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Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

cros13

So... Hyundai IONIQ details are stating to leak out.

28kWh LG Chem NCM pack (Though I've been told that this is actually a 30kWh pack but Hyundai are being conservative about depth of discharge)

Expected EPA range of ~170km, just a few km shy of the 30kWh Leaf.

Looks well equipped and pricing might be below the Leaf. Had hoped for more range though.

Rapid Charging will be CCS in Europe and CHAdeMO in Asia.
A test unit was spotted charging via CCS at a FastNed station back in November.

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miamee

ELM327 wrote: »

Hmm. I've never been to carnmore cross so if so perhaps there was another similar meeting
I find EV owners to be a friendly group (generally) so I have no problems at all conversing with fellow owners at chargers whether I'm queueing or they are. Especially if I see someone is new and perhaps struggling to use the fcp/scp due to lack of dealer advice.

Well maybe we were at Ballinasloe then...I just thought it was closer to the city and had a look at the map there

There was myself and bf and you were wearing a Galway jersey and sunglasses? Lol, maybe we were talking to different people! You are right, almmost always a friendly bunch and some chats to be had at a charger.

ELM327

miamee wrote: »

That was us! I think it was at the FCP in Carnmore Cross though - we were on the way from Oranmore to Sligo that day

Hmm. I've never been to carnmore cross so if so perhaps there was another similar meeting

I find EV owners to be a friendly group (generally) so I have no problems at all conversing with fellow owners at chargers whether I'm queueing or they are. Especially if I see someone is new and perhaps struggling to use the fcp/scp due to lack of dealer advice.

miamee

ELM327 wrote: »

Was that yourself I was talking to at ballinasloe charging point the other day?
I was in the white (brown at that point with mud ) leaf.

I was talking to someone in a blue 172d Ioniq anyway, who had just got it and was checking out the range.

That was us! I think it was at the FCP in Carnmore Cross though - we were on the way from Oranmore to Sligo that day

ELM327

miamee wrote: »

I didn't get lost in the wilderness, will post about the trip in a bit more detail later. Suffice to say with 2 weeks off work since we got it we have put 2k+ kms on the clock, been all over the country and are very happy with the new car

Was that yourself I was talking to at ballinasloe charging point the other day?
I was in the white (brown at that point with mud

) leaf.

I was talking to someone in a blue 172d Ioniq anyway, who had just got it and was checking out the range.

miamee

miamee wrote: »

We're starting out at Blanchardstown so will top up at the shopping centre before we hit the road. I guess we'll see how we're doing on the way to stop at either Portlaoise or Roscrea and then fully charge at Limerick for the final leg. If we make it in time for the ferry across to the island we'll cut a few kms off the distance

For the list - it's 172 D in Marina Blue.

I didn't get lost in the wilderness, will post about the trip in a bit more detail later. Suffice to say with 2 weeks off work since we got it we have put 2k+ kms on the clock, been all over the country and are very happy with the new car

Fermi wrote: »

Hello Guys,

I know this was probably discussed, but can anybody please recommend insurance company that is not being crazy with premiums? I am trying to renew my policy for Ioniq but from 600ish euro for my previous car I am now getting quotes of 1000+ euro.

Thanks,

thelikelylad wrote: »

Try the AA (Aviva)

My insurance went down when I changed to the Ioniq.

This is who we got our best quote from too, by a mile better than others.

Water John

I presume Unkel, that Hyundai want to control and develop the business model.

thierry14

positron wrote: »

Is it too early to compare current Ioniq to 2018 Leaf?

New Leaf isn't amazing or anyting, but it holds well in comparison to current Ioniq, especially range, suggested price and dare I say it looks nice too?

Ioniq of course is more efficient with smaller battery pack, quicker to charge, and more practical shape with a more practical boot especially with rear seats folded.

I wonder how Hyundai is going to respond - since there's no new news on larger battery pack Ioniq for 2018, I am guessing they are bettin on other models like Kona to take shine away from new Leaf?

Ioniq is so good with a few tweaks it can have Tesla worried

The rumoured 44kWh pack and a uprated motor to 175-200bhp would give the Model 3 a run

positron

Is it too early to compare current Ioniq to 2018 Leaf?

New Leaf isn't amazing or anyting, but it holds well in comparison to current Ioniq, especially range, suggested price and dare I say it looks nice too?

Ioniq of course is more efficient with smaller battery pack, quicker to charge, and more practical shape with a more practical boot especially with rear seats folded.

I wonder how Hyundai is going to respond - since there's no new news on larger battery pack Ioniq for 2018, I am guessing they are bettin on other models like Kona to take shine away from new Leaf?

unkel

Announced by Hyundai. Details are vague, but it looks like Hyundai are going to run it themselves, which is surprising!

Linky

CarefulNow!

Great description! Found it straight away ha thanks

650Ginge

https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/19-Hyundai/1554-IONIQ.html?fueltype=5&powerunit=2

Interesting, 12.66 kWh/100km average for 27 cars.

Moreilly

liamog wrote: »

The car has an auto defogging system.
You can turn it off by holding the defroster button for three seconds when the car is on. An icon showing ADS Off should blink to confirm that it's turned off.
If you manually select the vents when ADS is detecting fogging it overrides your decision.

I've not noticed any issues with the heating system, it's been quick enough to heat the car when needed.

Thanks for that, I'll give it a go !

liamog

It's the one with the three squiggly lines

CarefulNow!

