Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

1. Fiery mutant - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171 WH
2. liamog - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171D
3. zale - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171WH
4. unkel - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
5. Mope - Ioniq BEV - Platinum Silver - 171D
6. thelikelylad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171C
7. woppers - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171WX
8. don't be at yourself - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 171D
9. Ballylad - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 171CW
10. Coconut Joe - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172D
11. Macker-Ioniq BEV - Marina Blue - 172??
12. Fermi - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black - 172MO
13. Johnnyjohnjohns - Ioniq BEV - Aurora Silver - 172D
14. this.lad - Ioniq BEV - Polar White - 172
15. CarefulNow! - Ioniq BEV - Polar White 172D
16. Moreilly - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 172KE
17. Neleven - Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 172 WW
18. DglFlyer -Ioniq BEV - Phantom Black 171 CE
19. jeremy_g - Platinum Silver - 171WW
20. miamee - Marina Blue - 172D

Blanch to Midway is only around 92km. Well within range of the Ioniq. Will they have the car fully charged before setting off? (Or even 50%)

Blanch, Lucan, and Naas are busy chargers so it may be best to avoid if you are sprinting cross country for a ferry.

miamee

unkel wrote: »

Well wear! You're the 20th Ioniq EV owner who has posted here on boards :cool:

Please fill in the below list too!

As for charging stops - where in Dublin are you starting from and what speed would you drive at? I'm in Lucan myself and I would probably drive in one go to Limerick FCP to charge (190km) taking it a bit handy. Probably safer is to charge at Midway (superfast charger, up to 69kW) for a 10-15 minute charge and then full speed to Limerick. From there on only slow chargers I'm afraid, but you should make it to Valentia island (180km) with plenty to spare.

We're starting out at Blanchardstown so will top up at the shopping centre before we hit the road. I guess we'll see how we're doing on the way to stop at either Portlaoise or Roscrea and then fully charge at Limerick for the final leg. If we make it in time for the ferry across to the island we'll cut a few kms off the distance

For the list - it's 172 D in Marina Blue.

KCross wrote: »

Im trying to remember now but isn't it the case that for DC charging it is the charger that ultimately decides what rate to deliver?

The car will tell the charger what rate to deliver but the charger can in effect do what it likes as its a direct connection to the battery?

If thats the case maybe there is a fault and its just providing max, even for the Leaf's! :eek:

Is it not the case that the BMS sets and maintains a maximum demand depending on the BMS criteria (heat, SOC, voltage etc) and the charger delivers what it can up to that.

The Ioniq can demand up to 70kW I believe.

LG Chem are expanding battery production in Wroclaw (PL) and Michigan (US), Wroclaw batteries are believed to be mainly for Renault, Michigan for Chevy. This should free up some capacity in Cheongju (SK) for Hyundai.

Well wear! You're the 20th Ioniq EV owner who has posted here on boards :cool:

Please fill in the below list too!

As for charging stops - where in Dublin are you starting from and what speed would you drive at? I'm in Lucan myself and I would probably drive in one go to Limerick FCP to charge (190km) taking it a bit handy. Probably safer is to charge at Midway (superfast charger, up to 69kW) for a 10-15 minute charge and then full speed to Limerick. From there on only slow chargers I'm afraid, but you should make it to Valentia island (180km) with plenty to spare.

KCross

cros13 wrote: »

I'm not sure that kW meter on the Midway rapid is accurate... according to it my 30kWh leaf was pulling 60kW last night.

Im trying to remember now but isn't it the case that for DC charging it is the charger that ultimately decides what rate to deliver?

The car will tell the charger what rate to deliver but the charger can in effect do what it likes as its a direct connection to the battery?

If thats the case maybe there is a fault and its just providing max, even for the Leaf's! :eek:

Casati

miamee wrote: »

A question for you guys...we are picking up our new 172 D today (yay) and driving tonight to Kerry from Dublin.

If we're fully charged when hitting the road, is a stop in Roscrea and then somewhere closer to destination (Valentia) going to be enough? We currently drive a Leaf so we are well used to the stopping to charge but obviously the Combo DC is a bit more scarce plus this is a longer distance than we'd ever attempt in the Leaf - I'm a little bit apprehensive about it tbh!

That's 400km so will be a good test to do with one stop and I'd be interested to see how you get on, please report back

miamee

A question for you guys...we are picking up our new 172 D today (yay) and driving tonight to Kerry from Dublin.

