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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

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Mellor

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Joshua made nearly as much in 1 fight as Conor did in 3 though and he sold far less PPV's to do it.

The money is in PPV's if you're getting a fair share, as long as the UFC are taking the lions share of everything, he's still getting relative peanuts.

If he did 1 boxing match next year under his own banner and sold 1million PPVs he'd make more than he could in 4 UFC fights.
That's the sad reality.

Joshua made more per fight, but it was about half as much as McGregir overall afaik.

Joshua was something like $12m base plus $6m more in PPV points.
Canelo earned $26m in 2 fights (highest earning boxer)
Conor was $36m in 3 fights.

So per fight he is slightly behind. But he has the means to fight more frequently than those guys.

I do agree that the he'd make make more on his own. And I'm not suggesting the distribution in revenue is fair. But I don't think boxing is the template to model themselves on. Headliners might get a relatively bigger slice of the pie. Undercard boxers get crumbs.

Subcomandante Marcos

finbarrk wrote: »

I drank a pint of it in Westport I think last month . Didn't like it.

The red ipa? not a fan myself. O'Hara's make meh beer, their extra stout is a cracker though.

finbarrk

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Vertigo100 wrote: »

O haras have a red IPA the call notorious red

Yup. It's registered to Seamus O'Hara.

I drank a pint of it in Westport I think last month . Didn't like it.

Call Me Jimmy

Agree with Joe rogan about Conor fearing his own gas tank so much he wasn't putting enough into his punches, I felt it was very rare that he was attempting to put big power into his shots. Ye can say whatever about his power being overrated, but just from the way he was throwing a lot of them seemed extremely conservative.

Subcomandante Marcos

Vertigo100 wrote: »

O haras have a red IPA the call notorious red

Yup. It's registered to Seamus O'Hara.

Vertigo100

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Random Conor news item.

His company attempted to trademark the word Notorious for use in beer and spirits. Unfortunately in the two categories he applied it's already been awards to an Irish brewery over a year ago.

O haras have a red IPA the call notorious red

Subcomandante Marcos

Random Conor news item.

His company attempted to trademark the word Notorious for use in beer and spirits. Unfortunately in the two categories he applied it's already been awards to an Irish brewery over a year ago.

RoryMac

walshb wrote: »

4 and 5 worth revisiting..

I could be wrong but a score of 4-1 Conor after 5 may not be odd...

Just watched rd 4 and 5. Sky commentary on it's clear Floyd rds.

Commentary off and both rds competitive..

Floyd either 3-2 behind (giving him rds 4 and 5) or 4-1 behind giving him rd 4.

I re-watched just now with the commentary off and I'd give the first 3 rounds to McGregor. 4th was close too but Mayweather really stepped up the pace. I don't think McGregor took a forward step from the 4th till the end. While the boxing from either wasn't great the forward pressure from Mayweather was amazing.

5th & 6th to Mayweather but in the 6th McGregor landed some good body shots. 7th Mayweather piling on the pressure and McGregor really showing the strain. 8th was close again and could be given to either, think McGregor landed the better shots but there was no power in them. 9th & 10th dominant from Mayweather.

From the 4th McGregor couldn't catch a breath with Mayweather constantly in his face, neither really had the power to hurt the other but Mayweather fought smart. I'd take back my original view that Mayweather making McGregor miss was the reason he burnt out early, it was the constant pressure he couldn't deal with

DuffleBag

Nobody wants to see Paulie fight anyone... even if it was McGregor. You think the Americans would pay 100 for that ****e?

JJayoo

McG Vs Paulie with Mayweather promotions.

This is in the works, when McG is about 33 and Paulie is 42 and obese

Sofiztikated

And he won't confirm if it was a punch or a push, that he doesn't know.

Sofiztikated

Joe Cortez on MMA hour now saying that boxing and MMA crossovers could be a good thing for both sides.

And says he's open to MMA fighters contacting him regarding boxing fundamentals.

darced

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Subcomandante Marcos

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Khabib won't make 155 though. He ended up on the ER last time he tried to cut. It's a fight I'd like to see though

He'll make 55 again no bother, whatever happened last time doesn't mean he can't make 55, it just means he has to do it properly. The UFC have said next time he'll be doing his cut in the PI under the supervision of their doctors, he'll make it easily IMHO.

They'll do Khabib vs Barboza or someone else in the next few months and then they'll give him next after the winner of Ferguson and Lee.

The Nal

Would love to see McGregor vs Khabib but McGregor (rightly) won't fight him until Khabib clocks up a few in a row. He missed weight for a fight and pulled out of three fights with injury and pulled out of the last one cutting weight. So thats 4 missed fights he had scheduled and a missed weight.

I think Khabib wins that fight if/when it happens.

martyos121

Zero-Cool wrote: »

As much as the kicks helped last time, he has said a few times now '**** leg kicks' referring to Diaz 2, dunno if he'd put his legs through that again especially if Nate planned for it and upped his checking game.

Yeah, I'd like to think that with the weight cut and previous damage, Nate's chin would be more susceptible to a KO but no way would I build a gamelan around it.

Gimme Khabib any day, Conor would just have to stuff a few takedowns and he'd have the KO in the 1st.

Diaz just doesn't strike me as the type to ever be able to check leg kicks, they'll always work against him. He's so heavy on the lead leg that all McGregor has to do after a check is land an average enough jab to knock him way off balance and then swarm.

pastorbarrett

Accurate or not, it's an odd dichotomy to know McGregor has gone 10 rounds with an elite boxer yet perhaps seemingly laid bare his greatest weakness in doing so. Upcoming opponents will now seek to survive as best as they can so as to maximise their return in later rounds. Of course this was a known entity somewhat, evident in both Diaz fights already. However, one senses that, ironically, confidence going in against McGregor now will be higher than it might have been pre-Floyd. Coaches and fighters alike will now be saying to themselves this guy fades, and fast...

