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Tyrone GAA Discussion Thread

JB81

Hi All

Just wondering what people think of the obvious changes that are taking place in the Tyrone set up and how it bodes for the future.
Taking into the account the retirement of double All-Ireland winner Kevin 'Hub' Hughes this week to add to Enda MCGinley, Brian Dooher, Philip Jordan, Ciaran Gourley & Brian McGuigan.

Take these out of the fantastic Triple All-Ireland winning squad and you would be forgiven for thinking its the end of the road. However they have still won and competed well in Minor and U-21 All Ireland in the last few years. so do people think that these youngsters coming in and with the likes of Stephen O'Neill, Owen Mulligan, Sean Kavanagh, Conor Gormley, Ricey McMenamim, McMahon brothers that Tyrone can rise once again?

JB

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BonnieSituation

mfceiling wrote: »

Hey there's nothing wrong with dungannon people!!

Anyway...team unchanged for the armagh game.

I never said there was. You're fierce uptight... Like a Coalisland person.

mfceiling

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I never said there was. You're fierce uptight... Like a Coalisland person.

You're getting worse!! I'm originally from about 2 miles from Coalisland and 4 miles from dungannon!!

Jayop

That's why your so uptight. Until you get drunk and then you're just rowdy.

Jayop

Put them back on their arses for another five years or so. Not even a good performance and still hammered them. Happy days.

Stoner

Jayop wrote:

Put them back on their arses for another five years or so. Not even a good performance and still hammered them. Happy days.

It was an excellent performance. Very fast hands , three goals looking fast, fit and dangerous.

It will be a great game, just don't wind yourself up talking pony about your opinions on Dublin getting handy frees, Cooper Diving and everyone hating Tyrone. You sound beaten already!

This could be the game of the year. You should open the match thread on it and be nice, win people over

Dyr

Stoner wrote: »

It was an excellent performance. Very fast hands , three goals looking fast, fit and dangerous.

It will be a great game, just don't wind yourself up talking pony about your opinions on Dublin getting handy frees, Cooper Diving and everyone hating Tyrone. You sound beaten already!

This could be the game of the year. You should open the match thread on it and be nice, win people over

Poor Jayop cant help channeling his inherent Tyrone scorpiness on days like this.

Tyrone buried their chances today, dublin fluffed theirs (yet again) that could be a big difference in the semis

Jayop

Lads I even get stick from the other Tyrone poster here. I honestly couldn't give a flying what people think of me. I'll call it as I see it. You go to Dublin to play Dublin or Kerry then you want a 5 point margin for a one point win. It is what it is. I still think Tyrone will give Dublin their fill in the semi and I'll say it now, the winner of the all Ireland comes from that game.

Dyr

Jayop wrote: »

Lads I even get stick from the other Tyrone poster here. I honestly couldn't give a flying what people think of me. I'll call it as I see it. You go to Dublin to play Dublin or Kerry then you want a 5 point margin for a one point win. It is what it is. I still think Tyrone will give Dublin their fill in the semi and I'll say it now, the winner of the all Ireland comes from that game.

I'd agree, I think Tyrone are nearly built from scratch to beat dublin and if they they do a number on them I'd fancy them to go all the way

BonnieSituation

Jayop wrote: »

Lads I even get stick from the other Tyrone poster here. I honestly couldn't give a flying what people think of me. I'll call it as I see it. You go to Dublin to play Dublin or Kerry then you want a 5 point margin for a one point win. It is what it is. I still think Tyrone will give Dublin their fill in the semi and I'll say it now, the winner of the all Ireland comes from that game.

You'd be right.

Jayop

The worst part of the whole thing now is a bloody three week wait.

Saint Sonner

Serious question

Now that the following phrase is redundant in 2017:
Armagh 4 Apples; Tyrone 4 SAM
What is the equivalent for Dublin?

BonnieSituation

Saint Sonner wrote: »

Serious question

Now that the following phrase is redundant in 2017:
Armagh 4 Apples; Tyrone 4 SAM
What is the equivalent for Dublin?

Dublin4Athletes/Financial Doping

Something like that...

Still Mayo4Sambos is the best of the lot

Jayop

Dublin for Coddle?
Kerry for Fungy?

keane2097

Kerry for your holidays

BonnieSituation

keane2097 wrote: »

Kerry for your holidays

I'm decidedly a West Cork man these days. Warmer welcome for Dubs in August.

SecretsOfEarth

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I'm decidedly a West Cork man these days. Warmer welcome for Dubs in August.

They haven't much else to be doing, in all fairness...they need all they can get :pac:

BonnieSituation

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

They haven't much else to be doing, in all fairness...they need all they can get :pac:

Sailing and pudding. Plenty to bring doing.

Jayop

I somehow manage to feel like both of these gifs at exactly the same time. Roll on Sunday afternoon te feck.

Trying soo hard to behave myself here.

BonnieSituation

The Ardboe and Moy scuts have been very quiet this week. A little too quiet.

Jayop

Ah it all starts today really. Yesterday was for digesting the last game, this week will be all about build up to the two other games. I'm kinda glad there's a replay on Sunday and the whole circus isn't focused on Tyrone/Dublin although I likely will read every single printed word in the build up to the game.

BonnieSituation

Jayop wrote: »

Ah it all starts today really. Yesterday was for digesting the last game, this week will be all about build up to the two other games. I'm kinda glad there's a replay on Sunday and the whole circus isn't focused on Tyrone/Dublin although I likely will read every single printed word in the build up to the game.

I can't wait for Darragh's insight on Wednesday.

