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Isn't multiculturalism great...

[Deleted User]

...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

And I thought, she'll grow up experiencing diversity and cultures that I could only dream of when I was a child in white Catholic Ireland in the late '70s and '80s. And it felt good.

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[Deleted User]

gitzy16v wrote:

Nah multiculturalism is not for me,if I want to experience different cultures Ill travel to different countries. Happy enough with our own culture and happy enough going somewhere new to experience new cultures.

I welcome it but I do find Muslim women dressed from head to toe in black with just their eyes peeping out a little creepy. It's something I'll have to get used to.
I remember the first time I was in London. There were so many black people. And blacker than id even seen. I couldn't help but stare. Same thing happened the first time I went to Greece ,I couldn't stop looking at the topless sunbathers. By the end of my holiday I wasn't even aware of the topless thing

MyStubbleItches

Multiculturalism is, in theory, brilliant. Food, food, food. Lots of different foods. Lots of different traditions? Maybe not so much. Lots of different religions? Definitely not so much.

The world is a big place,being open-armed to all and sundry sounds great but the reality is very different. I'd love,as most would I imagine, if we all got on but the reality is very different.

John_Rambo

gitzy16v wrote: »

Nah multiculturalism is not for me,if I want to experience different cultures Ill travel to different countries.
Happy enough with our own culture and happy enough going somewhere new to experience new cultures.

Like the thousands of Irish that helped build (physically and culturally) and continue to culturally influence New York, Chicago, Boston and other parts of the world.

Fair play to you. The Irish, great bunch of lads.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote:

Yep, from Kusadasi. Married to an Irish woman. Was bemoaning the fact that none of his kids speak Turkish and his Mum can't speak English.

I only asked because a Turkish shave is a"thing" it's a particular shave that includes head and face massage, singeing nasal and ear hair. Oh yeah, and the actual shave. I've seen that many Turkish barber shops I wasn't sure if they were actually Turkish or Irish offering Turkish shave.

gitzy16v

Nah multiculturalism is not for me,if I want to experience different cultures Ill travel to different countries.
Happy enough with our own culture and happy enough going somewhere new to experience new cultures.

bluewizard

tomwaterford wrote: »

Next you'll tell me your not a wizard

Can't say that.

[Deleted User]

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Was the barber actually Turkish? I see that many Turkish barbers around Dublin I'm beginning to think that maybe they are not all Turkish

Yep, from Kusadasi. Married to an Irish woman. Was bemoaning the fact that none of his kids speak Turkish and his Mum can't speak English.

Oh, as for the GAA thing, some of his kids play Gaelic Football. But as it's South Kerry, hurling isn't really an option.

Benjamin Buttons

smurgen wrote: »

Well Syria has one of the oldest civilizations in the world,the capital Demascus goes back to 6300 B.C. chances are alot Europeans can be traced back to that area.

I think you'll find that most Europeans can be traced back to Carlow.

smurgen

tomwaterford wrote: »

I was expecting it to be an isis joke

Wasn't a joke.that was the dude's wording.told him my lineage only goes as far east as Waterford.

JimmyMcGill

RustyNut wrote: »

Give up the pot man, the paranoia is getting to ya. They weren't talking about you, they have lives of their own.

Where did I say they were? Easy on the gange there bud.

Stell mal vor, du jetzt eine Kunde in meine Gastette bist, and Ich Deutsche mit mein Mitarbeiter rede. Du stehst dort wie ein Rustynut
die ganze Zeit Ich dein Bier vorbereite. Schòn nah?

That's 25 year old German dont bite my head off...

fryup

Sweetemotion wrote: »

People who think multiculturalism is great for Ireland are deluded loonies hiding their heads in the sand.

We don't have to look far too see how multiculturalism works out for western societies, Germany, Spain, Sweden, Paris. England.

Yeah it's great just fecking great.

shush! look at all the sexy women we have living here now, there's always positives

smurgen

John_Rambo wrote: »

A Syrian barber cut my kids hair. He looks like he's from Mayo, or Poland, or Bristol. Have a quick google on Syria's history. Fantastic mish-mash of of French Euro, Persian, Greek, Arab, Turk, Syriac and a lot more.

(I didn't know this till meeting this Syrian guy)

Well Syria has one of the oldest civilizations in the world,the capital Demascus goes back to 6300 B.C. chances are alot Europeans can be traced back to that area.

tomwaterford

John_Rambo wrote: »

A Syrian barber cut my kids hair. He looks like he's from Mayo, or Poland, or Bristol. Have a quick google on Syria's history. Fantastic mish-mash of of French Euro, Persian, Greek, Arab, Turk, Syriac and a lot more.

(I didn't know this till meeting this Syrian guy)

I was expecting it to be an isis joke

Sweetemotion

People who think multiculturalism is great for Ireland are deluded loonies hiding their heads in the sand.

We don't have to look far too see how multiculturalism works out for western societies, Germany, Spain, Sweden, Paris. England.

Yeah it's great just fecking great.

