buzzinfly83 wrote: » Out of interest if he does go on to box Paulie how do you fancy his chances. I'd imagine Paulie outboxes him over 12 round to decision.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » I'd go for Paulie on points.
blade1 wrote: » Have ye learned anything lads??? Paulie tko all day long!!!!!!:pac:
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Paulie has no power and is tiny though.
ThinkProgress wrote: » You were wrong! There was never any realistic chance, that he could finish Floyd in the first 3... or any other 3.... his shots were nowhere near powerful enough to get the job done!
yourdeadwright wrote: » I don't get why Connor wasn't more aggressive he was never going to win a boxing match and he said he'd show something different but he just turned into a boxer, I really think his only chance was to rush Floyd and be super aggressive sure he'd more chance of being ko'd but he was always going to get beat if it lasted over 3 rounds,
mdwexford wrote: » section4 wrote: » Yes after you have made some effort to get out of it. He tapped very very quickly. Just like he dropped to the ground very very quickly after getting hit a few ****s on the chin. He critisied others for panicing after getting hit and he does the same.thing. Why was he running from a guy 20lbs lighter than him because he was not able to.exchange punches with him. What does that tell you about his power. I dont know.much about martial.arts only started shukokai karate in 75 and boxing in 76. So only about 40 years exp. If you have no energy and it's properly sunk in then it's time to tap. He was getting smacked around by a superior fighter and had no energy. Your advice would have been to stand and trade and get hit more? Solid. I couldn't care less what you claim to train in. Using words like mctapper and mchugger is something a child would do. Claiming he was fighting midgets in the UFC is uneducated and ignorant. Claiming boxing is a real fight compared to mma is laughable. All in all, your post is clueless nonsense.
section4 wrote: » Yes after you have made some effort to get out of it. He tapped very very quickly. Just like he dropped to the ground very very quickly after getting hit a few ****s on the chin. He critisied others for panicing after getting hit and he does the same.thing. Why was he running from a guy 20lbs lighter than him because he was not able to.exchange punches with him. What does that tell you about his power. I dont know.much about martial.arts only started shukokai karate in 75 and boxing in 76. So only about 40 years exp.
Sweet Science wrote: » Isn't it etiquette to tap when you know you cant get out of a submission ?
Sweet Science wrote: » Yeah im pretty sure it is . And its frowned upon if you dont tap . Maybe Mellor can confirm
section4 wrote: » So you think its great for conor to demean his opponents by acting the maggot but you dont like it when the truth is told about him. He and his team were walking about like they were some kind of zen masters and he had never been beat and talking like nobody else knew nothing. And his fans ate it hook line and sinker. Conor is a salesman. He is good at that. He is a good mma fighter. He is good at that not great. When you listen to all this i am boxing nonsese and watch his fans beleive it then. Thats fine. you cant have a problem when he is talked about in the same.manner by people who see through the nonsense. He made a lot of money. Thats all he cared about.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » I wasn't wrong. You only emboldened half my sentence. The second half was "or he gets a boxing clinic if it goes past that stage". See, that's the kind of scurrilous nonsense you have to resort to in order to deflect away from the fact that you said McGregor would struggle to even land punches and laughed at the notion of him even winning a round. Quit trying to save face. That was my view before the fight too, but after it I no longer think that way tbh as up until he showed signs of fatigue, he slipped and countered very nicely. Walshie (to his credit and to which I argued against) said before the fight that he felt the enormity of the task/occasion might get to him and like I said, I disagreed, but I have to concede that he McGregor did look, not just nervous, but very stressed. Here's a screen grab just before the bell and I'd wager that's the highest Conor's blood pressure has ever been before a fight............ Hard to know to just what degree that would have effected his performance, if at all (depends on how long he was in that state I guess) but he was sure as a far cry away from his usual calm, focused self that we are used to seeing before fights, that's for sure. He lost the fight, no shame in that. Especially given the standard of the opposition and that it was McG's first ever professional bout. Landed lots and slipped many. Showed he has tons of heart and can damn well take a punch too. Ortiz was on his back from two love taps and he wasn't even gassed. Most of all though, I enjoyed the fight. Damn sight more than I did the MayPac fight, that's for sure.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » I wasn't wrong. You only emboldened half my sentence. The second half was "or he gets a boxing clinic if it goes past that stage". See, that's the kind of scurrilous nonsense you have to resort to in order to deflect away from the fact that you said McGregor would struggle to even land punches and laughed at the notion of him even winning a round. Quit trying to save face.
Walshie (to his credit and to which I argued against) said before the fight that he felt the enormity of the task/occasion might get to him and like I said, I disagreed, but I have to concede that he McGregor did look, not just nervous, but very stressed. Here's a screen grab just before the bell and I'd wager that's the highest Conor's blood pressure has ever been before a fight............
He lost the fight, no shame in that. Especially given the standard of the opposition and that it was McG's first ever professional bout. Landed lots and slipped many. Showed he has tons of heart and can damn well take a punch too. Ortiz was on his back from two love taps and he wasn't even gassed.
