The Nal wrote: » I suppose we're into the "define greatness" conversation regarding sport then. I'd always have to have longevity in there when looking at the top top guys.
magma69 wrote: » Big thank you to all the lads that put money on McGregor. Ole ole ole!
“At least $20 million, $30 million,” Perez said. “Come on. UFC’s making a whole lot of money, a whole lot of money and they’re pocketing it. They’re giving more to McGregor, so it’s not fair because it takes two in that ring to draw a crowd – I mean, a good two fighters. It’s just like Mayweather when he fought Berto. It was not even sold out at all. It was embarrassing. It’s because that guy couldn’t draw a crowd. See, that’s what I’m saying, it’s the fighters that draw the crowd, and Nathan and McGregor, third one would be outstanding. Everyone knows that. So he needs to get paid at least $30 million easy.”
John_D80 wrote: » Sorry but if you really are trying to make the point that longevity is a prerequisite to being considered great then those mentioned do not support your point at all!! Everyone one of those would still be considered amongst the greatest of all time in their sports regardless of whether or not they had a long career.
The Nal wrote: » But look at Pele, Federer, Schumacher, Valentino Rossi, Ronnie O'Sullivan, Usain Bolt, Michael Phelps, Anderson Silva, GSP.
Sweet Science wrote: » Classy instagram post by Conor btw
Just coming back around after a whirlwind couple of days. Thank you to all the fans for the support of the fight and the event! Without your support we as fighters are nothing so I thank you all! Thank you to my team of coaches and training partners! I had an amazing team and It truly was an amazing and enjoyable camp, and honestly I feel with just a little change in certain areas of the prep, we could have built the engine for 12 full rounds under stress, and got the better result on the night. Getting to 12 rounds alone in practice was always the challenge in this camp. We started slowly getting to the 12 and decreasing the stress in the rounds the closer it got to 12. I think for the time we had, 10 weeks in camp, it had to be done this way. If I began with a loaded 12 rounds under much stress I would have only hit a brick wall and lost progress as a result and potentially not made the fight. A little more time and we could have made the 12 cleanly, while under more stress, and made it thru the later rounds in the actual fight. I feel every decision we made at each given time was the correct decision, and I am proud of everyone of my team for what we done in the short time that we done it. 30 minutes was the longest I have fought in a ring or cage or anywhere. Surpassing my previous time of 25 minutes. I am happy for the experience and happy to take all these great lessons with me and implement them into my camp going forward. Another day another lesson! Congrats to Floyd on a well fought match. Very experienced and methodical in his work. I wish him well in retirement. He is a heck of a boxer. His experience, his patience and his endurance won him this fight hands down. I always told him he was not a fighter but a boxer. But sharing the ring with him he is certainly a solid fighter. Strong in the clinch. Great understanding of frames and head position. He has some very strong tools he could bring into an MMA game for sure. Here is a toast of whiskey to everyone involved in this event and everyone who enjoyed it! Thank you to you all! Onto the next one!
John_D80 wrote: » This is just not true at all for any sport. Look at the likes of Mark Spitz, Barry John, Jonah Lomu.
walshb wrote: » Lewis had him out for the full count I believe....eventually, and after utter exhaustion as well. Would have to check the McBride and Danny Williams fights... Both kind of had enough/wrecked sit down protests...
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The Nal wrote: » Part of being a great is longevity. He didn't have that. .
Effects wrote: » He let himself down, as low as you can get, in his personal life though.
walshb wrote: » Suffered with some indiscipline, but that was one single incident through his whole career.
Zero-Cool wrote: » I had asked earlier I wonder how much Nate will want for the trilogy. Turns out between 20-30 mil....yeah that fights never gonna happen.https://www.mmafighting.com/2017/8/31/16232818/coach-nate-diaz-paid-at-least-30-million-conor-mcgregor-trilogy-ufc
The Nal wrote: » The fact that he didn't face as many greats as other greats did yet still lost/got KO'd as much/more. We really should merge these threads! :P Over here.
walshb wrote: » Who? What measure and criteria and reasoning are you using?
The Nal wrote: » Course was tough, hes Mike Tyson! Point Im making is that he wasn't as tough as other great boxers.
walshb wrote: » Tyson's prime was not post prison, so the Holyfield fights were not his prime. Not close, and you can see the marked difference in speed and feet and overall intensity. He was not the same fighter.
Mellor wrote: » Tyson wasn't tough, what??> Three of those KOs came at the tail of his career. Hardly fair to judge his whole career on the McBride fight. Buster Douglas and Holyfield were the only two during his prime. There were at least some additional influence for the Buster Douglas loss. And I don't know how the 10th and 11th round of the Holyfield fight show that Tyson was anything of the than a tough SOB.
walshb wrote: » It was flush enough. The problem wasn't the clarity or flushness, but the impact and speed (had ok speed only) and delivery of the shot. Conor doesn't throw wow boxing punches. Not the kind that I think would make him a genuine credible threat.
The Nal wrote: » Just saying that he wasn't that tough. Wouldn't have been KO'd 5 times if he was.
Boom_Bap wrote: » Mayweather just takes shots like a champ. Nothing fazes him.
Sweet Science wrote: » And......
