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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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Any "Do you even train Bro?" or "I'm an mma fan longer than you" type posts are not permitted either. They only make you look like a fool and as a result, everyone hates you. Yes everyone.

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Lads consider this the one and only warning - big fight with a lot of hype around it. It brings new fans to the forum as well as the regulars so try and get along. Any trolling or nonsense and people will find themselves on a break from the forum and that applies to everyone.

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everlast75

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Nate so gansta.

The equivalent of a young boy trying to get a girl's attention by pulling her pigtails

Outlaw Pete

Nate so gansta.

LollipopJimmy

I'd buy Tigers book on relationship advice. Who'd say to an orgy

wonderfullife

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Medical suspension until the end of October.

So possible December (New Years) fight in the UFC next.

He was medically suspended until October 20th last year too with a no-contact date of October 5th. Meanwhile during his "medical suspension" Conor was posting training photos in September and he fought November 12th :pac:

The medical suspensions are not worth the paper they are written on because they're unenforceable and neither NY or Nevada are going to fine Conor with the money he brings in.

Gamebred wrote: »

Seen the fight. up to round 4 was pretty interesting id say the experts were in need of a change of jocks, my biggest take on the fight as I've always thought, Conor McGregor fast system is a scam he has cardio issues that need addressing granted Floyd worked his body but his cardio is dreadful after the opening exchanges.

Welcome back just as I'm leaving (well trying to leave for a few weeks haha).

Just on this - I've said this before but I stand by it. Conor 100% has a touch of the Damien Duff about him. I loved watching Duff play in his prime but after 2 mins of the match he'd have his hands on his hips gasping for air like he smokes 40 a day, yet he would still be running his socks off for 90 mins.

I'll stick my neck on the line - I reckon Conor's endurance would be excellent if he was to cycle 100km or run a half-marathon but he'd still visually look like he's bolloxed after the first 200 meters.

Even for fighting he's actually got solid endurance - case in point round 4 against Nate and round 8 against Floyd as I keep harping back to, he was extremely good in round 8, threw 59 punches and landed his best body work of the night. He did enough to win rd 8 on the Showtime cards.

The problem we are seeing, in my view, isn't a strict cardio issue it's a drop-off issue...

Conor round 1 & 2 in MMA is arguably the most dangerous (active) early round fighter in the UFC alongside Oezdemir and Stipe. Conor's drop-off after 2 rounds is significant though, everything goes from A+ explosive to C- so fast, and even when he recovers he only gets back to C+.

TL;DR - He's as fit as a fiddle but it looks to me like he needs to accept the fact he's an explosive early fighter and try minimize the drop-off.

Trying to sell the McGregor Fast program right now is like Tiger Woods trying to sell a book on relationship-advice - tough sell but he'll find buyers because of his name

hatrickpatrick

I don't see him doing the New Year's fight either, especially with his new baby - he'll want to be able to relax and enjoy Christmas in Ireland with his friends and family. So an earlier December fight, or Spring 2018 fight seem the most likely options.

Pussyhands

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

So all over linkedin today, Conor was homeless and Dee took him off the streets and moved him into a tiny apartment and fed him daily.

You'd think he was some waif orphan the way people are carrying on. Crumlin and Lucan aren't exactly downtrodden parts of society. In fact the unemployment rate in Lucan is below the national average. I hate having to use Linkedin for work

It never mentions his dad offering him 10k to go to college.

Apparantly getting welfare means you're in poverty. But..it's not surprising as people are gullible idiots.

Gamebred

Seen the fight. up to round 4 was pretty interesting id say the experts were in need of a change of jocks, my biggest take on the fight as I've always thought, Conor McGregor fast system is a scam he has cardio issues that need addressing granted Floyd worked his body but his cardio is dreadful after the opening exchanges.

walshb

Gamebred wrote: »

Afternoon gents, back from Abroad how did the fight go what round did Conor ko that bum in?

Had the ref not saved Floyd in rd 9 from that beautiful body shot the headline would read "Ex plumber dethrones ex wife beating ATG."

Sadly it wasn't to be.

Gamebred

Afternoon gents, back from Abroad how did the fight go what round did Conor ko that bum in?

dulux99

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Medical suspension until the end of October.

So possible December (New Years) fight in the UFC next.