The Golden Miller wrote: » I've never seen as much rubbish continually churned out by one person. The way you and a few others go on it's as if Conor can do anything he wants as long as he doesn't gas in fights, irregardless of what the opponent does i.e nothing but a bunch of "if" merchants. The laughable thing is the fact Floyd was fighting an exhibition bout seems to go completely over your head. You're here talking about Conor doing as well as the likes of Ortiz, when Mayweather actually took those fights seriously. People like you really make it hard to like McGregor sometimes
ThinkProgress wrote: » I actually said this too... not sure which of us brought it up first, but it was definitely something I considered a possibility too!
The Golden Miller wrote: » The way you and a few others go on it's as if Conor can do anything he wants as long as he doesn't gas in fights, irregardless of what the opponent does i.e nothing but a bunch of "if" merchants.
You're here talking about Conor doing as well as the likes of Ortiz, when Mayweather actually took those fights seriously.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Not that McGregor didn't show he could take a punch, he certainly did. A lot of fighters would have been down in that 9th round, let alone 10th.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Nope, just stating the facts. It's bullshit that Floyd was in some kind of exhibition mode the first half of the fight.
ThinkProgress wrote: » Nope... you clearly thought Conor had a chance of finishing Floyd in the first 3 rounds. You were wrong in your prediction! Simple as that...
Floyd was actually the REAL power puncher in that ring! Not Conor!
walshb wrote: » I disagree here, and it's actually not a slight on Conor, but Floyd. His finishing was terrible. Didn't connect really clean enough..and the shots he did land with were far from dynamite. Plenty top class boxers would have had Conor on a stretcher in no time in a similar position.. Plenty would have taken and survived that finishing. It was not ruthless or heavy.
Burial. wrote: » Super post Stringer. Bang on the money. Rewatched the fight there. Byrd with one of the worst reffing performances in recent memory. Granted Conor is a novice and can't be expected to know the ins and outs of all the rules, but how he let him get away with constantly breaking the rules with holding the neck and rabbit punching is beyond me. Probably knew deep down it would make f*ck all difference anyway but you're there to protect both fighters regardless. At least he got the stoppage correct. Conor's efforts look worse viewing the fight completely sober now. Still gave everything he got, can't fault him there.
mada999 wrote: » if you are going on the rules then you can throw in how the ref didn't caution Mayweather on turning his back or ducking below the waist... but anyway...
Morrison J wrote: » Lot of the reaction to this fight kinda reminds me of GGG-Brook. People trying to make a case for the underdog being in the fight and greatly exceeding expectations when really it was just the favourite coasting with zero fear of his opponent's power.
Sweet Science wrote: » I was thinking the same earlier . Floyds hands really were bunched though I thought he was just building the fight . Didn't spar or really do much padwork. He was on the money when he said he picked the right dance partner for his 50-0
walshb wrote: » It was me. Said it on the MMA forum weeks before (I think) I said it on the boxing forum.. I posed it as a thought a possibility and the MMA Conor lads took it as me almost attacking Conor.. Anyway, looks or feelings aside as regards Conor in the ring before bell 1, he didn't seem to fight "nervy" or "shook." But his visible tiring after 12 mins of action, was it as much nerves and mental as actual physical fatigue?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » I'm not sure you understand what chance means................................. If I say there is a 50% chance of a coin landing on tails, and then it lands on heads...... that doesn't mean I was wrong to initially say it had a 50% chance of landing on tails.
Incidentally, I have never been one to argue that McGregor was this big power puncher as I felt the truth was nobody really knew.
All you're doing is trying in vain to even up the score given that I got you on talking out your arse saying that McGregor wouldn't land punches nor win a round and that anyone who thought he would, didn't know the sport. That was wrong on a different stratosphere, chief. He clearly showed that landing on Floyd was easy enough for him.... hard luck.
wonderfullife wrote: » I just want to say one more thing about this fight. I think most fair people agree that Floyd coasted through the first 3 rounds to suss out what Conor had to offer before turning up the gas from round 4 onwards where he genuinely looked to walk Conor down and finish him. He virtually conceded the opening the 3 rounds. That being said if Conor was a complete boxing goon, he wouldn't have won a single round even if Floyd was coasting and certainly wouldn't have lasted 10. Now, round 8 is the telling round. It was close enough that Steve Farhood gave it to Conor on the Showtime broadcast and Steve is no fan of Conor. The punch stats in the round were close, (power punches 15 v 12), Conor's accuracy was his best of the entire fight (43%) and I've gone through many scorecards of boxing writers and loads gave round 8 to Conor. I felt like Floyd won round 8 myself but it was close. The fact that Conor was that competitive in round 8 while Floyd was clearly walking him down should speak volumes. It's one thing winning rounds while Floyd is coasting but to have 3 minutes of action where Floyd is full throttle and to make the round wafer-thin on the scorecards is a seriously impressive feat for his first boxing match. I feel like the fight will benefit Canelo-GGG in the end because so many casuals tuned in and from the casual standpoint it was a pretty entertaining fight with a stoppage. I think de la Hoya is taking the wrong promotional approach constantly slating the fight, it's coming across petty and bitter.
