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All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

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Pictures and write up here but I think this is a fantastic looking seven-seater. A complete redesign from the previous version. So much so that I'm surprised that they called it a 5008.

It will also include a fold-up electric bike that is stored in a slot in the boot!!

It will be interesting to see how much it is here.

More here:
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/peugeot-s-5008-becomes-an-suv-1.2782809

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BTH

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Went for a test drive in a Skoda Kodiaq today, 2.0 TDI 150BHP Style model with 7 seats.

I've recently test drove the 5008 and there is no comparison for me. My wife put it best, the 5008 just felt "Tinny". The Skoda felt a lot more solid, and whilst the spec and extras come in 3k above the GT Line the Skoda is worth the extra bang for the buck.

I just felt a lot more steady in the Skoda and it handled well.

It's a shame about the lead time but I reckon I'll put in an order in the next few weeks for the Skoda.

Pity it's only got 6.5 seats.

sReq | uTeK

BTH wrote: »

Pity it's only got 6.5 seats.

Only have 2 with a 3rd on the way. 6.5 is perfect for me.

AstraMonti

I found the Skoda too boring for my taste, there is nothing on it that excites me (maybe apart from the umbrellas in the doors LOL), it's also a few grand more expensive for the same equipment.
On the other hand the Peugeot really intrigues me, I really like the i-cockpit and the setup on the gt-line. It's not perfect for sure, but it ticks a lot of boxes for me.

pete6296

AstraMonti wrote:

I found the Skoda too boring for my taste, there is nothing on it that excites me (maybe apart from the umbrellas in the doors LOL), it's also a few grand more expensive for the same equipment. On the other hand the Peugeot really intrigues me, I really like the i-cockpit and the setup on the gt-line. It's not perfect for sure, but it ticks a lot of boxes for me.

Totally agree. Peugeot is built in my opinion with family in mind. Skoda tries

SmithySeller

You'll still get away with the 4.5 or 6.5 setup, it'll just be more hassle, you've also got the transmission tunnel to contend with. But to offer balance, I certainly didn't find the new Peugeot tinny, on the contrary it seemed well built, and I had a good hour with it messing around. I like the interior of the Skoda, but it didn't appear any better built to me, in fact the large panel across the front felt very cheap. It's the outside that's the killer, it just looks OK (at best) IMO.

AstraMonti

For the choice of engine now, I think I ll probably be going for the 1.6 165 petrol one. Things are a bit too muddy with diesel going forward. And if all goes well this will be a car that will be in my driveway for a long time (10+ years) I don't want any limitations.

grogi

AstraMonti wrote: »

For the choice of engine now, I think I ll probably be going for the 1.6 165 petrol one. Things are a bit too muddy with diesel going forward. And if all goes well this will be a car that will be in my driveway for a long time (10+ years) I don't want any limitations.

This is the worst offering in the range. The everlasting issues with timing chain and its tensioners, carbon buildup etc - not really good option.

Get the 1.2 PT and chip it to 150 bhp a bit if you need more power...

AstraMonti

Thanks grogi, can you explain more about the potential issues, costs etc?
As for 1.2, I can't warm to it, it feels like it's going to let me down and I will be stuck with something I don't like.

grogi

AstraMonti wrote: »

Thanks grogi, can you explain more about the potential issues, costs etc?
As for 1.2, I can't warm to it, it feels like it's going to let me down and I will be stuck with something I don't like.

Just google THP problems...

It's the same engine (with different turbos, but block is the same) that was found in Mini Cooper R56, BMW 1-series, Peugeot RCZ and many other performance cars. It gives fantastic performance and characteristic, but broken at the design stage...

AstraMonti

For anyone interested here is the actual manual.

pete6296

Finance released from peugeot. 4.9% Apr for pcp

sReq | uTeK

Right......I still can't make up my mind. I'm hoping the active was just a bad drive and the GT Line can sway my mind as practicality wise this ticks more box's than the Skoda for family life.

Does ANYONE have ANY idea when there will be a GT Line available in and around Dublin?

AstraMonti

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Does ANYONE have ANY idea when there will be a GT Line available in and around Dublin?

