Benjamin Buttons wrote: » Hearsay and tittle-tattle...
Candie wrote: » I don't know why people find multilation funny - particularly gential mutilation like this case. There was a thread a few years ago about a woman who's partner had used superglue on her genitals and the 'jokes' were stomach turning and not all from expected sources either. Sharon Osbornes take on a similar case to the OP, broadcast on tv, where she thought it was funny when it was a man, but 'different' when it was a woman was similarly stomach turning.
Samaris wrote: » Robsweezie wrote: » when a woman is in a physical altercation especially a rape or assault,it may appear as more of a shock. i often hear it being said that its worse to see women fighting each other on the street than men. Side-note on that - boys are expected to "rough-house" as children, get into fights, be able to protect themselves and have a certain limit on how much damage they deal out. Obviously a bit sweeping, but I'd say most parents even now would still be less surprised if their son came home with a bloody nose than their daughter. Girls in general aren't. If they're taught to fight at all, it's no-holds-barred, bite, kick, punch, hair-pulling, knee to groin - because the expectation is that if they have to use it, winning is getting away or rendering the other person unable to hurt them, losing is probably death or rape. So two girls going at each other is -vicious-.
Robsweezie wrote: » when a woman is in a physical altercation especially a rape or assault,it may appear as more of a shock. i often hear it being said that its worse to see women fighting each other on the street than men.
Hammer89 wrote: » So, a wife in South Korea has chopped off her husband's penis and flushed it down the toilet because he was spending so much time on the golf course. Gary Lineker saw the funny side, Tweeting: "FORE....skin gone" and a lot of his followers also got in on the act. His followers responded with a plethora of golf-related puns - including some women - and you could be forgiven for thinking that it's not such a horrific story. Except for the fact it is a horrific story and can you imagine the outrage if a man mutilated his wife's genitals? Can you imagine Lineker making puns about the clitoris in that scenario? No, because he'd be strung up by his ears and rightly so, but it's okay if a man's genitals are destroyed by a woman with a kitchen knife, isn't it? Not only is it okay, but it's a source of humour and I'm sickened by the whole thing. I honestly am. Perhaps I'm wrong to be annoyed because this is simply the world we live in and there are great examples of hypocrisy out there, but that doesn't mean the lesser examples should be ignored.
Deleted User wrote: » True, but it's not a Court so hearsay is pretty legit. If any good friend said "I know X, he's a notorious womaniser and a deeply unpleasant person" you are entitled to take it on merit. It's their perception, it's far more reliable and first hand than perception based on media image. Course, if I met Linekar, I might say he was a nice guy...but even at that my take in one meeting could be skewed, this person met him frequently as he worked with Spurs at the time.
Benjamin Buttons wrote: » Hearsay and tittle-tattle... I prefer The Irish Times version of our Gary:www.irishtimes.com/sport/gary-lineker-from-pretty-boring-to-divisive-left-wing-liberal-1.2838664
Deleted User wrote: » That behaviour tallies with what I was told about him, particularly the women thing. The guy I know knew him when he was at Spurs when he had a wife and young children.
milli milli wrote: » Spurs played my local team way back in the 90s at one of those charity things and it was such a big deal as you can imagine. My friend was in the Order of Malta and she was outside the dressing rooms after half-time (Linekar only played the first half).. She had to talk to Linekar for one reason or another and he came out of the dressing room completely naked and chatted away to her! She was only about 16 at the time. After the match we waited around to see the players leaving and some young fella was getting autographs from the players - most obliged. When Linekar came out he looked like he was going to sign but then waved away the boy. I remember thinking 'what a knob', he could have made that young fellas day. It wasn't like he was hounded by autograph hunters or anything.
The Fake Sheikh wrote: » The joke is not the issue, it's who delivered it. If Alan Shearer had tweeted it nobody would have bat an eyelid.
JayRoc wrote: » I wouldn't say I'm offended by them. I just don't get why people who wouldn't joke about women getting raped would joke about men getting raped. I'm not a snowflake, trust me. Just don't get the double-standard.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Know a fellow who knew him when he was at Spurs and said he was just a vile nasty person. He knew a load of sporting celebs in football, snooker etc. back in the 90s and always said Linekar stood out as someone you didn't want to be around, and everyone knew it.
One eyed Jack wrote: » I was picking up on the point you were making though that he wouldn't make the same kind of joke about a woman having her genitalia mutilated and that it's about the biggest picture. Social revulsion of the two phenomena are world's apart as to be hardly comparable. Men having their penises chopped off is whether we like it or not, not nearly as socially repugnant as a woman having her clitoris chopped off. That's why socially it's more acceptable to make jokes about men having their penis chopped off. Making the point that he wouldn't make the same kind of joke about a woman is what's actually missing the bigger picture IMO. It's the sort of "reverse the genders" stuff that gets trotted out an awful lot which completely ignores the context of the bigger picture to claim that something is an example of sexism. A man has his penis chopped off, a guy makes a crap joke about it, and some people are concerned about sexism? I'm not suggesting that's a bad thing per se, just odd is all, a different perspective I suppose, based on ones point of view.
super_furry wrote: » "U sound triggered. U triggered bro?"
TheChosenOne_ wrote: » Does anyone really expect anything better from Gary Lineker? He is an absolute tw*t and has a very high opinion of himself. I mean, even just look at his brother. He's about 50 years old partying in Ibiza hanging out of teenagers. Dirty nonce.
One eyed Jack wrote: » Men having their penises chopped off is whether we like it or not, not nearly as socially repugnant as a woman having her clitoris chopped off. That's why socially it's more acceptable to make jokes about men having their penis chopped off.
Spider Web wrote: » I'm not talking about circumcision though (which I agree isn't as bad as FGM in terms of the damage done, but it's still barbaric) - I'm talking about a man's penis being chopped off.
Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: » This one's hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf5SCa0NqbM if you get offended by don't pick up the soap type jokes then you really need to have a sense of humour. A large amount of jokes are at the expense of someone's misery.
One eyed Jack wrote: » It's a false equivalence to compare the two as though they are equally regarded in society.
super_furry wrote: » Love to see the same people who spend half their time whinging about 'PC culture' and 'SJW's' suddenly turn into precious little snowflakes when someone they don't like makes the kind of joke they'd defend otherwise.
One eyed Jack wrote: » It's a false equivalence to compare the two as though they are equally regarded in society. I agree that it's a bigger picture than just the joke tweet, but making jokes about male genital mutilation can be condemned on it's own without needing to compare it to female genital mutilation. Context is of course important, and while I didn't find the attempted joke funny either, I think condemnation for it is akin to policing people's sense of humour - an altogether more insidious phenomenon than someone making a sh*t joke that can be easily ignored. There's plenty I don't find particularly funny or distasteful, but more often than not, I've found that expressing distaste only encourages some people.
Spider Web wrote: » It's more the fact that he simply would not do it regarding a story about a man mutilating a woman's genitals, and that ridicule of men is acceptable a lot of the time. It's a bigger picture than just the joke tweet.
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