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High Noon with George Hook.

kneemos

A full ten minutes to get to the Muslims,and now it's Rugby.Not much has changed.

Sounds in good form anyway.

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DickSwiveller

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Hook does hypocrisy and ignorance far better than most.

I'm amazed that Hook's listenership numbers aren't far more than the official figures, considering the huge amount listeners/supporters who've come out of the woodwork in the past few days on this thread, most of whom have never posted anything previously about his radio shows - be it The Right Hook or High Noon.

What's that got to do with anything?

Harry Angstrom

Drumpot wrote: »

There is no one person or media outlet in this world immune from Hypocrisy or ignorance. I imagine you are regularly disappointed.

Hook does hypocrisy and ignorance far better than most.

DickSwiveller wrote: »

It's not compulsory to listen to him. I think you're looking to be annoyed.

I'm amazed that Hook's listenership numbers aren't far more than the official figures, considering the huge amount listeners/supporters who've come out of the woodwork in the past few days on this thread, most of whom have never posted anything previously about his radio shows - be it The Right Hook or High Noon.

DickSwiveller

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

No, how good it is to listen to a show where he doesn't continuously denigrate cyclists even though he himself has been fined for speeding offences, or where he never misses any opportunity to have a pop at people who took a stand against water charges while conveniently ignoring the fact that his boss had skin in the game, or ranting about vaccines that he has sweet fcuk all knowledge about. I'm all for differing opinions, it's the gross hypocrisy and ignorance that I don't like.

It's not compulsory to listen to him. I think you're looking to be annoyed.

Drumpot

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

No, how good it is to listen to a show where he doesn't continuously denigrate cyclists even though he himself has been fined for speeding offences, or where he never misses any opportunity to have a pop at people who took a stand against water charges while conveniently ignoring the fact that his boss had skin in the game, or ranting about vaccines that he has sweet fcuk all knowledge about. I'm all for differing opinions, it's the gross hypocrisy and ignorance that I don't like.

There is no one person or media outlet in this world immune from Hypocrisy or ignorance. I imagine you are regularly disappointed.

Vorenus400

ballsymchugh wrote: »

do you really get that from the music slot? i always thought they were grand with each other, just trying to get rises and laughs where George thinks anything before the mid 80s is probably shyte, and Bill using the slot to show him he's wrong. May have been overly nice today, but i wouldn't have said he *wasn't* nice before.

I would say George plays the blow hard, Bill doesnt seem to mind. But it gets very repetitive when its done every week.

I think George is capable of much better. There was a while ago where George was saying all classical music was terrible and Buddy Holly was the peak of musical perfection. I know its all for show but some times George just shouts people down rather than explaining. Its very interesting when he mentions a song that is close to his heart and the memories it evokes.

ballsymchugh

Vorenus400 wrote: »

If you listened to the show today then you would have heard the essential song section. I cant remember the last time George was that nice to Bill hughes. Usually (for show) he is argumentative and puts down everthing bill says but today he was very cordial.

Also seems to have put more research into the show and discussion

do you really get that from the music slot? i always thought they were grand with each other, just trying to get rises and laughs where George thinks anything before the mid 80s is probably shyte, and Bill using the slot to show him he's wrong. May have been overly nice today, but i wouldn't have said he *wasn't* nice before.

mikep

I was happy to see Hollands piece today as I believe barring preople from expressing their opinions is a dangerous road to go down.
In fairness to Hook when I used to listen to him on drivetime he often would bring people on to counter his view where he had gone off on a rant and there were those who disagreed with him
Not many in Irish media would allow that..

Vorenus400

DeadHand wrote: »

Ah yes, how good it is to go through your day without having to confront anything so upsetting as a different opinion.

If you listened to the show today then you would have heard the essential song section. I cant remember the last time George was that nice to Bill hughes. Usually (for show) he is argumentative and puts down everthing bill says but today he was very cordial.