There will be one in about 2 weeks in the Bluebell. Although it is going to be a manual 1.6 diesel. Give em a call to verify.

And I eventually made my mind, I am going for the automatic 1.2 PureTech on a GT line spec. Delivery in January.

pete6296

AstraMonti wrote:

And I eventually made my mind, I am going for the automatic 1.2 PureTech on a GT line spec. Delivery in January.

Fair play. What colour you pick. Was it finance, advised 1.2 not a good idea on 20k kms per year pcp

grogi

pete6296 wrote: »

Fair play. What colour you pick. Was it finance, advised 1.2 not a good idea on 20k kms per year pcp

What difference does the finance package make to the engine?!

pete6296

grogi wrote:

What difference does the finance package make to the engine?!

Kms I think. This was advise from peugeot

AstraMonti

pete6296 wrote: »

Kms I think. This was advise from peugeot

I am going with HP. I dont plan to change it in 3 years and with the deposit I am giving it makes sense for me to go HP.

I went for a white pearl. I really like the two tone difference with the black diamond roof. I initially wanted a red, but unfortunately it doesn't come in one. The other alternative was the black, but it was actually "too" black if that makes any sense.

grogi

AstraMonti wrote: »

I am going with HP. I dont plan to change it in 3 years and with the deposit I am giving it makes sense for me to go HP.

I went for a white pearl. I really like the two tone difference with the black diamond roof. I initially wanted a red, but unfortunately it doesn't come in one. The other alternative was the black, but it was actually "too" black if that makes any sense.

Why? Nobody is forcing to switch after three years... Go where it is cheaper...

AstraMonti

grogi wrote: »

Why? Nobody is forcing to switch after three years... Go where it is cheaper...

It was actually about 350euro cheaper with HP.

hairyslug

My wife talked me into the GT line 1.6 in grey, I'm expecting to have to wait for the new year as she wants heated seats but we are back in on Monday to confirm when.

medic112

whilst on hol's called into a peugeot dealer & had a look at all the models available. was certainly impressed got back last week & went to the local dealer for a spin in their 1.6 dsl active, was very impressed even at that spec. so we've decided to go ahead with a purchase too. I know I've discussed this before i just can get my head around the 1.2 petrol auto, i suppose i'm afraid of being stuck with 'a pig in a poke' asked the dealer, he looked like his heart stopped!! i see that AstraMonti has decided on one also. Just wanted to know your thoughts?

AstraMonti

medic112 wrote: »

whilst on hol's called into a peugeot dealer & had a look at all the models available. was certainly impressed got back last week & went to the local dealer for a spin in their 1.6 dsl active, was very impressed even at that spec. so we've decided to go ahead with a purchase too. I know I've discussed this before i just can get my head around the 1.2 petrol auto, i suppose i'm afraid of being stuck with 'a pig in a poke' asked the dealer, he looked like his heart stopped!! i see that AstraMonti has decided on one also. Just wanted to know your thoughts?

Well I was pretty much the same way as you, thinking that the 1.2 will be a disappointment and I will be stuck with a heavy box.
I had test driven the 1.6 diesel twice and on the second time I found it underwhelming and very "laggy" to respond. Then I was reading up all the diesel bans and tax increases all across Europe and it won't be long before they arrive here too, so I opted for the 1.6 petrol. grogi was helpful pointing some flaws on that engine and also the dealer wasn't too excited about it either. They have said no one has ordered this engine in either 3008/5008 and it's vastly under selling across Europe too. By far the most popular option is the 1.2. I test drove it on a 3008 and I was surprised to see how quiet and quick it was. It still sounds mad in my mind having a 3 cylinder 1.2 engine on a massive 7 seater suv, but apparently things have progressed and it's now an acceptable choice. Especially for my type of driving it makes kind of sense. I 've been reading the French forums these days and I mostly see happy owners of the 1.2. I certainly hope I will be able to join the happy club myself too.

grogi

medic112 wrote: »

whilst on hol's called into a peugeot dealer & had a look at all the models available. was certainly impressed got back last week & went to the local dealer for a spin in their 1.6 dsl active, was very impressed even at that spec. so we've decided to go ahead with a purchase too. I know I've discussed this before i just can get my head around the 1.2 petrol auto, i suppose i'm afraid of being stuck with 'a pig in a poke' asked the dealer, he looked like his heart stopped!! i see that AstraMonti has decided on one also. Just wanted to know your thoughts?

