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Incident on London Underground

Witchie

Just saw on BBC News that there had been some sort of possible explosion on the underground. People apparently coming out with burns on their faces.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4887032/Explosion-underground-train-south-London.html

That was first link I saw.

Hope everyone is OK.

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Captain Obvious

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

And it's all hush hush. No info released, something weird is going on.
Trump hinted at such, must be a very embarrassing situation for UK.
This guy is being protected

Are you not on the Scotland Yard mailing list?

[Deleted User]

The Fake Sheikh wrote: »

The media won't have the info if it's being withheld. Not saying it is though.

Of course they're withholding information. That's how investigations work.

Widdershins

Billy86 wrote: »

I'm not saying they're protecting neo Nazi terrorists, I'm saying there are reasons why they do and do not release info sooner or later (or rather why info is or is not released to them, because you're correct that paper sales/clicks/viewers are typically their only loyalty, and as AH shows us there is far more Muslim terror attacks than other forms) - we've seen details released quickly and slowly for various different kinds of attacks. What I'm saying is the idea that if he were John Smith, his info would have been out there immediately for just that reason is nonsense, basically.

FYP :P

511

Billy86 wrote: »

Manchester attackers were out very quickly.

Wasn't information about him leaked by the US?

BorneTobyWilde

Deleted User wrote: »

Of course they're withholding information. That's how investigations work.

Only if he's an immigrant. Typically if they are radialized citizens their info is quickly out there.
Something more to this. Possible it's someone who slipped in and was welcomed with open arms, that would be embarrassing for UK.

BorneTobyWilde

511 wrote: »

Wasn't information about him leaked by the US?

He was British though.

ceadaoin.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Only if he's an immigrant. Typically if they are radialized citizens their info is quickly out there.
Something more to this. Possible it's someone who slipped in and was welcomed with open arms, that would be embarrassing for UK.

Only 18, maybe someone who came in with the child refugees? That would be embarrassing and anger a lot of people

[Deleted User]

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Only if he's an immigrant. Typically if they are radialized citizens their info is quickly out there.
Something more to this. Possible it's someone who slipped in and was welcomed with open arms, that would be embarrassing for UK.

Ulysses Gaze

Well the house raided is owned by a couple that have taken in hundreds of children. Including refugees from war zones in the Middle East.

ceadaoin.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Well the house raided is owned by a couple that have taken in hundreds of children. Including refugees from war zones in the Middle East.

Seems likely then and maybe he isnt even 18 at all like some of the others obviously weren't

It's not tinfoil hat stuff to think that the authorities would be reluctant to release his info if true, it's going to cause a huge backlash against refugees

PuppyMcPupFace

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Seems likely then and maybe he isnt even 18 at all like some of the others obviously weren't

It's not tinfoil hat stuff to think that the authorities would be reluctant to release his info if true, it's going to cause a huge backlash against refugees

And so there bloody well should be!

"Vulnerable kiddies" - most of them could have led a line out for Leinster.

BillyBobBS

Doesn't make a difference if he's a refugee or not imo. To be honest i think a bigger issue is British born Muslims commiting acts of terror despite living in the UK all their life.

PuppyMcPupFace

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Doesn't make a difference if he's a refugee or not imo. To be honest i think a bigger issue is British born Muslims commiting acts of terror despite living in the UK all their life.

Wish I could thank this post more than once.

Abu94

Uriel. wrote: »

Given there was an incident albeit unconfirmed in terms of what it is and given the fact that the UK has been a target for terrorism reasonably regularly and in the recent past and given all of the other incidents around Europe recently I don't think I'd be laughing at people being concerned and jumping to conclusions/fear.

It's easy to be laughing at people from Ireland and of course it's even easier to laugh at such people from Ireland while sitting behind a keyboard.

Can you look at how many people die from terrorism in all of Europe and how many die from just suicide just in Ireland. Nobody gives a **** about suicide even though the numbers are extreme but when a terrorist blows up a train and kills 5 people then people are outraged. Stalin was 100% right when he said. ''A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.' '
Nobody cares about the 300 people that kill themselves by suicide yet when a terrorist kills a few people then the whole world is outraged. Completely illogical and very annoying to see this behaviour from sheep.

tomwaterford

Abu94 wrote: »

Can you look at how many people die from terrorism in all of Europe and how many die from just suicide just in Ireland. Nobody gives a **** about suicide even though the numbers are extreme but when a terrorist blows up a train and kills 5 people then people are outraged. Stalin was 100% right when he said. ''A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.' '
Nobody cares about the 300 people that kill themselves by suicide yet when a terrorist kills a few people then the whole world is outraged. Completely illogical and very annoying to see this behaviour from sheep.

Maybe because suicide is a personal choice?

[Deleted User]

Abu94 wrote: »

Nobody cares about the 300 people that kill themselves by suicide yet when a terrorist kills a few people then the whole world is outraged. Completely illogical and very annoying to see this behaviour from sheep.

You might be better pointing out that people lose attention too quickly regardless the manner of the deaths.

If the terrorism attacks stopped completely today, most people would say it's wonderful and then go back to living their lives.. the governments would lower the threat ratings and the police/militaries would be downsized once more. Oh, there might be a few memorials, a few news stories of memory walls of people killed, but it wouldn't be news anymore. And therefore most people wouldn't care.