I just can't see that materializing. The training and media obligations for the Floyd fight must have really taken it out of him, and he made so much money in the meantime, I can't see him sacrificing Christmas . I wouldn't be surprised if he took a full year off, he'll have earned it.

dulux99

chopperbyrne wrote: »

Medical suspension until the end of October.

So possible December (New Years) fight in the UFC next.

Jamiekelly

Everything is a conspiracy to some people.

chopperbyrne

Medical suspension until the end of October.

So possible December (New Years) fight in the UFC next.

LollipopJimmy

walshb wrote: »

The little kind of nod/nodding from Conor just after an exchange adds fuel to the fire I think.

Gas isn't it, the sh1te that comes out. I do find Conor's nod funny, you see him do it a lot

sc86

they got lads shoot according to that lol

you are right walsh b - conor took it easy on mayweather and let him win

sc86

https://www.facebook.com/stfnews/videos/1518098621600576/

sc86

i would expect non fight fans to swallow it
surprised regulars would

Paully D

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2017/08/28/mcgregor-v-mayweather-read-the-expert-opinion-of-this-lad-who-fixes-our-printer/

Nail on the head from Waterford Whispers News. :pac:

walshb

The little kind of nod/nodding from Conor just after an exchange adds fuel to the fire I think.

sc86

i saw the video claiming that on facebook
all the shots pictured were tee up shots as is normal - or from the last round where he could barely stand

its laughable
but when edited together make a story
conor took it easy on mayweather then? ah come on what next

walshb

It's doing the rds that Conor was pulling his punches. I told you a fix was possible...

Should cheer up some of the Conor fans....

everlast75

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Easy Rod

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

So all over linkedin today, Conor was homeless and Dee took him off the streets and moved him into a tiny apartment and fed him daily.

You'd think he was some waif orphan the way people are carrying on. Crumlin and Lucan aren't exactly downtrodden parts of society. In fact the unemployment rate in Lucan is below the national average. I hate having to use Linkedin for work

Yeah but where else would you go to find the correct answer for 4(2) + 2*8/2 - 18/9/Sin2 = ???

Apparently only 1% of the population can solve it.

cloudatlas

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/paax8k/mayweather-beat-mcgregor-by-not-fighting-a-mayweather-fight?utm_vicesportstwitter

Just for the sake of balance Jack Slack's report.

'In the aftermath of the fight, the focus of McGregor's legion of fans has been on the 100-plus punches he landed on Mayweather. Expect this statistic to be revisited in every UFC promo package, Joe Rogan Experience, and McGregor fight commentary until he retires because this is more than genuine world class boxers like Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao were able to lay their gloves on Mayweather. But Mayweather went out of his way to measure exchanges with those men. He never stood close enough for Pacquiao to put two punches together. Against McGregor, however, Mayweather seemed to encourage the UFC lightweight champion to show what he had. Of the 100 or so apparently connected punches, out of 400 thrown, the vast majority seemed to accomplish nothing.'

'Mayweather's right hand lead, to the solar plexus and to the face, became the story of this fight and it was beautiful to watch. When McGregor threw his left it fell short, or connected on Mayweather's forearms, or Mayweather crunched to take it on his abdomen.'

'he began to tire in the fourth round. Interestingly, Mayweather rarely even attempted a proper tie up, never giving McGregor the opportunity to use the overhook.'

'He didn't look like a bum by any means, but equally he fell short in his sport specific conditioning and became the first man Mayweather had stopped (spare that controversial Ortiz finish) in a very long time.'

'While McGregor tired early and Mayweather was never out of control (aside from the round nine low blow, set up off that hanging on the neck), Conor McGregor looked far better than expected.'

The Nal

McGregor V. Mayweather: Read The Expert Opinion Of This Lad Who Fixes Our Printer

LollipopJimmy

So all over linkedin today, Conor was homeless and Dee took him off the streets and moved him into a tiny apartment and fed him daily.

You'd think he was some waif orphan the way people are carrying on. Crumlin and Lucan aren't exactly downtrodden parts of society. In fact the unemployment rate in Lucan is below the national average. I hate having to use Linkedin for work

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https://socceronsunday.com/article/mcgregor-play-real-madrid-football-match/

Sweet Science

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Great analysis wonder.