What remains to be seen is just how well McGregor's improved boxing acumen will translate into MMA. And of course, you don't need the greatest engine in the world if you can put people away early.

Diaz 3 is a scary prospect for him, even at 155. Amongst the greatest engines in the UFC with the ability to take shots. Jaysus...

I know little about the science of cardio but it'd be interesting to know if he can improve from here or is he just naturally an explosive/ front-runner/ fast-twitch type athlete. I'd also really hope he can put the partying to bed - you don't need to be an expert to know that's never going to help.

Anyways, what a ride that all was. Consumed so much content pre-fight my head is still nigh-on exploding. Don't think any less of him for it, nor would anyone with an even the slightest appreciation for a true competitor seeking to surmount the impossible. Equal parts nervous and excited for what comes next...

LollipopJimmy

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Also, it's lovely to be talking about MMA in here again.

I was just thinking it was nice to be able to chat again. No more attacking

Sofiztikated

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I'd love if that's the case AK, get back in the Octagon, get a load of rounds in and get back to 5x5's.

Also, it's lovely to be talking about MMA in here again.

This is an MMA forum!?

Fook that. I'm out.

LollipopJimmy

Zero-Cool wrote: »

As much as the kicks helped last time, he has said a few times now '**** leg kicks' referring to Diaz 2, dunno if he'd put his legs through that again especially if Nate planned for it and upped his checking game.

Yeah, I'd like to think that with the weight cut and previous damage, Nate's chin would be more susceptible to a KO but no way would I build a gamelan around it.

Gimme Khabib any day, Conor would just have to stuff a few takedowns and he'd have the KO in the 1st.

Khabib won't make 155 though. He ended up on the ER last time he tried to cut. It's a fight I'd like to see though

Zero-Cool

I'd love if that's the case AK, get back in the Octagon, get a load of rounds in and get back to 5x5's.

Also, it's lovely to be talking about MMA in here again.

Zero-Cool

As much as the kicks helped last time, he has said a few times now '**** leg kicks' referring to Diaz 2, dunno if he'd put his legs through that again especially if Nate planned for it and upped his checking game.

Yeah, I'd like to think that with the weight cut and previous damage, Nate's chin would be more susceptible to a KO but no way would I build a gamelan around it.

Gimme Khabib any day, Conor would just have to stuff a few takedowns and he'd have the KO in the 1st.

.ak

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I thought 170 didn't suit him because of the gassing in both fights but now that it's happened at 155, I think it's his biggest problem at the moment and Diaz will be the hardest fight because of it. If he can get it sorted (if that's even something he can sort) I wouldn't mind seeing him at 170 again. Would much prefer if he stayed at 155 though.

Now, he should take a few mil and get the top doctors in the world to assess him physically and mentally to see what might help. I don't think FAST is gonna do the job.

He gassed in a boxing fight, it's a completely different conditioning required than any other sport. It takes years to train for that. He's a fit ****er, that wasn't the issue, he just wants going to train for that sort of output on his feet within a few months, no matter how many miles he did.

I really wouldn't worry about it. The 4th round against Diaz he was bit tired, but that was with a bigger man trying to wrestle him up against a solid cage. He then went on to finish strong. I don't think he has a cardio issue, put anyone who hasn't boxed all their life into a ring with a pro and they'll box themselves out too.

marcus001

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I thought 170 didn't suit him because of the gassing in both fights but now that it's happened at 155, I think it's his biggest problem at the moment and Diaz will be the hardest fight because of it. If he can get it sorted (if that's even something he can sort) I wouldn't mind seeing him at 170 again. Would much prefer if he stayed at 155 though.

Now, he should take a few mil and get the top doctors in the world to assess him physically and mentally to see what might help. I don't think FAST is gonna do the job.

He wasn't 155 there, he was emaciated at the weigh in and then fresh and bulky in the fight which means he cut a lot of weight to make 154. He was 165 at least, probably more. I thought he learned his lesson about being too heavy for Diaz. I think if he had fought at 155 he would have lasted the 12 rounds and become a folk hero.

Useful.Idiot

Nate's gameplan never changes. Conor would perform similar to or better than the second fight.

darced

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JJayoo

Will be the exact same game plan for Diaz 3, just leg kick all day.

JJayoo

Will be the exact same game plan for Diaz 3, just leg kick all day.

Sofiztikated

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I thought 170 didn't suit him because of the gassing in both fights but now that it's happened at 155, I think it's his biggest problem at the moment and Diaz will be the hardest fight because of it. If he can get it sorted (if that's even something he can sort) I wouldn't mind seeing him at 170 again. Would much prefer if he stayed at 155 though.

Now, he should take a few mil and get the top doctors in the world to assess him physically and mentally to see what might help. I don't think FAST is gonna do the job.

I thought Diaz 1, he looked sluggish all round.

Yeah, I'd imagine seeing Diaz walk through his punches again would just sap his will. He's not knocking Nate out, and that could be the beginning of the end.

I wonder how many cancellations of the FAST program has there been since?

Zero-Cool

I thought 170 didn't suit him because of the gassing in both fights but now that it's happened at 155, I think it's his biggest problem at the moment and Diaz will be the hardest fight because of it. If he can get it sorted (if that's even something he can sort) I wouldn't mind seeing him at 170 again. Would much prefer if he stayed at 155 though.

Now, he should take a few mil and get the top doctors in the world to assess him physically and mentally to see what might help. I don't think FAST is gonna do the job.