scoey wrote: » Well about 99% of the population of Japan would agree with the assertion that a person born in Japan to two Irish parents isn't Japanese. That being Japanese is something distinct from a Japanese passport. That is an acceptable opinion in Japan. It is not an acceptable opinion to progressive ideologues like yourself, so anyone who expresses a similar opinion about Europe is a nazi or fascist to you.
shaunr68 wrote: » The suspect arrested, Driss Oukabir, is a Moroccan who spent time in prison in 2012, "recently visited Morocco and arrived back in Barcelona on 13 August"http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/driss-oukabir-barcelona-attack-suspect-terror-van-incident-named-latest-news-updates-a7899171.html Why wasn't a non-EU national deported after serving a prison sentence and why was he readmitted after going to Morocco? Was he one of these?https://www.irishtimes.com/eyewitness-footage-shows-dinghy-of-migrants-landing-on-spanish-holiday-beach-1.3182390
Mahony0509 wrote: » Theres an ongoing incident in Cambrils, 60 miles outside of Barcelona, reports of shots fired, 3 dead and a possible explosive belt.
gitzy16v wrote: » You forgot the word Islamic.
mahamageehad wrote: » I feel a bit sorry for you if you go through life constrained by such tribalism to be honest. Yes, that's true, but I did say the majority though. The handling on these migrants now is what will determine how they act in 2 or 3 generations. I currently live in Germany and I can clearly see the tensions and differences between immigrant descendants and the new immigrants. Germany has plenty of issues, many related to their mass import of Turks and other easterners 30 or 40 years ago. They made a lot of mistakes then, which they are aiming to correct with this batch of migrants. Is it an ideal system? No. Do I feel as safe here as I do in Ireland? Yes. I think rabble rabble borders has its place, but a simple thing we (and we here means all European countries) should be doing is tracking ANYONE that visits any arab-centric problem countries. We have border patrol, these people should be flagged, tracked and monitored. I have a friend teaching in UAE, she has visited Saudi and Oman in recent years. She should 100% be pulled aside on re-entry to Ireland. If she tries to rent a van, it should raise flags. Simple things. Extremist websites should also be tracked. People won't like that because it's getting too close to nanny-state rules, but the simple fact is that a lot of this radicalisation is happening over the internet. For migrants that we accept, integration needs to be of utmost importance and they should be separated out and not allowed to form gangs and ghettos. Do we still stop refugees from working in Ireland? All of that applies to refugees and people seeking refuge by the way. If someone is coming here to work and be a productive member of society, and they can pay their own way, fair play to them. As long as they get the right visas, I've no issues.
Mahony0509 wrote: » Reading rumours that there were 5 terrorists with suicide belts, 4 gunned down by police and one wounded.
tomwaterford wrote: » Where read this?? Seems a pretty large cell of ture....wonder if they were planning cordinates attacks and have been forced into action early after the attack today A serious cut off at mass murder if ture....
gitzy16v wrote: » We are going round and round in circles here folks...Islam is the problem here...read up the history...ever since it was formed its trying to rule over all others... I read a post somewhere,maybe on boards,that if you look at where Islam is bordering other cultures around the world its involved in conflicts with all of them from the Far East to Central and West Africa into Europe...Islamic terrorists are fighting on all these fronts expanding this wretched ideology.
Mahony0509 wrote: » If you search Cambrils on twitter, residents are tweeting. Its all in Spanish so I'm relying on Google translate.
The Backwards Man wrote: » Nope. Extremists will always find a pronoun to latch onto.
Danzy wrote: » If they want to target those responsible for wars in the Middle East, they should go to the British Labour Conference or an army barracks.
Mahony0509 wrote: » https://twitter.com/policia/status/898331130574774272
dublinman1990 wrote: » It says in English that is there is another possible terrorist attack in the Cambrils area of Spain.
zerks wrote: » Isn't that the area that's hugely popular with Irish families?
StinkyMunkey wrote: » Love the way all the bigots jump at the chance to label 1 billion people as following a evil religion. The bigots are foaming at the mouth telling us just how bad all immigrants are, but fail to mention that Irish emigrants moved to every part of the globe. The evil scum who perpertrated These heinous crimes are simply following the new trend of using vehicles are weapons - monkey see, monkey do. There are evil ****tards in every religion, people who are pure scum, i count bigots among their numbers. ****ing sickening attack, my worst nightmare come true. Children lie dead on the pavement and people are more interested in attacking a religion than talking about the real reason any of this started - western policy in the Middle East. Unfortunately innocents are paying for the crimes of certain western governments retarded foreign polices.
Sweet Prince wrote: » But that's another problem rife in a liberal mind-set (not saying you are liberal). Its that if you don't treat everyone as absolutely the same, you are doing something wrong and therefore must be a very sad individual. Its an incorrect assumption. I see things the way they are. It doesn't mean that I go through life being miserly or sad or frustrated. Quite to the contrary. It just means that I can act accordingly and in an informed manner. I will help people when I can, but I also know the line the draw when its actively working against me. Most people can easily see the familial attachment of brothers mothers, sisters etc, but then inexplicably become blind once the EXACT SAME PRINCIPLE gets a bit bigger, ie community-wide, heritage-wise etc. Though maybe not inexplicable. Theres a phenomenon observed amongst avian species where they have an ability to "count". They can count the number of eggs they have laid, up to about 5 or 6. So if they come back and only four are there, they know somethings wrong. But heres the interesting part, they wont notice if they had 9 eggs, and now there are 6. They are blind to it. So perhaps an extended analogy can be applied to people who quite literally cannot see beyond their immediate genetic connection. An inherent flaw when faced with competitors entering their space? A logical assumption.
shaunr68 wrote: » Or the Kremlin perhaps, since the leaders of Al Qaeda and IS all cut their teeth fighting with the Mujahadeen against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.
Raving_Magic wrote: » I'm going to Spain next week and seeing this attack on Cambrils, a popular tourist destination and close to Salou, getting hunted for terrorists is making my stomach turn....:(
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