It confirms what I thought. Many boxing fans here are in denial about what conor achieved against floyd.

They say he was an embarrassment and pathetic.

Pure bias and shows them for what they are.

Who said that ?

Wheeliebin30

Great analysis wonder.

It confirms what I thought. Many boxing fans here are in denial about what conor achieved against floyd.

They say he was an embarrassment and pathetic.

Pure bias and shows them for what they are.

wonderfullife

Can't sleep so I'm like a recovering addict popping in for a post

I put together a small video of some (not all) of the moments that impressed me from Conor. (the descriptions are because I refer to them again down below).

0:01 - He throws 2 off-speed punches to keep Floyd's guard up and lands a hard left to body.

0:10 - favourite sequence of the entire fight. Conor fakes the left, fades around Floyd with a lovely Lomachenko-esque step and lands both punches of the combination clean enough despite Floyd framing with his elbow.

0:20 - A couple of lovely body shots.

0:32 - Outside slip (barely!), digs the right underhook and lands a left on clinch break....no power but a lovely use of an MMA-style.

0:40 - One of the many shoulder rolls Conor did, perfectly timed to deflect Floyd's left straight off target and come back with his own body shot.

1:01 - Lands another off-speed left straight and crushes Floyd with an accurate body shot.

1:12 - As close as we came in the fight to the legendary Rocky double-knockout

Floyd threw first (fractionally) and landed first but Conor landed heavier.

1:21 - Conor throws a left straight then a right straight to try open Floyd's guard. When both fail, he tries to (Lomachenko) strip Floyd's guard and land his left...he missed but I really appreciate that he tried it.

It's only a short bit of highlights but I found it impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2mwmWBgvg

The fact he landed some of it cleanly against Floyd is amazing and the more I watch round 8 the more impressed I am, because Floyd was 100% going for it in round 8 and Conor held his own in that round.

The jab/body jab, shoulder rolls, switch-steps, stance-switches, guard-strips, tight footwork and body-work were honestly surprisingly good given we've very rarely seen him do any of the above in MMA.

I get the strong impression that Conor & the team were studying Lomachenko like their life depended on it because Loma is the best southpaw who does those wrestling slide-bys and guard-strips.

0:25 - Loma uses his right hand to strip down the guard and land a left cross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytCbP-jz_k4

14:58 - Loma does a variation of the wrestling slide-by, uses bicep control to take his opponents back and when he turns he fires the right hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vilHjJrAko0

There's 3 reasons why Conor wasn't as effective when he tried to do them.

1. Lomachenko is a genius.
2. Conor isn't an elite pro boxer.
3. Floyd is a genius.

The reason Lomachenko makes it work when he takes his opponents back is that he makes his opponents turn towards him where he can land punishing shots while they are defenseless.

Floyd was wise to this and every time Conor took his back, Floyd put his hands up high and waited for the ref to stop the action. If he had turned to face Conor he too would have been defenseless and eating a left hand.

Firas Zahabi did a solid breakdown explaining the many techniques Conor employed to dominate the clinch. It's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFMOvEGmqNQ

Some of the "MMA approach" really did work, especially in the clinch but Conor's problem IMO was he didn't clinch enough. Knowing when to clinch is as important a skill in boxing as what to do when he gets there. He circled far too much when he should have been holding to relieve pressure.

Anyway, there is some really exciting development in Conor's boxing judging by this fight and I hope to God we never get to see his talent in a boxing ring ever again! They will be great skills to bring back to the cage but give up the oul' boxing

One last thought - I wouldn't be so sure he fights December 30th. It's Conor Jr's first ever Christmas and that shouldn't be forgotten in all this. Who knows but I'm sceptical. Conor is a family-oriented guy and I'm not sure he wants to be dragging Dee & Jr. to spend Xmas Day in Vegas while he's eating lettuce. I could be wrong but I could have sworn I heard an old interview with him where he said he absolutely hated the Xmas-time weight cutting for the Buchinger fight.

I think there's an outside chance he tries to get on the MSG card in early November for a quick turnaround because he's in phenomenal shape and he can't sit still for 2 minutes after he loses. If not, maybe the big March 2018 card I reckon because that'll be 2 years to the day of the Diaz 1 loss and would bring the trilogy full circle.