Obvious Otter wrote: » We don't have standards. We're at the mercy of snowflake faux outrage and the pc mob who want to sterilise debate on all issues. If anything it shows the insecurity of these people. Why should society pander to their every need? George Hook didn't blame the victim.
hullaballoo wrote: » Take it from me that my knowledge of constitutional law is better than that of Wikipedia There is no right to freedom of speech in Ireland.
hamburgham wrote: » Newstalk would gain a lot of respect if they dared to come out in support of George distancing themselves from his opinions whatever they might be
constitutionus wrote: » actually
hullaballoo wrote: » There's no right to free speech in this country. This is not the USA.
Freedom of speech is protected by Article 40.6.1 of the Irish constitution. However the article qualifies this right, providing that it may not be used to undermine "public order or morality or the authority of the State". Furthermore, the constitution explicitly requires that the publication of "blasphemous, seditious, or indecent matter" be a criminal offence, leading the government to pass a new blasphemy law on 8 July 2009.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Scandalous if GH is forced from his job and shocking that there are so many snowflakes in Newstalk that are 'offended'. Really is lowest common denominator stuff, and a bad situation for free and intelligent discussion in this country. The only silver lining, and in a way I would like if it happened, would be that if here were dismissed, he could come out openly and discuss the whole mess. The country could have a proper debate on mob mentality and political correctness gone absolutely off the charts, to the detriment of free expression and debate. He could state that his 'apology' was a stock one that he was hounded into in an attempt to hang on to his job, but that in reality it was nonsense, he believes what he says, is entitled to say it, and other should be adult enough to be able to hear it without going off the deep end. I despair for this country sometimes. Really.
The Specialist wrote: » Free speech is free speech, whether you find the content inspiring or insipid. There are no if's or buts - free speech can't exist with limitations of moral censorship.
reg114 wrote: » "Mis-speak " ... ? No Hook knew exactly what he was expounding. In fact Hook is a very articulate orator always reminding me of an old school priest semonising from the pulpit. Hook did not mis-speak, Hook has form regarding women ,in fact listen to Coopers audio from a tv interview Hook did a couple of years ago where he tore strips off the woman presenter. Hook is old school in a dangerous way, because he embodies an antiquated agenda and emboldens those insecure enough to want to see the status quo maintained. That status quo sees zero women presenting on 98fm, fm 104 , Today fm, 4FM, Q102 and Nova from 7 am to 7 pm... Not a single woman.. Now there is something radically wrong here.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » Scandalous if GH is forced from his job and shocking that there are some many snowflakes in Newstalk that are 'offended'. Really is lowest common denominator stuff, and a bad situation for free and intelligent discussion in this country. The only silver lining, and in a way I would like if it happened, would be that if here were dismissed, he could come out openly and discuss the whole mess. The country could have a proper debate on mob mentality and political correctness gone absolutely off the charts, to the detriment of free expression and debate. He could state that his 'apology' was a stock one that he was hounded into in an attempt to hang on to his job, but that in reality it was nonsense, he believes what he says, is entitled to say it, and other should be adult enough to be able to hear it without going off the depend. I despair for this country sometimes. Really.
Faugheen wrote: » He'll be replaced by Sarah McInerney if anyone. Get Hook out, bring a woman in. Two birds, one stone as far as they're concerned.
LordSutch wrote: » That's for sure. Hook had a whole lifetime of experiences to call upon in his ramblings, many of which were not confined to this little island, hence he brought in something that nobody else has on the airwaves here. He certainly has an amazing memory of old films, actors & actresses, politicians from the 40s, 50s, 60s, a great knowledge about many things from many spheres, from WWI to WWII, from Greta garbo to Marilyn Monroe, from Kennedy to Churchill, from Cuba & Casto, to the Moon landings, to anything & everything he had an opinion on ... Not always PC, but at least he was outspoken & entertaining. He'll be missed.
PeterTheNinth wrote: You know, when you are pretty much the only person on the radio who is prepared to say anything controversial or ask the difficult questions, it is going to happen that you occasionally mis-speak. He has already apologised for using the word blame, but because he is not an avid liberal like everybody at that station, the knives are out for him.
Obvious Otter wrote: A question isn't a statement. He's apologising because people have took his question as blaming the victim, which it was not. How many times does this have to be explained?
PeterTheNinth wrote: » God all these people should be ashamed of themselves.. One says something grandiose and self righteous in criticism of George Hook on Twitter, then another one of the w*nkers retweets it on, then another, and then they all get in to a conversation about how great they both f**king are... Absolute t0ssers.. And these are the same people who would speak about kids bullying each other on social media.
super_furry wrote: Really? You're going to make me do this again.....
PeterTheNinth wrote: » You know, when you are pretty much the only person on the radio who is prepared to say anything controversial or ask the difficult questions, it is going to happen that you occasionally mis-speak. He has already apologised for using the word blame, but because he is not an avid liberal like everybody at that station, the knives are out for him.
Obvious Otter wrote: » A question isn't a statement. He's apologising because people have took his question as blaming the victim, which it was not. How many times does this have to be explained?
Obvious Otter wrote: » What he said was:
"It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims or that bear any responsibility in the crimes committed against them .
The Specialist wrote: » Ridiculous statement - you are content to be dictated to as to what you can or can't think/verbalise only to prevent people with views that offend you from speaking their opinion? Sounds like a boring world to me.
Sleeper12 wrote: » It was a charity gig. She was in the studio on behalf of the charity
super_furry wrote: » Really? You're going to make me do this again..... George Hook said this live on the radio: "Is there no blame now to the person who puts themselves in danger?" Then he said this by way of apology: "I made comments about rape on the program which are totally inappropriate and unacceptable, and I should never have made them......."It was wrong of me to suggest that any blame could be attributed to those victims or that they bear any responsibility in the crimes committed against them." And there are STILL people arguing here that he didn't blame rape victims for being raped.
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