Also seems to have put more research into the show and discussion

Calhoun

quintana76 wrote: »

See what RTE did by bringing on Quinn with Coppinger. It is obvious that in certain circles (RTE, IT) Quinn is portrayed as far right, (mainly because he speaks up for the RC Church).

It was a subtle (not so subtle) attempt to equate opponents of the witch hunt against Hook with being right wing.

It is media manipulation of opinion to their own ends. There are many others they could have brought on who did not have the same reputation thrust on to them by the media.

Coppinger came off a bit hysterical at times and hypoctical, she accused Quinn of shouting her down while she did the same.

Her main point don't rape courses for men = good, telling both men and women to be safe when going out on night drinking = bad.
Its beggars belief how someone like this gets into the Dail, i am so glad her cohort are a minority as we would live in a very thought controlled space if they ever got real power.

Harry Angstrom

DeadHand wrote: »

Ah yes, how good it is to go through your day without having to confront anything so upsetting as a different opinion.

No, how good it is to listen to a show where he doesn't continuously denigrate cyclists even though he himself has been fined for speeding offences, or where he never misses any opportunity to have a pop at people who took a stand against water charges while conveniently ignoring the fact that his boss had skin in the game, or ranting about vaccines that he has sweet fcuk all knowledge about. I'm all for differing opinions, it's the gross hypocrisy and ignorance that I don't like.

quintana76

See what RTE did by bringing on Quinn with Coppinger. It is obvious that in certain circles (RTE, IT) Quinn is portrayed as far right, (mainly because he speaks up for the RC Church).

It was a subtle (not so subtle) attempt to equate opponents of the witch hunt against Hook with being right wing.

It is media manipulation of opinion to their own ends. There are many others they could have brought on who did not have the same reputation thrust on to them by the media.

ballsymchugh

Larbre34 wrote: »

Coppinger and David Quinn were on SOR to discuss the Hook situation earlier.

Id be no fan of Quinn's faith based convictions but he said roughly what I have said about this, that you would always warn your own kids to limit the risk to themselves first and foremost.

Coppinger then turned around and called him part of the problem for doing so, for perpetuating the blame culture. She actually made we want to puke, the daft wagon. In fairness to SOR he read out some text that the thought police of the 50's are now just as bad on the opposite side of the spectrum. Coppinger didnt like that one bit.

according to Coppinger, not liking Ivana Bacik is one of the reasons as why George is a misogynist. Must mean i'm fierce misogynistic then, a long with the people of Dun Laoghaire or wherever that have repeatedly chosen NOT to elect her in any general election she's ever stood in.

DickSwiveller

Faugheen wrote: »

It wasn't a text. It was an opinion piece from Kitty Holland in the Irish Times (of all places) where I think she has spoken the most sense out of anyone.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/george-hook-should-be-challenged-not-silenced-1.3219952?mode=amp

For anyone who didn't see it.

Am I missing something? She didn't say what Labre quoted her as saying.

DeadHand

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It's been great listening to High Noon in recent days. Contrite George is a different animal to ranting George. No outbursts about cyclists, vaccines, water charge protestors blah blah blah. He reminds me of one of those annoying little dogs who's forever chasing cars, and then one day gets a belt in the face from a wheel.

Ah yes, how good it is to go through your day without having to confront anything so upsetting as a different opinion.

Faugheen

Larbre34 wrote: »

Coppinger and David Quinn were on SOR to discuss the Hook situation earlier.

Id be no fan of Quinn's faith based convictions but he said roughly what I have said about this, that you would always warn your own kids to limit the risk to themselves first and foremost.

Coppinger then turned around and called him part of the problem for doing so, for perpetuating the blame culture. She actually made we want to puke, the daft wagon. In fairness to SOR he read out some text that the thought police of the 50's are now just as bad on the opposite side of the spectrum. Coppinger didnt like that one bit.

It wasn't a text. It was an opinion piece from Kitty Holland in the Irish Times (of all places) where I think she has spoken the most sense out of anyone.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/george-hook-should-be-challenged-not-silenced-1.3219952?mode=amp

For anyone who didn't see it.

suicide_circus

Of course she didn't, the truth is often unpalatable

Larbre34

Coppinger and David Quinn were on SOR to discuss the Hook situation earlier.

