walshb wrote: » More silliness. It's not at all disrespectful to Conor, a man who is not a pro boxer, no matter what spin is put on it.. It is dismissive of Floyd, and rightly so. Spoofing and deceiving people into believing this to be a legitimately fair and honest boxing match.. You need to take your tongue out of his behind. Your constant fawning over the man is queasy!
walshb wrote: » What, where, when?
Eyes Down Field wrote: » By saying it's 49-0. You are saying that Conor McGregor is nothing. He may not have the boxing skill of Floyd Mayweather but deserves at the very least as much respect as the long list of cab drivers that Marciano faced in the 40s. Tell me the 1940's heavyweight equivalent of Castilio, Gati, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Canelo, Maidana and Pacquiao, All multiple time world champions at multiple different weight classes. People look back on the past with rose tinted specs. "The good old days" Call it arse licking all you want but the reality is Mayweather is a far superior boxer than Marciano ever was and the names on their records don't even compare
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Everyone saying the fight went how they predicted.... and the describing the fight in a way it didn't happen :P
Walshie about the only boxing forum regular that appears to have been able to watch the fight in an impartial fashion.
The reason Floyd only threw 28 punches in those first three rounds was because he was being constantly pressured by Conor. Of those 28 punches, only 12 of them landed and that was not because Floyd merely missed, or because he was taking it easy, what nonsense, the truth is Conor was slipping them.
In the end, the sheer volume of shots McGregor threw in those first five rounds resulted in him fatiguing and then when that gassing was apparent, Floyd finally grew some balls and started coming forward more (like he said he was going to do from the get go) but the risk was now largely gone for him and Conor was there for the taken. The fight was effectively over by the 6th and it was really just a matter of time before Floyd took him out.
People acting like they are geniuses for saying Floyd would win late in the fight if Conor couldn't manage the TKO are laughable. Sure that was the call of 99.9999999999% of people, including myself. There was nothing profound in suggesting that's how it would pan out.
McGregor took a risk fighting at the pace he did and it didn't pay off. There's no shame in that. He landed, slipped and countered some lovely shots in the process and by doing so proved a lot of the naysayers wrong (the ones with their heads up their arses, that had said that he wouldn't land so much as a punch). End of the day a guy fighting in his first ever professional boxing bout, took the fight to Floyd Mayweather, a fighter considered to be one of the greatest boxers of all time (particularly with regards to defense) and not only did he win rounds against him, he landed 111 punches as he did so. Impressive no matter which way you slice it.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Who said or even suggested there was anything wrong with him trying to get the fcuking fight for one of his fighters :rolleyes: You'd argue with your own shadow. The point (and an obvious one) was that he tried to make the McGregor fight himself and yet is now pretending to be offended that Mayweather got it:https://twitter.com/OscarDeLaHoya/status/901203246928101376 So, again (seeing as you tend to be slow on the uptake): I have no issue with anything De La Hoya said (or was he was attempting to do) in the clip, only with the hypocrisy of him now pretending to be offended on behalf of the sport of boxing.
walshb wrote: » wonder, your view on Conor the boxer from watching him? Do you still think he would have a chance against quality boxers? I was of the opinion no way before the fight.. I think that is confirmed for me now..
mfceiling wrote: » Lads if you think McGregor punched well you must have watched a different fight. His technique was atrocious and some of his punches were laughable (flopping an arm out with his other arm hanging by his side).
walshb wrote: » Oh, and Marciano breaks Floyd in half in a boxing match.. Yeh, he's a HW, blah blah blah... Not even sure why Rocky's record is being brought into it.. That record is reserved for HWs..
wonderfullife wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_2mwmWBgvg
Eyes Down Field wrote: » The whole point of the 49-0 nonsense is the pathetic attempt to diminish Mayweather's record. The record formally held by Marciano. You can't talk about the record without mentioning Marciano. The only reason he belongs in the same sentence as Mayweather' Marciano was an overrated boxer he fought fck all in one of the weakest eras of heavyweight boxing. The guys weren't even heavy weights. Marciano was 5ft 11, 190 pounds. He would be absolutely smashed by Liston, Ali, Fraizer, Foreman, Shavers, Tyson, Lewis, Both Klitschko' and Joshua to name a few
ThinkProgress wrote: » Conor is a good athlete by UFC standards... but the standard of athleticism in the UFC is not that great.
mdwexford wrote: » What a stupid thing to say. What are you basing that on?
wonderfullife wrote: » You literally need to give up watching combat sports if you think his punches were "laughable". He sat down on a lot of them and transferred his weight perfectly into them. Sure, he threw plenty of nothing shots from the arm with no weight into them but a lot of them were thrown to keep Floyd's hands up to work the body.
