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VW emissions software update - disaster

Golfgorfield

So i own a 2010 Golf GTD with DSG.
I received the letter to have the car made legal again for arguments sake amd decided to let my vw dealer do ot when in for service.
Its a 60,000 mile very well maintained with all main dealer stamps.
The car pulls like a train through the gears and when in sport mode it holds the revs in the high torque band brilliantly and is a joy to drive.

Well it was.......

After the software upgrade ive driven it over the weekend and it is certainly not the car it was, it feels much slower and its much more revvy and much less torquey.... in sport mode it doesnt hold the revs like it did and the dsg has become a bit dopey, theres also a slight vibration/wobble under acceleration at low speed which has appeared.

Has anyone any experience of this situation?
Im raging i got it done at all now.
I have phoned VW who stated they guarantee the car should feel exactly the same... just like they guaranteed all their engines were within emissions laws........

Has anyone noticed any differences after they had theirs done?

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Mf310

Thanks lads yeah it was over one trip and I might have had a bit too heavy right foot I'll see how I get on over the next few days
Also there is 17 inch alloys on the car would the extra inch make much difference? I see 18 inch alloys on lots of 1.6 tdi golf's on donedeal so I don't know

4068ac1elhodqr

Japanese carmaker Mazda says from 2019 it will sell cars fitted with engines that 'largely eliminate need for spark plugs', improving fuel consumption by 30%. The engine will be called 'Skyactiv-X', fancy.

They're also partnering with Toyota to build an electrics $1.6bn assembly plant. Could be, that the days of Diesel will be over sooner than thought.

colm_mcm

Mazda are great for ideas alright.

grogi

Rocky Zealous Reaper wrote: »

Japanese carmaker Mazda says from 2019 it will sell cars fitted with engines that 'largely eliminate need for spark plugs', improving fuel consumption by 30%. The engine will be called 'Skyactiv-X', fancy..

Just to make it clear: HCCI still comes with sparks, but they are not used at certain load...

grogi

colm_mcm wrote: »

Mazda are great for ideas alright.

That's a very old idea, but many tried and many failed before...

gctest50

Any day now they'll be offering the 10,000 euro discount here :

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40860960

Volkswagen is offering customers in Germany discounts of up to 10,000 euros (£9,000) if they trade in their old diesel vehicles and buy a new car.

The former head of the comedy engineering department has pleaded guilty :

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40829900

A former Volkswagen executive has pleaded guilty for his role in the German automaker's scheme to cheat US emissions requirements for diesel cars.

Oliver Schmidt, a former head of VW's engineering and environmental office in the US, admitted to participating in an attempted cover-up after regulators raised questions the "defeat devices".

If they spent the $25 billion the first day they'd have a fine engine

The scandal has cost Volkswagen as much as $25bn.

KCross

gctest50 wrote: »

Any day now they'll be offering the 10,000 euro discount here :

As long as "we" continue to make them the number 1 seller in the country they have no incentive to do anything other than continue as they are.

joeysoap

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40860960

Volkswagen is offering customers in Germany discounts of up to 10,000 euros (£9,000) if they trade in their old diesel vehicles and buy a new car.

VW Up to= Ryanair from?

grogi

joeysoap wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40860960

Volkswagen is offering customers in Germany discounts of up to 10,000 euros (£9,000) if they trade in their old diesel vehicles and buy a new car.

VW Up to= Ryanair from?

It seems to me is not discount per se. It is a scrapage deal with high allowance - because the cars they want people to give back are generally much newer.

Neilw

It says a lot when the vw group hold over 20% of all car sales, dieselgate doesn't seem to bother buyers.

Toyotafanboi

I'd love to know their % of petrol vs diesel sales this year compared to say 5 years ago. It looks like they've had a big shift towards petrol for some reason :pac:

grogi

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd love to know their % of petrol vs diesel sales this year compared to say 5 years ago. It looks like they've had a big shift towards petrol for some reason :pac:

In Ireland?! What is the problem?! http://www.beepbeep.ie/stats?sYear%5B%5D=2017&sYear%5B%5D=2012&sRegType=3&sMonth%5B%5D=&sMonth%5B%5D=&sMake%5B%5D=Volkswagen&x=46&y=11

For first seven months (first 2017, than 2012)

petrol: 3603 29.51% / 2269 25.36%
diesel: 8590 70.35% / 6679 74.64%

So in 2012 75% of their sales were diesels. In 2015 it was 72.3%. 2016 71.2%... This year it is only 70%

Dieselgate me

KCross

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I'd love to know their % of petrol vs diesel sales this year compared to say 5 years ago. It looks like they've had a big shift towards petrol for some reason :pac:

All publicly available on beepbeep.ie. No change really.... diesel all the way.
http://www.beepbeep.ie/stats/?sYear%5B%5D=2017&sYear%5B%5D=2013&sRegType=3&sMonth%5B%5D=1&sMonth%5B%5D=7&sMake%5B%5D=Volkswagen&x=32&y=10

Red Alert

My 2012 Golf which had been flawless until now had the update done in March. I didn't notice anything untoward apart from much more frequent active regeneration cycles (my car usually does two 100km runs each week at high speed). It sat down about 2 weeks ago on the M1, went in to limp mode with the flashing glow-plug light, no information on the MFD.