Id be no fan of Quinn's faith based convictions but he said roughly what I have said about this, that you would always warn your own kids to limit the risk to themselves first and foremost.

Coppinger then turned around and called him part of the problem for doing so, for perpetuating the blame culture. She actually made we want to puke, the daft wagon. In fairness to SOR he read out some text that the thought police of the 50's are now just as bad on the opposite side of the spectrum. Coppinger didnt like that one bit.

SafeSurfer

hotmail.com wrote: »

If you're surprised that most people in Ireland have had one night stands at some point, then I think we get a glimpse into the minds of Hook supporters.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if most people in Ireland have had a one night stand at some point.
But that's not what I was calling into question.
The assertion was that 99% of people had which is clearly nonsense.
I presume I don't have to explain the nuances between most, 51% and 99%

PeterTheNinth

Apparently they have had to rename the segment of the show that was once called "Here Come The Girls". In future this section will now be referred to as "There Go The Girls".

[Deleted User]

Bazzy wrote: »

Fully Agree my original point was around victim blaming and in this instance I am the victim but they could only see it because I had clear glass so is it my fault for having clear glass.

It has digressed from my original post and it is disrespectful to the original subject so I will bow out.

And yet again you blabber on about fault. You're the one putting words in people's mouths even though you state you take safety measures in your everyday life

[Deleted User]

Bazzy wrote: »

I do but its my wallet and my car presuming the car was locked what gives someone the right to help themselves ?

is it my fault?

No it's not but you increase the likelihood and risk by doing so

Bazzy

optogirl wrote: »

Comparing leaving your wallet on the front seat and it getting taken to being a woman on a night out going home with one man and being raped by another. Not helpful.

Fully Agree my original point was around victim blaming and in this instance I am the victim but they could only see it because I had clear glass so is it my fault for having clear glass.

It has digressed from my original post and it is disrespectful to the original subject so I will bow out.

Jobs OXO

Bazzy wrote: »

I do but its my wallet and my car presuming the car was locked what gives someone the right to help themselves ?

is it my fault?

Who said they have the right? It's your fault you increased the risk

[Deleted User]

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

It's been great listening to High Noon in recent days. Contrite George is a different animal to ranting George. No outbursts about cyclists, vaccines, water charge protestors blah blah blah. He reminds me of one of those annoying little dogs who's forever chasing cars, and then one day gets a belt in the face from a wheel.

So boring as **** and as bland as all the other mid morning shows?

Bazzy

Jobs OXO wrote: »

Do you think it would be a better idea not to leave your wallet on the front seat perhaps?

I do but its my wallet and my car presuming the car was locked what gives someone the right to help themselves ?

is it my fault?

SEPT 23 1989

DOB is sure to fire him now:D

Harry Angstrom

It's been great listening to High Noon in recent days. Contrite George is a different animal to ranting George. No outbursts about cyclists, vaccines, water charge protestors blah blah blah. He reminds me of one of those annoying little dogs who's forever chasing cars, and then one day gets a belt in the face from a wheel.

suicide_circus

George is a thorn in the side if the echo chamber and must be eliminated

walshb

DickSwiveller wrote: »

Fantastic news. Some unexpected benefits are coming from this incident. Won't have to listen to Brute Coppinger and Richard Boiled Carrott anymore - and the alleged singer Mary Coughlan. Great stuff!

They really are some shower!

PeterTheNinth

Anne Doyle has joined the baying mob. Albeit she's not looking for him to be fired.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/1531621/veteran-rte-news-anchor-anne-doyle-slams-george-hooks-incomprehensible-rape-comments/

I'm still very surprised that Hook is still there. Maybe he's just toughing it out til the weekend before deciding either way. As I said before, even if he does stay on, he's gonna be so careful in the future that he wont actually be able to do the job. So it's a no win situation for him, and the listeners. I'd say he might release a statement announcing that he's leaving at the weekend.