happen as reported. It wasn't a surprise suddenly dumped on the dept by the DG (director general). The top end of the dept knew or so everyone in here reckons. It smells of the politics you get in here. There's no way it was a surprise to middle mgmt, who have been here 30 years longer than the DG. But hey, either way, it managed to go from here to zero in 20 years. Of course it's not just YPP (Young People's Programming) Look at the amount of internal content on RTE 2 today. One show - Soccer Republic. A show that is only on air because it's part of our deal with the FAI. Otherwise, nothing. No internal production. Prime time is just a film, followed by one Irish programme. And that's it. Look back at the listings 5, 10, 15 years ago and Monday was the big night of the week. Now, an old film. Sorry about the typos. I'm typing this outside and feeling vaguely paranoid. Don't get me wrong, YPP was a pretty good place to work. It just suffered from the same problem most of the rest of this place does. The comm eds forget that it's about making tv for viewers. Spend time trying to out politic each other instead. Programmes made for optics rather than for the sake of the programmes. Or made by people who agree with you, rather than those who make the best tv. Any questions on #rte? Right, time to go and work. I'll try and tweet at lunch or after work, so let me know any #RTE stuff you want to know about. questions make it easier. Hello to all the new followers. It's ironic that most of you are in #RTE. so you already know the things I'll be talking about. I'd also like to thank the dozens of colleagues who have DM'd me, sure they know who I am. Special hi to the #latelate, #rtesport, half of #primetime and a lot of people who spent too long in lifestyle. Which should I talk about? Someone asked in the DMs if I was taking the package. The package, for my handful of non-rte insiders, is a big wedge of money to leave. I won't. The package is fundamentally flawed. #RTE need to clear out the deadwood of middle management (hello genre heads and Execs) and unmotivated staffers (hello producers, SPs, old APs & researchers.) The problem is, people in those brackets know that they earn more in RTE then they would outside RTE. Also RTE offers a very nice lifestyle - frequent summers off, time off in lieu, very flexible hrs and finally a completely risk free environment. No matter what you do, you'll keep your job, or even get promoted if you are particularly…so the only people that leave are A) the most skilled-the people that you dont want to leave. Or People close to retirement - which saves you no money as they were leaving anyway. There are other reasons to stay in #rte obviously. And many good people work here. My point is that the package doesn't do what it should. Apparently I've been doing threads wrong. Thanks to the person who messaged me the right way to do it. Don't normally use twitter. To clarify.There are committed & talented people here, but bad systems, petty infighting & disillusioned staff make it difficult to do good. Sorry, i had a bit of a wobble. back now. I walked in the door yesterday and someone immediately asked me if I was the secret producer. So I freaked out and deactivated the account. Then I went for a coffee and realised everyone was asking everyone else if they were the secret producer. so, yeah. Getting a lot of DMs from RTE people, mostly either trying to guess who I am, or being vaguely aggressive. Thanks everyone. Won't be responding to that stuff. Those people saying I'm right but nitpicking tiny details- feel free to correct those details in public. I'm using twitter so people can correct me. Finally, people arguing that I'm making it harder for good people in RTE. Sorry about that but the whole point of this account is to show how hard it is for 'good' people to make good things. To make it a workplace I want to be in.. Someone asked-What's with RTE's narrow range of sports? Surely a public service broadcaster has a remit to cover all our games and endeavours. Well, you can only cover so much. If you go back 10-15 years, when Glen Killane ran sports, it was a centre of excellence. Not only did it have most sports, but the coverage was slick, and, if we didn't have the budget of the big UK channels, we still made a good stab at it. Look at it now. Soccer? Apart from an hour of the FAI mandated soccer republic - nothing. Good to see another show with any soccer coverage. But there isn't. Then course, Rugby - how much of that do we have? F1? Even losing part of the GAA coverage, Although that should be laid at the door of the GAA. The whole country participates for free in the GAA, and then they go and sell out to a foreign broadcaster most of the country doesn't have. Makes you proud to be Irish. Good forward thinking Croke park. Anyway…back to #rtesports. Look what we have now, a fraction of what we have 15 years ago. And the coverage we do have is tired. Derivative. Same people in Sports, just 15 years older. No mission. No style. No joy. Still, Ryle gets to commentate on the odd rugby game. That is the same across the board. A lack of innovation, no one being brave. Probably has something to do with the age profile. It's like the opposite of Logan's Run- there's nobody under 30 in RTE. Any questions? Our promo producers is another place to look. RTE Promos used to be this multi-award winning powerhouse, filled with the most creative 20 somethings on campus. It was budgeted, made ads better than most of the shows. Made viewers excited. Good place to work. Then the crash. Budget's gutted. no fun promos to make. Then opportunities to advance evaporated. And finally no new staff. So all the creatives in promo from 10 years ago, are, for the most part, still there. With no path for promotion. If they want to grow, they have to leave. The same story for us all through RTE TV. Do the same thing you have been doing, or leave. And the independent sector has been hit harder than the internal since the crash. A lot of my friends who I started with in the 90s out there, have had to leave the business. Why does no one talk about YPP? Then Vs Now (with a photo of The Den in its prime beside a modern RTE kid's show Stu Redman doesn't recognize). Well, I now have more twitter followers than facebook friends. Although i know most of that is hate-following. Thanks to my colleagues for the