Funny how? wrote: » You mentioned that college courses are piss easy and no one fails through lack of intelligence, That's why I asked. You also mentioned that because computer science was only 300 points that's why there was/is a huge rate of failure and that is not simply the case.
marcus001 wrote: » Yeah, I spoke too hot the first time and clarified in the following post. Well, that's pure speculation on my part as to why comp sci has a high dropout rate. Maybe it's just deathly boring. I really don't care. It has nothing to do with the thread topic.
Funny how? wrote: » Nope it's incredibly difficult and not learning and regurgitatting information like the leaving cert. And to your 1st opening post the leaving cert had nothing to do with someones IQ or intelligence. Leaving cert is pointless. If you want to vote should have to sit through an online elearning exercise of the various parties and what they have to offer, what local councillors have to offer etc.and then be allowed to vote. Could be done from the comfort of your own home. Do you realize how stupid you sound with the 500 points? For the first job I went for I had my leaving cert results on it. Ive changes jobs three times after and no one gives a flying **** about the leaving cert. You might as well someone is not allowed to vote unless they have cisco exams, accoutancy exams. My mind boggles just how dumb you are. Maybe everyone should have do an IQ test before they vote. Your IQ has nothing to do with your knowledge and understanding of politics.
marcus001 wrote: » I'd also raise the voting age to 25.
Chuchote wrote: » Previous generations had to work things out for themselves. They were out playing all day and into the night after school. They built things. They did dangerous stuff that would have had their parents' hair on end if they'd known. They told each other wild stories, and played complex, rule-based games, with rhymes of many verses to accompany some of them. If they wanted to get somewhere they got on the bike and went, or walked. Or, when they were older, hitched a lift.
badboyblast wrote: » What a langer statement, doing good in school shows no reflection on you except you can remember stuff and chirp it out like a parrot , real life is about working hard and smart, keep hustling!!
marcus001 wrote: » So a bit like the leaving cert then...
marcus001 wrote: » Its not a perfect measure but its the best one we have. Not many people who get below 500 could be considered "smart".
pitifulgod wrote: » Not remotely, there's nothing in my day to day work life that is comparable to leaving cert... Eg in work life I have confidence in my abilities that I will continue to develop for the remainder of my career. Meanwhile the leaving cert, personally speaking made me doubtful of my intelligence even though in retrospect I wasn't an idiot.. I have a far more of a love of learning from university and my career. My work ethic did not develop out of the leaving cert that was more prone to creating anxieties to be honest.
marcus001 wrote: » Well for me, the leaving cert helped me to develop a work ethic. I had to be disciplined enough to make sacrifices and delay gratification for about 8 months of the year so that I could reap the benefits for the rest of my life and it was one of the most formative experiences of my life. Previous to that I was lazy, unmotivated, unfocused, never did homework, never paid attention etc. If it wasn't for the pressures of the leaving cert I don't know if I'd ever have developed that work ethic.
pitifulgod wrote: » Okay so that's one individual experience and as a result you think the only intelligent people are those who got 500 points or more. Do you think that's a rational conclusion?
marcus001 wrote: » How much more competent would our political class be if they were handpicked and held to account by the cognitive elite?
marcus001 wrote: » Where did I say that I believed that as a result of my individual experience with the leaving cert? I believe it because smart people tend to do well in exams, not because of something I experienced.
Chuchote wrote: » a) Smart people don't always do well in exams b) Smart people don't always take good decisions - choose a government and think about how the people in it have behaved and how smart they are or are not
baylah17 wrote: » I never sat my leaving but I have an Honours degree and a masters yet according to you I'm not competent to vote???
marcus001 wrote: » Did you steal them off someone's wall?
RayM wrote: » I'm not sure that ability to learn things off by heart is the best measure of a person's intelligence, tbh.
marcus001 wrote: » They tend to do better than people who aren't. They tend to make better decisions. These are tendencies, it doesn't mean they always do, but they tend to.
pitifulgod wrote: » You read like an elitist who has put far more value in the leaving cert than it is worth. I know people with despicable views that are uninformed who got well over 500 points. I also know people who didn't get on great in the leaving cert who have PhDs.
pjohnson wrote: » Most shocking part of the thread is OP is NOT a new account!
Samaris wrote: » I gotta admit, I'm pretty amused at the idea of using the Leaving Cert as something to be elitist about. Isn't that pretty much irrelevant once you'd moved on to the next stage? It's rather more important to do well in your college degree or apprenticeship once the LC has gotten you into it. It's a bit like swanking over the 11+. Important at the time and has an effect on the rest of your life, but not the be all and end all, especially at that age.
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