WHIP IT!

Abu94 wrote: »

Can you look at how many people die from terrorism in all of Europe and how many die from just suicide just in Ireland. Nobody gives a **** about suicide even though the numbers are extreme but when a terrorist blows up a train and kills 5 people then people are outraged. Stalin was 100% right when he said. ''A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.' '
Nobody cares about the 300 people that kill themselves by suicide yet when a terrorist kills a few people then the whole world is outraged. Completely illogical and very annoying to see this behaviour from sheep.

Absolute rubbish. Suicide and Mental Health are constantly talked about these days. It's every wannabe celebrity's go-to subject when they want to pad out their social media stats and gain a few likes... one or two have literally knocked a career out of it.

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't be outraged when a terrorist "blows up a train and kills five people"??

Ulysses Gaze

Abu94 wrote: »

Can you look at how many people die from terrorism in all of Europe and how many die from just suicide just in Ireland. Nobody gives a **** about suicide even though the numbers are extreme but when a terrorist blows up a train and kills 5 people then people are outraged. Stalin was 100% right when he said. ''A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.' '
Nobody cares about the 300 people that kill themselves by suicide yet when a terrorist kills a few people then the whole world is outraged. Completely illogical and very annoying to see this behaviour from sheep.

Intent. Look it up.

A suicide is an intent to kill yourself only. This is tragic but ultimately the person makes a choice to harm only themselves.

A suicide bombing means that the bomber means to kill themselves and other innocent people.

See the difference?

Abu94

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. Suicide and Mental Health are constantly talked about these days. It's every wannabe celebrity's go-to subject when they want to pad out their social media stats and gain a few likes... one or two have literally knocked a career out of it.

Are you suggesting that people shouldn't be outraged when a terrorist "blows up a train and kills five people"??

Suicide, deaths from car accidents, assaults. All of them cause far more deaths just in 1 country than terrorism causes in all of Europe. You will not see it being talked about on every single news channel every day because people don't give a **** but pretend to care when a few people die from a terrorist attack.

Abu94

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Intent. Look it up.

A suicide is an intent to kill yourself only. This is tragic but ultimately the person makes a choice to harm only themselves.

A suicide bombing means that the bomber means to kill themselves and other innocent people.

See the difference?

Yep but the number of deaths from terrorism are so tiny they are not even existent compared to other deaths.

The_Kew_Tour

It's the fear it brings and the devastation. You're missing the fact too that hundreds and thousands suffer from distress from being in the vacinity and many others suffer injuries, some life changing. It changes people's perceptions and creates divides.

Add in the fact that it is happening more and more and if we let them just run around us it's going be more then just tiny numbers.

Abu94

Btw there will never be a terrorist attack in Ireland because Ireland does not DIRECTLY attack middle eastern countries like UK, France and other big players who bomb the **** out of middle east and kill innocents which causes them to seek revenge and bomb European countries but let's ignore the root of the problem and focus on the irrelevant right?

The_Kew_Tour

Abu94 wrote: »

Btw there will never be a terrorist attack in Ireland because Ireland does not DIRECTLY attack middle eastern countries like UK, France and other big players who bomb the **** out of middle east and kill innocents which causes them to seek revenge and bomb European countries but let's ignore the root of the problem and focus on the irrelevant right?

Big shout out to Sweden.

Abu94

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

It's the fear it brings and the devastation. You're missing the fact too that hundreds and thousands suffer from distress from being in the vacinity and many others suffer injuries, some life changing. It changes people's perceptions and creates divides.

Add in the fact that it is happening more and more and if we let them just run around us it's going be more then just tiny numbers.

Then stop bombing the middle east. Why would Europe be terrorised if they never invaded the middle east? For no reason?

WHIP IT!

Abu94 wrote: »

Suicide, deaths from car accidents, assaults. All of them cause far more deaths just in 1 country than terrorism causes in all of Europe. You will not see it being talked about on every single news channel every day because people don't give a **** but pretend to care when a few people die from a terrorist attack.

So, out of curiosity... at what stage do you feel terrorist attacks are "newsworthy"?

SSr0

You've heard it here first lads, we're grand, nothing at all to worry about.
Must tell AGS and G2 that there is nothing to worry about. Cheers for the heads up.

The_Kew_Tour

Abu94 wrote: »

Then stop bombing the middle east. Why would Europe be terrorised if they never invaded the middle east? For no reason?

Oh I could not agree more with you there. I'm total anti blowing **** out of any man woman or child.

You won't meet a bigger poster on here who has voiced that concern then me.

2 wrongs don't make a right though......

Abu94

WHIP IT! wrote: »

So, out of curiosity... at what stage do you feel terrorist attacks are "newsworthy"?

All the time but it should be given as much attention as a car accident as similar amount of deaths are caused.

Abu94

SSr0 wrote: »

You've heard it here first lads, we're grand, nothing at all to worry about.
Must tell AGS and G2 that there is nothing to worry about. Cheers for the heads up.

I know you are being sarcastic but you are actually right.

WHIP IT!

Abu94 wrote: »

All the time but it should be given as much attention as a car accident as similar amount of deaths are caused.

Are you actually saying these words??

Should a person dying because of an accident at home be given the same media attention as a murder? Do you understand the difference between an accident and murder??