hotmail.com wrote: » Hook was never a broadcaster anyway or a journalist. He's been getting away with it for years. The same Hook supporters are usually the ones that bring up Muslim attitudes to women when Muslims are being discussed.
Conservative wrote: » The biggest ratings failure in Newstalk and possibly all of Irish radio? Why on earth would he be favourite?
DickSwiveller wrote: Yawn
reg114 wrote: » Conservative wrote: » For leading a media witch hunt against a 76 year old man who dared to question whether an adult should take personal responsibility! I reckon I could name at least 10 of them quite easily. It is a disgusting way to treat a colleague who has done more for Newstalk than the majority of them combined. There have clearly been ill feelings since he went back on his retirement. Other than Pat doing the changeover you rarely hear him interact with any other NT staff who are not reading the news. It was quite common on Right Hook. He hasn't been in studio with Moncrieff for at least 6 months.. Because if a rape victim took personal responsibility she / he wouldnt be raped??? The crime of rape has nothing to do with taking responsibility ever, the fact you think it does illustrates your total misunderstanding of rape, responsibility and this thread. You probably think the earth is this flat too.
Conservative wrote: » For leading a media witch hunt against a 76 year old man who dared to question whether an adult should take personal responsibility! I reckon I could name at least 10 of them quite easily. It is a disgusting way to treat a colleague who has done more for Newstalk than the majority of them combined. There have clearly been ill feelings since he went back on his retirement. Other than Pat doing the changeover you rarely hear him interact with any other NT staff who are not reading the news. It was quite common on Right Hook. He hasn't been in studio with Moncrieff for at least 6 months..
irishfeen wrote: » I don't know why everyone in here is turning on Chris Donoghue, what Hook said was disgusting and a step too far. What did the expect Donoghue to say? If he said anything different I would have been more worried.
Faugheen wrote: » My opinion is that Hook went too far, but Donoghue was far too quick to jump on his back with a mob already calling for Hook's head. He then followed up by thanking people for messages and so on. Clearly happy with the attention he got. I'd be very interested to know what the atmosphere towards him is in there. If he's happy to turn the knife on Hook then others would be just as wary, I reckon.
Itssoeasy wrote: » Just because two thirds didn't sign the letter doesn't mean they don't agree with the sentiments of it.
Faugheen wrote: » irishfeen wrote: » I don't know why everyone in here is turning on Chris Donoghue, what Hook said was disgusting and a step too far. What did the expect Donoghue to say? If he said anything different I would have been more worried. My opinion is that Hook went too far, but Donoghue was far too quick to jump on his back with a mob already calling for Hook's head. He then followed up by thanking people for messages and so on. Clearly happy with the attention he got. I'd be very interested to know what the atmosphere towards him is in there. If he's happy to turn the knife on Hook then others would be just as wary, I reckon.
Faugheen wrote: I'd be very interested to know what the atmosphere towards him is in there. If he's happy to turn the knife on Hook then others would be just as wary, I reckon.
Faugheen wrote: My opinion is that Hook went too far, but Donoghue was far too quick to jump on his back with a mob already calling for Hook's head.
Faugheen wrote: He then followed up by thanking people for messages and so on. Clearly happy with the attention he got.
irishfeen wrote: » .... or else they all agree with him but didn't have the balls to come out and publically put Hook in his place.
super_furry wrote: » irishfeen wrote: » .... or else they all agree with him but didn't have the balls to come out and publically put Hook in his place. Indeed. Someone like Ciara Kelly who would usually be remarkably outspoken on social media about a situation like this, was conspicuously silent.
reg114 wrote: » Because if a rape victim took personal responsibility she / he wouldnt be raped??? The crime of rape has nothing to do with taking responsibility ever, the fact you think it does illustrates your total misunderstanding of rape, responsibility and this thread. You probably think the earth is this flat too.
hotmail.com wrote: » Offended?
hotmail.com wrote: » One criticism of the media is that it does not criticise itself. Here's a situation where a fellow staff member from within a media organisation is publicly criticising another staff member. That's good?
kevinkilbane wrote: » Also, can anyone explain to me, what the Irish times has against george? They have had articles up since Friday against his comments. This morning, Fintan Otoole and Laura Slattery hammered him, Laura said "Dalata distancing from Hook is progress again". She dislikes him from an 2010 event and obviously sticking the knife in. I thought she was Business, personal finance,media and advertising, not opinion contributor
DeanAustin wrote: » I'm pretty much on Hook's side in this but wouldn't condemn Donoghue. He's always come across as a very idealistic individual bordering on naive. I think his public stance was him taking a stand against something he felt was morally wrong. I disagree with him but wouldn't condemn him for having an opinion. If he said nothing in public and did it out of the glare of the public eye, he'd be called a snake in the grass. If he did nothing and ever offered an opinion on rape in the future he'd be pilloried for not speaking up now. If he waited a bit longer he'd be accused of waiting to see what way the wind was blowing. I believe he offered a genuine viewpoint and I'd admire him for having the courage of his convictions and take him at face value. Some people on here are judging Donoghue's motives, which none of us actually know, by their own low standards.
quintana76 wrote: » You never heard about the IT's super liberal bias?
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Well I suggested it could be 'the straw that broke the camel's back' for Denis O'Brien. But only if he was already thinking seriously about pulling the plug...
DeanAustin wrote: I'm pretty much on Hook's side in this but wouldn't condemn Donoghue.
Sleeper12 wrote: » I don't really get this at all. Hooks side is that he made a mistake and said something that was wrong. I don't think that's your position at all. Also to posters and people on Twitter, the more you say George was forced to apologise and doesn't mean it the more likely that he will be fired. Management are monitoring social media to see how the apology is going down with the public. If it's not being believed by the public then they will have to take action.
Lady Chatterton wrote: » Unfortunately, after today, I'm expecting George to announce his resignation before the week is out. I'd say he is a broken man after hearing that 20 of his colleagues want him to leave. That level of rejection must be awfully painful. I'm beginning to think that yesterdays' apology has backfired spectacularly on him, he would have been better off if he had clarified his remarks, making it 100% clear that rape is never the victims' fault and that his original intention was merely to encourage people to look out for themselves and their friends on a night out. I would say 85% of what he said was just old fashioned common sense, the stuff that lots of parents would say to their daughters and sons most weekends before they head into town. I'm deeply saddened at the level of bullying and abuse the man is being subjected to, how is this acceptable? Surely, we have reached a point where the bullying and the hatred being expressed is far worse than his clumsy comments? Going back the petition to remove George, I have a feeling that there are quite a few Newstalk presenters who feel very resentful towards George Hook, Ivan Yates and Pat Kenny because of the deals they've managed to negotiate for themselves...and today has a lot to do with opportunism. If you look back over the last few years, Ivan has left and returned to the station and other presenters have been moved out of their positions to accommodate him. George has also been facilitated, Moncrieff's programme has been shortened twice and Healy was shafted from Lunchtime to make way for High Noon. If George is sacked or made resign, it means that instantly a prime time slot becomes available for someone else - Chris, Sarah, Shane??... Moncrieff's programme with probably be extended and Jonathan Healy will more than likely come back to provide holiday cover. So many presenters stand to gain something if George leaves. I just wish he had retired last year and gone out on a high, The Right Hook was a cracking show, it's sad how things have turned out, I wish him well.