If we're fully charged when hitting the road, is a stop in Roscrea and then somewhere closer to destination (Valentia) going to be enough? We currently drive a Leaf so we are well used to the stopping to charge but obviously the Combo DC is a bit more scarce plus this is a longer distance than we'd ever attempt in the Leaf - I'm a little bit apprehensive about it tbh!

peposhi

If it managed to put 26kw in 26 min I'd say I'd be safe to state it was charging at 60kwh average

Maybe it isn't. I have to admit I took the display as a given. I didn't check how long it actually took for my charge. Peposhi and mad lad seem prett sure it was fast though.

cros13

I'm not sure that kW meter on the Midway rapid is accurate... according to it my 30kWh leaf was pulling 60kW last night.

peposhi

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Did you get a 30 Kwh leaf after or still got the 24 Kwh ? think I remember you talking about it at least.

Oh, yes, I did. 6 months a go, SVE, 6.6kwh, done nearly 12k km on it, love it!

peposhi wrote: »

At Midway FCP the ioniq I tested back in Feb wa able to pull 26kw in just 26 min. That was more than the entire battery of my all Leaf... You can count the speed...

Did you get a 30 Kwh leaf after or still got the 24 Kwh ? think I remember you talking about it at least.

peposhi

At Midway FCP the ioniq I tested back in Feb wa able to pull 26kw in just 26 min. That was more than the entire battery of my all Leaf... You can count the speed...

I got 23-90% in 25 mins in the test Ioniq, yes I saw 68 Kw for a while, it made a big difference compared to a 24 Kwh Leaf, night and day really.

You can live much easier with a limited range EV with much faster charging. But with twice the range you have much more freedom from the public charging network.

I got 68kW at Midway iirc (posted it here a few pages back)

I haven't even seen it hit 50kW at any of the other efacec chargers. But I think mad lad got it at other chargers too? Makes a nice difference. 20%-90% in less than 20 minutes

cros13

ELM327 wrote: »

Interesting as - I think - that display shows you are taking 96% of the available power. Wonder what would have happened if a Zoe tried to charge on AC?

The Zoe would get at least 12kW, at the cost of the CCS

66.58kW a few weeks back at Portlaoise.

thelikelylad wrote: »

66.58kW a few weeks back at Portlaoise.

Interesting as - I think - that display shows you are taking 96% of the available power. Wonder what would have happened if a Zoe tried to charge on AC?

thelikelylad

That session was at Blanchardstown so was running at ~48kW for most of the time.

The voltage rises as the charger rises it to keep above the voltage of the battery. The voltage differential between the pack and the charger is what that charger uses to control the current. The higher the voltage differential the higher the current.

Interesting info to have, that shows it is taking 0.6a over the 125a at a higher SOC than I would have expected. The voltage rises as the battery charges so I would theorize based on the above that if you are telling me you charged at >62.5kW earlier in the charge that it was the amperage that changed not the volts.

I was using Torque to pull the info from the BMS.

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I'll do the same at Portlaoise sometime.

BoatMad wrote: »

look down near the bottom of the EFacec units you will see a current power meter, divide that number by 400 to get amps

But it's not exact. You could be drawing well below 400V due to low SOC.
DBT units show the volts and amps.

BoatMad

ELM327 wrote: »

I know that the max speed of the Chademo protocol currently in use is 62.5 kW, however don't know what the max of CCS is currently (100kW perhaps?)
I think it's a software bug allowing the CCS plug to draw all available power on (some of?) the efacec units as I saw Ioniqs able to pull north of 65kW at Naas and at Midway. When the software was written and the units installed they probably didn't have a CCS car to test with, and certainly not one capable of pulling >50kW.

From memory I have not seen higher than 400V DC on any charger in Ireland. However, the efacec units don't seem to report (to me anyway) the volts and amps. It only shows the instantaneous kW being delivered and also the total kWh delivered for the session. The DBT units show more information.

look down near the bottom of the EFacec units you will see a current power meter, divide that number by 400 to get amps

ELM327 wrote: »

Perhaps it was, but it must have been faulty as the chargers delivering over 50kW is outside the rated delivery.

The chademo protocol is limited to 62.5kW in the chademo 1 spec sheet. I have provided you with this information already on another thread.

I understand there are some 100kW chargers being installed by kia but I do not know under what protocol these fall. Are they higher voltage DC? Higher amperage? 500volts at 125 amps is the max of the Chademo 1.0 protocol, giving a max output of 62.5 kW.

They're obviously ChaDeMo 1 since ChaDeMo II isn't available yet.

I do not know at what voltage the chargers support.

Most of the spec sheets report the power output at 400V.
Could the Portlaoise charger be running at 500V which would give us 500x125 for 62.5kW?