Injector replaced and the 200 euro bill was covered by VW under the "goodwill" programme related to the so-called fix. I'm now waiting for the next fault to occur on my otherwise-dependable car...

George Dalton

You have actually benefitted from the whole emissions saga. VW are so keen to keep people happy that they are covering 100% cost of many failures under goodwill warranty that would not have been covered previously. Those 1.6TDI injectors have always been a bit troublesome and the failure won't have been in any way related to you having the software update done.

Toyotafanboi

Don't let that get in the way of a good rant though.

1jcdub

Looks like soon VW are going to be offering a pan european update for euro 5 and some euro 6 TDI compliant engines with an additional software update that will cut emissions even further.The companies (VW, BMW, Daimler, Opel) will retrofit models with a software update that will reduce the nitrogen oxide emissions by 25 to 30 percent.
https://amp.carscoops.com/2017/08/vw-opel-mercedes-and-bmw-to-update-25.html

Comhrá

They don't mess around with suspended sentences in the US.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41053740?ocid=socialflow_twitter

road_high

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Don't let that get in the way of a good rant though.

Can we be 100% sure though the updates didn't trigger something to cause the fault? Have had experience with that engine in the past with Egr and dpf issues out of warranty.

Riva10

Rode on my motorcycle behind a 151 C TDi yesterday for a couple of hundred meters and what a hot smell was coming from it. Roads were dry so it was'nt water drying on the exhaust. Something was running very hot.

Toyotafanboi

road_high wrote: »

Can we be 100% sure though the updates didn't trigger something to cause the fault?

We can't be.

We do know two things though. That those engines were well known to give injector trouble before any emissions headlines broke and that this guys injector broke only after he had the emissions fix.

It being broken after the emissions fix means two things IMO. That there may have been a weakness in the injector anyway and the software could have tipped it over the edge and we know VW replaced the part that was likely to fail regardless of software status at no cost to the owner which they otherwise wouldn't have.

grogi

Riva10 wrote: »

Rode on my motorcycle behind a 151 C TDi yesterday for a couple of hundred meters and what a hot smell was coming from it. Roads were dry so it was'nt water drying on the exhaust. Something was running very hot.

Probably on its DPF active regeneration. During the regeneration the fumes get really reaaaaally hot - if the vehicle is stationary, they can even melt the tarmac...

1jcdub

With the recently announced scrappage scheme being introduced. I don't believe it will make a difference to taking high emission cars off the road. My partner has a 08 Octavia rs TDI that I purchased from new. With just over 100k miles t's been reliable and in immaculate condition. In saying that it's had oil changes every 15k Kms or so and it's not had the emission update. It's worth between 7k and 8k as it stands. So why would I accept scrappage of 2-3k on a car worth more.. VW should be offering scrappage PLUS trade-in value if they are serious about removing so called high emission cars.
The scrappage offer is more a pr stunt than anything.

Toyotafanboi

An 08 VRS isn't due an emissions fix regardless, so let's not act like you not getting it done has contributed to the cars wellbeing.

In fairness the VRS are nice and hold a bit of a price premium which is fair enough but €8k is certainly at the thick end of its current value.

At the same time, non VRS 08 ish diesel Octavias seem to get advertised for around €4k so to be offered 3k ish scrappage wouldn't be a million miles out tbh. IMO the average punter with an 08 or older Golf/ Octavia looking to buy a new one, a guaranteed offer of €3k ish will be fairly appropriate in a lot of cases.

joeysoap

Not surprised your a Toyota fan;

08 Yaris are coming in from 6- 8 k on Carzone. (petrol, not hybrid) I would have thought an Octavia would hold its value a bit better than that?

Toyotafanboi

It's not classified information, search Donedeal.

08 Octavia diesel, asking €2750
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-skoda-octavia-1-9-tdi/16391153

08 Octavia VRS diesel, asking €5000
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-octavia-vrs-2-0-tdi/15993364

Seth Brundle

1jcdub wrote: »

The scrappage offer is more a pr stunt than anything.

This scrappage scheme is called "EcoGrant".
Scrapping a car in order to get a newer one is as far from eco as you can get.
It's a cheap (to VW) marketing gimmick.

1jcdub

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

It's not classified information, search Donedeal.

08 Octavia diesel, asking €2750
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-skoda-octavia-1-9-tdi/16391153

08 Octavia VRS diesel, asking €5000
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-octavia-vrs-2-0-tdi/15993364

It's all down to milage condition etc. A few of the people that know our rs are waiting for it to come up for sale and have mentioned offers in the region of 7k. It's all relative to condition etc. It's still on its original brake pads lol and two careful owners

Seth Brundle

Ha ha ha ha

Irish Times wrote:

Greenpeace boards ship in England in bid to stop delivery of VW cars
Activists holding thousands of car keys will remain until ship returns to Germany - Greenpeace say

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/greenpeace-boards-ship-in-england-in-bid-to-stop-delivery-of-vw-cars-1.3229333?mode=amp

colm_mcm

Diesel powered ship.