I personally don't have anything against diesels. I find recent media coverage, as usual unfortunately, more about flashy headlines and hysterical and not about facts (for instance only OLD cars are banned - Euro3 in Paris, Euro4 in London). But an average motorist is susceptible to it and eventually the diesel will be harder to sell.

Combine that with the smaller price tag of petrol car, better handling (because it is lighter over front axle), more power (120 vs 130 bhp) and economy that is not that much worse and in conditions the family carrier is used is often not worse at all.

I would take the 1.2 petrol over 1.6 diesel every time, unless I was doing like 40 kkm a year, but in that case would I be driving an family carrier?

AstraMonti

grogi wrote: »

I personally don't have anything against diesels. I find recent media coverage, as usual unfortunately, more about flashy headlines and hysterical and not about facts (for instance only OLD cars are banned - Euro3 in Paris, Euro4 in London). But an average motorist is susceptible to it and eventually the diesel will be harder to sell.

Combine that with the smaller price tag of petrol car, better handling (because it is lighter over front axle), more power (120 vs 130 bhp) and economy that is not that much worse and in conditions the family carrier is used is often not worse at all.

I would take the 1.2 petrol over 1.6 diesel every time, unless I was doing like 40 kkm a year, but in that case would I be driving an family carrier?

In terms of consumption the diesel is about 4.5l/100 and the average for the 1.2petrol is closer to 7.50. So with the current diesel prices and on an average of 12k kms a year that would roughly translate to 500-600 euro extra for the petrol on fuel.

grogi

AstraMonti wrote: »

In terms of consumption the diesel is about 4.5l/100 and the average for the 1.2petrol is closer to 7.50. So with the current diesel prices and on an average of 12k kms a year that would roughly translate to 500-600 euro extra for the petrol on fuel.

There is absolutely no way you'd get 4.5l/100km in a diesel with 12kkm a year. Think more like 8l/100km with that kind of mileage. Petrol will not be much worse really.

AstraMonti

grogi wrote: »

There is absolutely no way you'd get 4.5l/100km in a diesel with 12kkm a year. Think more like 8l/100km with that kind of mileage. Petrol will not be much worse really.

I have my Renault Fluence as a proof of that. 11k with 4.3l. In theory the Peugeot engine is even more economical.

grogi

AstraMonti wrote: »

I have my Renault Fluence as a proof of that. 11k with 4.3l. In theory the Peugeot engine is even more economical.

You're getting much better economy than the Joe Average - Fluence dCi gets average 5.5l/100km https://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/41-Renault/1224-Fluence.html?exactmodel=dCi&powerunit=2

On the same site, 5008 120BlueHDI gets 6.1l/100km. Simiraly sized C4GP averages around 5.7l (https://www.spritmonitor.de/de/uebersicht/12-Citroen/1447-C4_Grand_Picasso.html?power_s=120&power_e=120&powerunit=2). But this does usages with much higher mileage as well.

I'll stand that if you drive the car almost every day and do 12kkm a year, you will get 8l/100km. Sure, you can clock 12kkm doing 50 Cork-Dublin trips and have average of less than 5.0l/100km.

SmithySeller

Peugeot 5008 1.6eHDI 115BHP. Last year 15000K. Average according to clock is 6.2/100km.

grogi

SmithySeller wrote: »

Peugeot 5008 1.6eHDI 115BHP. Last year 15000K. Average according to clock is 6.2/100km.

Exactly in line with the stats I've linked... A far cry from 4.5l/100km with 12000km/year...

Stallingrad

SmithySeller wrote: »

Peugeot 5008 1.6eHDI 115BHP. Last year 15000K. Average according to clock is 6.2/100km.

Why on earth would you buy a diesel for 6.2/100 if doing less than 20,000km per year? Plenty of modern petrols will get that without all the diesel downsides, vibration, noise, environment, dmf, DPf, etc.