Sweet Science wrote: » Next level stuffhttps://twitter.com/boxing_memes/status/902268690275729414
Sweet Science wrote: » Its mad the way McGregor is shredded yet gases so easily . Yet DC is fat and can go 5 rounds easy enough . Endurance is a crazy thing.
ThinkProgress wrote: » What about that TKO inside 3 rounds prediction of yours?? Fairly badly off the mark tbf... Do you have a hard** for walshie, or something...?? He's not really being impartial... he is judging Floyd's performance against a higher barometer... simply because Floyd calls himself TBE... and he is in the ATG discussion bracket. If he were being truly impartial... he would judge Floyd's performance, as if this was just two random boxers going at it. If you judge this fight in that manner... Floyd just scored a very easy win, against a guy who was nowhere in his league! But no chance of a TKO... so you were WAY off the mark! The fight was never a starter... Conor had no power... no power = no chance! You obviously felt, that his punches might carry more weight in those first 3 rounds... so he could get that TKO... but you were wrong! His punches were weak, and completely ineffective!Conor is a good athlete by UFC standards... but the standard of athleticism in the UFC is not that great. Old man Floyd is a supreme athlete, even at 40... I genuinely felt he could have went another 10 rounds in there easily... But Conor was fcuked after about 3 or 4 rounds... granted he does come from a different sport. But still, the difference in conditioning was truly shocking!! But you called the TKO inside 3 rounds... lots of people didn't make THAT call... Plenty of us, did not believe in Conor's "Touch of Death Left"... :pac: But fair play... you were a believer!! Good for you! But you were WAY off!! You won't catch me saying, "he won't land a punch"... Any chance you want to retract that allegation? Possibly an apology, too? (wouldn't hurt) :P McGregor told us he was going to run through Floyd... that his head was too small, and his physique was too weak... that we were mad to think Floyd even had a chance! And some of you guys clearly swallowed some of that Koolaid... But the opposite happened... Floyd had more power than Conor, and had stamina to burn... at 40 years old... He walked him down, and knocked him out! Seriously, who gives a sh!t...!? :pac: Oh, wait... bitter MMA fans, that hate boxing!! He's a boxing promoter!! The job requires you to be a greasy slimebag... Have you ever seen some of the hypocrisy that Dana White gets himself tangled up in...?? He easily puts ODH to shame, with his antics! But again... who really gives a sh!t either way??
walshb wrote: » Yeh, because that is what he is saying/implying! :rolleyes:
mdwexford wrote: » Actually that's exactly what he said. Stick your stupid smileys. You post nonsense.
walshb wrote: » Oh, you've learned how to quote the correct post.. Well done!
mdwexford wrote: » What are you on about. Keep posting. Every time it gets more embarrassing for you.
walshb wrote: » Really, I didn't expect you to cop on to what I meant... We'll leave it there..
jefferson73 wrote: » I know little to nothing about boxing and less about MMA. Trying to reconcile the multiple comments on cardio and superior fitness. Seems to me to be a stark difference between the performances in some cases being put down to one of the fighters being a supreme athlete and the other struggling after a number of rounds due to his bad cardio training. Wondering if the fight was subjected to full USADA testing?
Too Tough To Die wrote: » You'd expect the seasoned professional to more energy efficient within his chosen sport than the novice. Boxers usually start in 4 round fights and work their way up. Also, it's not the first time Conor's cardio has been called into question.
Sweet Science wrote: » @Mellor while you are there Is it etiquette for someone to tap in BJJ when they know they are in a choke they cant get out of ? Im sure i read it somewhere
marcus001 wrote: » Muscle uses more energy than fat, it's also heavier to carry, so not actually surprising at all.
Mellor wrote: » Muscle isnt heavier than fat. A kilo is a kilo. Regardless, Daniel Cormier is 50kg heavier than Conor McGregor. He's carrying more of everything, by all metrics.
Lukker- wrote: » It is heavier based on volume and density. Fat takes up four times more volume than muscle of the same weight.
walshb wrote: » Mellor never disputed this.... I am sure he knew it anyway.
Lukker- wrote: » For sure, but stating that a kilo is a kilo is akin to asking which is heavier a pound of metal or a pound of feathers, of course the weight is the same if the mass is equal
mdwexford wrote: » ThinkProgress wrote: » So were you impressed with how he performed physically, against a much older man?? The older athlete had more power, stamina, speed etc Boxing and MMA are different, obviously... but still, Conor does throw punches for a living... he is predominantly a stand-up fighter. Conor is considered one of the best athletes in MMA... So should the gulf in athleticism be that wide, between him and 40 year old Floyd?? So you are basing the fitness of the entire UFC on one person, solid sample size. Conor has a history of gassing and it was a known issue before this fight. He's pretty far from the best athlete in the UFC.
ThinkProgress wrote: » So were you impressed with how he performed physically, against a much older man?? The older athlete had more power, stamina, speed etc Boxing and MMA are different, obviously... but still, Conor does throw punches for a living... he is predominantly a stand-up fighter. Conor is considered one of the best athletes in MMA... So should the gulf in athleticism be that wide, between him and 40 year old Floyd??
yourdeadwright wrote: » Fat and muscle really have no bearing on your gas tank ,
walshb wrote: » The elite marathon runner would still be elite fit. The heart and lungs are the real indicator. The problem would be that they are now carrying around extra weight that would slow them down and force them to work "harder," draining the tank faster. Still close to the same tank capacity though. I think that is what the poster is getting at. And it wouldn't take close to 20 kgs to affect the marathon man...a few lbs here and there can change their performances.
Mellor wrote: » Right, so saying it's "heavier to carry" makes no sense in this context. Even if they were the same weight it would be make no sense. 175lbs is 175lbs. But DC is 50lbs bigger. He is carrying around more of everything. One reason he has better cardio is because his output is a lot lower. A better example would be Cain Velasquez. Heavyweight, ridiculous output. Shame he's always injured. While we're on the topic. Muscle is not 4 times denser/heavier than fat. It's slightly more, maybe 10%. This kind of pictures, are fake. Carrying around 1 kg of fat is just as hard as 1 kg of muscle, muscle improves cardio ability as it stores glycogen. Do don't see many fat elite runners for good reason.