Honestly the level of delusion required to believe Floyd enjoys being punched in the face and body, and therefore allowed Conor to hit him, is worse than the delusion I had thinking Conor could win a decision! (and that was some grade A delusion!)
rebelomar wrote: » The ref did him a favour with the stoppage because two or three more shots could have hurt him badly imo. Maybe against a bigger puncher they would have pulled him out, who knows.
ThinkProgress wrote: » But again... who really gives a sh!t either way??
ThinkProgress wrote: » And after all your delusions, what makes you think that your opinions should be given much credence by anyone?
ThinkProgress wrote: » The fact you actually think Conor has a chance to win round(s) on the scorecard, shows how little you actually understand about the sport... it's actually funny to read.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Oh give me a fcuking break. Had a boxing forum regular on here said that De La Hoya was full of it when he claimed Mayweather & McGregor were "disrespecting the sport of boxing" given that he himself had tried to get the fight for one of his own fighters.......... you'd most likely have thanked their post. You're just nit picking and saying "Who really gives a sh!t, who really gives a sh!t" over and over given that it was me that said it, as it's quite clear you have a chip on your shoulder given that I called you out on talking out your arse.
Pot. Kettle.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » He wins by TKO in the first three or he gets a boxing clinic if it goes past that stage.
ThinkProgress wrote: » Personally, I want to be fair to both Conor and Floyd... so I will not say, that those early rounds were 100% down to Floyd's gameplan! Conor played his part too, in making those early 2 or 3 rounds competitive... so hats off to him!
ThinkProgress wrote: » Some fight promoter... being a promoter... and you are losing your sh!t all over again!! :pac::pac:
I think de la Hoya is taking the wrong promotional approach constantly slating the fight, it's coming across petty and bitter.
So you believed in Conor's "touch of death left".... you drank the Koolaid a little bit there! It happens...
Now, back to your big TKO prediction:
Outlaw Pete wrote: » If I wasn't a McGregor fan, I'd be all over Mayweather by TKO @ roughly 5/2 on Betfair.
mdwexford wrote: » ThinkProgress wrote: » Conor is a good athlete by UFC standards... but the standard of athleticism in the UFC is not that great. What a stupid thing to say. What are you basing that on?
yourdeadwright wrote: » Now UFC and MMA is a younger sports so it'll take time to get kids who have been dedicated since a young age to come up ,.
ThinkProgress wrote: » So were you impressed with how he performed physically, against a much older man?? The older athlete had more power, stamina, speed etc Boxing and MMA are different, obviously... but still, Conor does throw punches for a living... he is predominantly a stand-up fighter. Conor is considered one of the best athletes in MMA... So should the gulf in athleticism be that wide, between him and 40 year old Floyd??
mdwexford wrote: » So you are basing the fitness of the entire UFC on one person, solid sample size. .
ThinkProgress wrote: ...the standard of athleticism in the UFC is not that great.
Mellor wrote: » You spend so much time moving to goal posts you forgot where you leave them half the time. :pac::pac::pac: You made a similar ridiculous claim about wrestling athleticism in the build up. But switched to "poor athleticism for boxing" when I called you on it. But here's a silly attempt to flip back :rolleyes: MMA and boxing are different sports, how do you keep conveniently forgeting that (when it suits). Usain bolt would struggle in a marathon. Kenenisa Bekele would be extremely weak in the 200m. Claiming either was unathletic would be tremendous nonsense. Yet there you go, again. Stick Floyd, or any top boxer, in a wrestling match and they would get systematically man handled. Absolutely ragdolled. Does that mean they are physically weak or unathletic? No. This is not complicated, in fact I'm certain you are already aware. But you insist on this semi-trolling act repeatedly. Are we not past that stage? Ditto Conor's power. Im you know the reason Floyd was unflinching was technical in nature not because "Conor has no power". And I'm preempting a "you are misunderstanding what I'm saying" goal post move. So I'll just highlight; No "...for boxing" implied there. To be really clear, Conor is not conditioned for a 12 rounds boxing match. The old adage goes to be a pro boxer you need to be a semi-pro runner. Conor has never been know for decent stamina. It's not his style, but importantly he's likely not built for it. Other MMA fighters are more suited to it, but still not specifically conditioned for boxing, because they are different sports. And, is worth pointing out that, a pro might have 10 or 15 fights under his belt before he books a 10 round fight. Just so I'm not completely having a go. You did admit that you got elements wrong, and that Conor did better than you anticipated. So credit where it's due for that. Floyd,