DMs of support. Not to the ones telling me I really need to appreciate how flexible RTE's 13 point roster is. Whoever keeps on trying to log in as me- My password is now random characters and verified through a pay as you go phone #whistleblowing101 So, I stumbled over this on a 6 year old key-drive - made me all nostalgic. Here's a fun question - what do the following shows have in common… Off The Rails Podge & Rodge Twotube The Republic of Telly The Den Actually - they all have 2 things in common... Guesses? Podge and Rodge, off the rails, republic, den, twotube - were all made internally and were cancelled without replacing them. All aimed at under 40s. All, apart from twotube maybe, things people were proud to work on. Not all good, but at least shows viewers gave a **** about. We have stopped making shows for the under 50s. Oh sorry, Vogue comes out of her mansion now and then to patronise marginalised communities. #edgy. Sorry, that's bitchy. But I spent time making docs. Vogues 'docs' go against all the decent aspects of Rte. Selling its ethics for viewers. Someone asked me if I think the licence fee is worth it. and why. My answer is yes it is, but a lot of it is being waster. Why is it worthit? First independent investigative journalism - He who cannot be named owns every media outlet worth talking about. Apart from RTE We need someone to report the news that isn't owned by a billionaire. Secondly, irish output - TV3 make no kids, comedy, irish language, proper investigative journalism etc. Not their fault - they are driven only by market forces. Licence fee means RTE can do that which isn't driven by profit. RTE just need to do a better job of it. CORRECTION Podge & Rodge wasn't replaced with nothing. I've just been DMd by an old friend in Ent. This is a great story- I had forgotten… Podge & Rodge was massively successful. But there was a new commissioning editor. And that commissioning editor didn't like it because HE hadn't come up with it. This commissioning editor never liked things until he had put his finger in the pie. He was only happy if he could claim credit. So he forced P&R to reformat so he could either claim credit or cancel them. So, reluctantly, they did. It was a disaster - the new producer had made a mess. AND THEN the commissioning editor tried to make them abandon the format they had just been forced to adopt. BY HIM. Viewership dropped. The comm Ed cancelled the show and replaced it with a show he had been wanting to make for years "The Social with Craig Doyle" - Don't bother googling it, even the internet has forgotten it. It was a 'social media' chat show even though Craig wasn't on Twitter, and neither were any of the producers, both of whom had been fired from other jobs - but the comm ed liked them because they would do anything he asked, to try and keep their gig. The show was one of the worst things ever made by RTE and that's a low bar. It was about twitter, and they got their own twitter handle wrong on the first night. So the same commissioning Editor cancelled it. He then commissioned another Craig Doyle Show called Craig Doyle Live, and then replaced that with another Craig Doyle show. Before canceling that. This was after the first craig doyle show he'd commissioned, on rte1, had bombed and he'd cancelled that. And how did he cancel Craig's last show? By never phoning him. 4 different Craig Doyle shows cancelled - that's not how you make Good TV. If you believe in Craig, then you give him a show, and let it run for a year, and make it better. But no, the comm ed just did what he always did, and panicked, and burnt the place to the ground. So in the end there was no Craig Doyle Show. But what really is a shame is there was no Podge and Rodge. 10 years of them being the symbol of RTE - A prayer at Bedtime, then P&R show. After 10 years of them being zig and zag. All wrecked, so this comm ed could say it was his show. Podge & Rodge are gone, Craig Doyle has gone. The independent staff who worked hard to make those shows all gone. But the comm ed is still there. Still commissioning shows and cancelling them. I pass his office every day. So, I'm bringing a new device into work so I can Tweet from this account occassionally. I will enjoy using RTE's Wi-Fi. Want to know how how secure RTE is? The Fair City Wi-fi log on name and password used to be "Fair City" and "Fair City". That last long story - thanks to my new bff on the 3rd floor for the deets. OK everyone is having a meltdown in here, bye for now Walking around RTE, lot more people on Twitter than usual. Something happening? The Indo is going to run an article about this. I haven't given any information or talked to them. When every news organisation in the country had water meters or he who cannot be named on front page, they'd mysteriously feature something else. That's not journalism. Everyone here is going nuts. Thanks to my colleagues who have DMd me stories. I'll be verifying before posting the ones I don't have direct experience of. Thanks for the 100 Dms asking. Sorry but won't be talking about which presenters are playing away or that kinda stuff. Profoundly Disloyal. Sorry I was away, someone was trying to hack me. This is now being input by a colleague in a different jurisdiction and routed through TOR. Ridiculous. RTE are considering hiring a PI to find out who I am. Consider that. The national broadcaster, using licence fee money, to track a whistleblower. Who is just trying to show what needs to change to save the organisation. How does @rtenews; view unmasking whistleblowers? How does the NUJ? Rather than address the issues, just destroy the person airing them. So I have been busy, there is a second account with 500 tweets written, ready to send. If I lose access to this account. All I want to do is show the things that need to change to save a broadcaster that is vital for Ireland. Profound disloyalty is staying quiet. I'm disgusted. I would ask if anyone values this, to contact rte, or their local reps. I have been contacted by over 50 people inside RTE. I have been contaced by people in news, current affairs, sport, entertainment, it, editing, lighting, radio, internet with stories and supporting me. Are they all profoundly disloyal - we who have given our lives to an organisation? Who care about it? I am heartbroken. I am sad and scared.
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