John_Rambo

Benjamin Buttons wrote: »

Wha?

A Syrian barber cut my kids hair. He looks like he's from Mayo, or Poland, or Bristol. Have a quick google on Syria's history. Fantastic mish-mash of of French Euro, Persian, Greek, Arab, Turk, Syriac and a lot more.

(I didn't know this till meeting this Syrian guy)

RustyNut

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

Went in for a breakfast roll the other morning. Ordered off an eastern European no bother, she turns around to her work colleague and speaks her native tongue for the duration of her serving me.
Gives me the roll without any interaction.

That **** annoys me. Big time.

Give up the pot man, the paranoia is getting to ya. They weren't talking about you, they have lives of their own.

Benjamin Buttons

smurgen wrote: »

Alot of kurdish when you ask them.came across a few syrians too.had one syrian barber ask me if i had any links to the middle east cause i was the head off his brother

Wha?

tomwaterford

smurgen wrote: »

if i had any links to the middle east cause i was the head off his brother

:eek:

smurgen

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Was the barber actually Turkish? I see that many Turkish barbers around Dublin I'm beginning to think that maybe they are not all Turkish

Alot of kurdish when you ask them.came across a few syrians too.had one syrian barber ask me if i had any links to the middle east cause i was the head off his brother

fryup

CalamariFritti wrote: »

Look lads. Its Saturday night, I'm in. The missus has the telly watching the tennis and I'm craving for a bit of entertainment. This thread isn't doing it for me the way its going. 5 pages in and its GAA vs footie. Wtf?

well there's always the wankin thread

John_Rambo

Fighting Tao wrote: »

If that was the case then why wasn't either everyone's, or, nobodies religion mentioned? Only Muslim was mentioned.

I don't know, maybe he didn't know the faith of the others he was in contact with. Maybe he hasn't met many muslims and this was his first contact with one. Either way, it's not something to get upset about.

It's going to be ok.

[Deleted User]

bluewizard wrote:

Well I'm "multicultural" - go ahead, tell me what's your problem with me.

You're not tall enough

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote:

...today I brought my daughter to the playground to meet Slovakian friends with their kids. Also met my cousin and his African partner and their little daughter. After that, I went to my Turkish Muslim barber and to her delight he produced a lollipop.

Was the barber actually Turkish? I see that many Turkish barbers around Dublin I'm beginning to think that maybe they are not all Turkish

yesto24

John_Rambo wrote: »

The man's just telling us of his positive experiences with people from different cultures in Ireland. That's all.

There's no need to read it a few times, no need to analyse, dissemble, accuse etc. It is what it is. Get over it.

That is my point. What did their culture bring to his experience that Irish people couldn't? Absolutely nothing. Kids playing, someone selling a service and giving a kid a lollipop.
At best it is an example of multiethnic and not multiculturalism. All these other people from different countries getting on with it in Ireland and not being a dick. Just like most Irish people did before mass immigration and most Irish people do now.
If anything it's what most of the "racists" on this site want. You know come here legally and integrate with the people here into Irish culture.

Noel82

As long as the people coming in embrace our Country and integrate well I'm fine with whatever. Unfortunately there's one group in particular that are causing problems throughout Europe and it's not worth it.

fryup

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

Went in for a breakfast roll the other morning. Ordered off an eastern European no bother, she turns around to her work colleague and speaks her native tongue for the duration of her serving me.
Gives me the roll without any interaction.

That **** annoys me. Big time.

Polish i bet ya,

ya i don't like that either you always get the feeling their slagging you off...must get to learn some polish phrases

Fighting Tao

John_Rambo wrote: »

The man's just telling us of his positive experiences with people from different cultures in Ireland. That's all.

There's no need to read it a few times, no need to analyse, dissemble, accuse etc. It is what it is. Get over it.

If that was the case then why wasn't either everyone's, or, nobodies religion mentioned? Only Muslim was mentioned.

smurgen

fryup wrote: »

they're an example of the worst type of irish narrow-mindedness ...you had the ban, no foreign (brit) games in their stadia, maybe they've opened up in recent times but their track record isn't great

People of all beliefs and colours play hurling and football.it's great to see.

JimmyMcGill

Samara Dazzling Thug wrote: »

I fully accept that and I equally get pee'd off when a couple of people I know speak to each other in Irish when I and others are in their company. It's bad manners no matter what your nationality/culture.

Not so bad when it's not in a professional capacity, still very rude though.
I remember in the 90s me and an irish work colleague in Berlin talking in english while waiting for a brotchen in the bakery one morning.
The owner told us to speak in German or get out, so we spoke German for the rest of the duration.

I didn't agree then, I can see his point now.

ThisRegard

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

If anything the opening post is a load of patronizing nonsense and is exactly the type of ****e that pisses people off about supposed "diversity". Praising someone who happens to be different for doing nothing more than the average born and raised irishman would do i.e be pleasant.

So what your saying is that they behaved just like you'd expect every other Irish person to so are no different than the rest of us? So what's your problem?