I noticed same with the no heat while heat on.... Where is defrost button!?

cros13

Moreilly wrote: »

Im cranking up the heater in the mornings

Why aren't you preheating the cabin?

liamog

The car has an auto defogging system.
You can turn it off by holding the defroster button for three seconds when the car is on. An icon showing ADS Off should blink to confirm that it's turned off.
If you manually select the vents when ADS is detecting fogging it overrides your decision.

I've not noticed any issues with the heating system, it's been quick enough to heat the car when needed.

Moreilly

Lads, quick question....How are you finding the heater in the Ioniq ? Im cranking up the heater in the mornings and the air still cool coming out, pressing everything nothing seems to help, sometimes it gets warm (after about 20 min) have tried on auto on/off, ac on/off, heat symbol lit up /off all combinations of the above ect... and i hit the button to change which vents the air comes out and it just switches back itself to the window vent almost immediately... what am i doing wrong ! ! ( probably something stupid..!)

thelikelylad

Fermi wrote: »

Hello Guys,

I know this was probably discussed, but can anybody please recommend insurance company that is not being crazy with premiums? I am trying to renew my policy for Ioniq but from 600ish euro for my previous car I am now getting quotes of 1000+ euro.

Thanks,

Try the AA (Aviva)

My insurance went down when I changed to the Ioniq.

Water John

Zurich

Fermi

Hello Guys,

I know this was probably discussed, but can anybody please recommend insurance company that is not being crazy with premiums? I am trying to renew my policy for Ioniq but from 600ish euro for my previous car I am now getting quotes of 1000+ euro.

Thanks,

unkel

ELM327 wrote: »

Yes but that's using 100% of the real battery capacity which you will not get,.
The leaf generally gives about 22kWh usable capacity.
So it's 22/21*100 or 104.76km and that's from 100% full to empty.

And in Ioniq the 28kWh is usable, so you'll get (28/16)*100 = 175km from 100% full to empty

Now these are fairly conservative figures, applicable if you drive hard and at 120km/h and even cater for a bit of winter and bad weather / wind

thelikelylad

Did Cork -> Dublin -> Cork last night for the Ireland match.

Efficiency was about 18.9kWh/100km for most of the last leg from Ballacolla to Cork, until Fermoy when I started to get a small bit of range anxiety :P. Flat out cruise control 120km/h, 21.5c climate, 2 adults, 12c outside. That leg always seems to be tough on efficiency due to hills.

Slowed up to sub 100km/h and made it home with 8%.

I wish there was a decent 24/7 service station + FCP in Urlingford. It's roughly 130km from Dublin and 130km from Cork. You could put the boot down pretty comfortably all-year round.

ELM327

Casati wrote: »

So simple maths would that mean 24/21 * 100 to get the range? 114km assuming worst case

Yes but that's using 100% of the real battery capacity which you will not get,.
The leaf generally gives about 22kWh usable capacity.
So it's 22/21*100 or 104.76km and that's from 100% full to empty.

Casati

unkel wrote: »

2015 Leaf 24kWh

Figures look about right to me. 19-21kWh/100km with heavy foot and plenty of 120km/h (real speed) driving in Leaf. Same driving about 14-16kWh/100km in Ioniq.

So simple maths would that mean 24/21 * 100 to get the range? 114km assuming worst case

unkel

Casati wrote: »

What car is that?

2015 Leaf 24kWh

Figures look about right to me. 19-21kWh/100km with heavy foot and plenty of 120km/h (real speed) driving in Leaf. Same driving about 14-16kWh/100km in Ioniq.

Casati

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Before I got work charging my average was around 16 Kwh/100 kms if I remember correctly, I'd have to go back to carwings to find out. Having every trip logged is quiet convenient.

I drive 127 Kph clock speed to 135 Kph clock speed for most of my commute. Because I work shift I travel only 5 days a month in peak traffic and that makes a huge difference to efficiency, trip average without traffic and heavy foot anywhere 19-22 Kwh/100 Km with traffic 15-18 Kwh/100 km.

What car is that?

[Deleted User]

Before I got work charging my average was around 16 Kwh/100 kms if I remember correctly, I'd have to go back to carwings to find out. Having every trip logged is quiet convenient.

I drive 127 Kph clock speed to 135 Kph clock speed for most of my commute. Because I work shift I travel only 5 days a month in peak traffic and that makes a huge difference to efficiency, trip average without traffic and heavy foot anywhere 19-22 Kwh/100 Km with traffic 15-18 Kwh/100 km.

ELM327

BoatMad wrote: »

all I know is my Leaf after 72,000km is reporting an average of 14.3 kw/100km

Deleted User wrote: »

My average over 2016 was 18.9 Kwh/100 Kms very heavy foot though and lots of 120-130 Kph on motorway for commute but also includes non motorway driving, it is after all an average.

Mine is also at nearly 19, but I drive at 120+ real world speeds for most of my driving, work + home charging put paid to driving at indicated 100 for range conservation! I was seeing around 13.5-14 when I got the car first and experienced range anxiety (for the first days)

isnottheword

Fermi wrote: »

Good luck and may we meet some time behind McDonalds in Castlebar getting some fast juice.

A very badly placed piece of infrastructure given how busy that car park is. Had a blazing argument with a guy who ICE'ed it one time. He had to get into his car from the passenger side

That said, they do have clamping signs right behind the 2x parking spaces now.

BoatMad

unkel wrote: »

You have a very light foot, BoatMad

And you obviously drive like Miss Daisy on motorways :pac:

105 -110 km/h indicated speedo on motorways, speed limit elsewhere