Did ya hear Joe Mac on OTB earlier?

Jayop

Yeah radio cut off in the car on the way back to the office, but I got the full podcast there. Good stuff actually. Nice to hear a Dub admit that the pick up in 95 was perfect

Jayop

Enjoyed this article from Cahir O'kane in the Irish News.

http://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2017/08/22/news/the-ref-and-the-rain-hold-the-key-for-tyrone-1116756/

Basically saying we need two big things out of our control to be on our sides to beat Dublin as well as playing very well ourselves and he's not far wrong. They're tied in together too.

1) The referee. Like myself he says Gough would have suited Tyrone a lot more for this game given he's much more reliable as to what he's going to give as a free across the whole 70 minutes. Our tackling has been excellent this year, maybe the best I've ever seen and our freecount has been tiny. Against Donegal this year we only conceded 8 free's the whole game, and with Rock and Cluxton for Dublin you need to keep that free count very low. Likewise I think Dublin will be very cynical about where they foul Tyrone. Anywhere outside the 40 is a free foul for them as we'll not be kicking them over from that range. Gough was very good at the start of the league game before he decided Dublin needed some help and sent Bradley off and gave them some crazy frees. Happy enough with Goldrick. If he can run the game the way he ran the Down Monaghan game, allowing for good physical challenges then we have a chance. If he's very fussy then we're beat before we go out.

2) The weather. This ties into the ref a lot because hopefully if it's teeming rain he'll allow for that in the tackle. It's also going to effect the Dublin attack more than ours. Dublin also don't tend to score as heavily in very bad rain (Monaghan this year aside) so if that and our tackling/turnovers restricts them to 15/16 points then we have a chance.

Of course as it stands now it's actually giving for a fine day on Sunday so we'll have to hope our prayers are answered.

Stoner

Jayop wrote:

2) The weather. This ties into the ref a lot because hopefully if it's teeming rain he'll allow for that in the tackle. It's also going to effect the Dublin attack more than ours. Dublin also don't tend to score as heavily in very bad rain (Monaghan this year aside).

Either do the opposition though, Kerry Dublin 2015 Brogan and Gooch couldn't score at all

I don't see it suiting Tyrone anymore than Dublin.

Jayop

Stoner wrote: »

Either do the opposition though, Kerry Dublin 2015 Brogan and Gooch couldn't score at all

I don't see it suiting Tyrone anymore than Dublin.

If something dulls your attack by 40% then that's a lot more than dulling ours by 40 and therefore we'd have a narrower margin to overcome.

We also don't attack in quite the same way you do. I'd love to know what the average pass per shot ratio is from you win the ball to kicking a score attempt. I'd imagine that it's a lot higher than what ours is. Tyrone tend to turn the ball over Maybe take 1 kickpass, 2 handpasses and attempt to shoot. This craic we were doing of going over and back across the 40 is gone.

Bad weather will always suit the more defensive team imo.

Jayop

Tír Eoghain v Áth Cliath
27ú Lúnasa 2017 @ 4.00pm
Páirc an Chrócaigh

1 – Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc – 63 (20)
2 – Aidan McCrory – Aireagal Chiaráin – 99 (27)
3 – Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin – 66 (21)
4 – Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór – 101 (28)
5 – Tiernan McCann – Coill an Chlochair – 58 (17)
6 – Pádraig Hampsey – Oileán a’Ghuail – 24 (6)
7 – Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin – 120 (41)
8 – Colm Cavanagh – An Mhaigh – 138 (52)
9 – Conall McCann – Coill an Chlochair – 30 (8) -
10 – David Mulgrew – Ard Bó – 9 (4)
11 – Niall Sludden – An Droim Mór – 31 (9)
12 – Kieran McGeary – Cabhán a’Chaortainn 21 (7) - McClure
13 – Mark Bradley – Coill an Chlochair 37 (16)
14 – Sean Cavanagh (c) – An Mhaigh 238 (88)
15 – Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac 94 (31)

16 – Michael O’Neill – Cluain Eo – 24 (5)
17 – Lee Brennan – Trí Leac – 14 (2)
18 – Rory Brennan – Trí Leac – 29 (11)
19 – Frank Burns – Cabhan á Choarthainn – 5 (1)
19 – Michael Cassidy – Ard Bó – 1 (0)
20 – Richard Donnelly – Trí Leac – 16 (6)
21 – Declan McClure – Cluain Eo – 13 (4)
22 – Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc – 76 (29)
23 – Justin McMahon – An Omaigh – 110 (39)
24 – Padraig McNulty – Dún Geanainn – 38 (8)
25 – Conor Meyler – An Omaigh – 24 (7)
26 – Ronan O’Neill – An Omaigh – 67 (17)
Bainisteoir: Mickey Harte
Maor Fóirne: Gavin Devlin

Mulgrew starting in place of McClure. Everything else is as expected.

great that Mulgrew back starting after the showing he made the last day off the bench.

Grueller

Total neutral here. Just popped in to say that I think that ye will win tomorrow. It is exactly the type of game that Mickey Harte has specialised in masterminding over the last decade and a half.

Jayop

Grueller wrote: »

Total neutral here. Just popped in to say that I think that ye will win tomorrow. It is exactly the type of game that Mickey Harte has specialised in masterminding over the last decade and a half.

I hope to God you're right. I'm not overly confident about it but we'll give it a good rattle.

Oldtree

Yes the best of luck. I'll be shouting (albeit hoarsely) for ye

DoctaDee

Safe travels lads, don't be clogging up the M1 doing 50kph