rangler1 wrote: » Only one solution , withdraw supplies, until that's done the ''mouthpieces'' are the only ones that are actually doing anything. When we were trying to thrash out the new National Roads Deal years ago it wasn't a lot of help to us when the NRA were claiming that ''there's deals being done'' Breakeven cost of silage is over €25/bale....plenty being bought at €20 and it's farmers that's the offenders there
Cavanjack wrote: » I think we have this same conversation every year when prices drop. What can we do about it? Not very much as individuals but there is a problem in the industry as far as competition goes. Heard nothing about producer groups this while. Wonder would they be any addition.
Willfarman wrote: » Boats boats and more boats! Ship the calves, ship the weanlings ship the fat cattle. It's the only hope we have.
Bass Reeves wrote: » Rangler you are always on about the great deal the IFA did on roads. However this was only of benifit to those who's land was effected. As a farming organisation it bread and butter should be what effect ordinary farmers which is beef, lamb, milk etc prices. While the roads deal may have been a gpood deal it is not the raison d'etra for a farm organisation.
gerryirl wrote: » so what you recommend Rangler.. We are caught every way. Age (under 30 months) weight was (cut off 420kg think 450kg now) grading sytem (Fat lean etc) Keep them and they go over 30 months and start getting fat and over weight. Its a no win situation. You lose both ways. everyone knows the factories have shed loads of cattle to kill themselves if the farmer stops sending
rangler1 wrote: » I'm just saying that blaming someone for doing nothing when in effect there is nothing can be done is a bit immature. The factories keeping their own cattle really strenghtens their hand and now I hear they're going to do the same with the sheep. get farmers to contract feed lambs for scarce time
Willfarman wrote: » I think you are far from having your finger on the pulse regarding the lambs rangler. They they had thousands of lambs on rented catch crops in north wexford last winter and didn't work out as cheap as simply bringing them across from the uk. They aren't bothering this year and word is one Icm associated enterprise is turning its attention to bull beef. Importing 2 thousand bulls from Germany.
dzer2 wrote: » Its pretty simple lads stop paying through the nose for waste of dairy farms.:eek: Stop bidding each other to death at the ring and drive the ****e out of anything the agents bid on.:D Only buy small butty cattle that will never be over weight.:rolleyes: dont buy a heap of meal to fatten them.:o The only way to make money is sit on your hands and dont spend:D:D:D
gerryirl wrote: » rangler no need to get personal by calling me immature Of course there is something that can be done. Its frustrating. We had the half arse block of the factories a couple years ago and not much has changed since that. Farm familys are struggling out there big time. There is only so long it will last
charolais0153 wrote: » If they're struggling why don't they try and change something like go into dairy or sheep. Or contract rearing or renting the land?
Willfarman wrote: » I don't like getting up early so no one to milk the cows unless I could get a good doley. I have all the sheep that the neighbours will tolerate. I don't like I'm too contrary to enter any contract with anyone and if I set the place I'd never get outa bed and most likely die of a combination of alcoholism and chronic masturbation. No I'll hang on and wait for the cheap stores!
charolais0153 wrote: » Aye, are ya struggling though.
gerryirl wrote: » Dairy setup cost from scratch would be huge money and many men not setup for sheep farming either but yes renting you'd probably make more. There not the answer though long trem
gerryirl wrote: » many men not setup for sheep farming
kk.man wrote: » Quoted 3.85 for bullocks this week next week 3.80.
Cavanjack wrote: » Was looking back at this time last year it was down to€3.75
kk.man wrote: » After the Galway races they pull cattle prices.
charolais0153 wrote: » Well there's absolutely no point complaining when your not willing to stop supplying the factories with cheap cattle when they snap there fingers If lads were to kill cattle at circa 22-24monrhs three a hell of a lot less meat for the factories to work with and you're not going to have to worry about limits and it's a lot handier have 600kg bullocks than 800kg lads on softer ground, Forgot that anybody that has sheep was automatically set up for them :rolleyes:
gerryirl wrote: » can I ask what sort of farming you do ..lol
whelan2 wrote: » Without getting into a row . I have learnt that p6 doesnot like anyone disagreeing with him. Anyways, anyone sell culls lately? Also 11 year old Angus bull to go too.
Willfarman wrote: » Struggling like pig like these poor aul divils https://amp.independent.ie/business/farming/beef-barons-worth-over-2billion-34475145.html
blue5000 wrote: » Cows 3.30 for Os and 3.55 Rs Don't know about the bull, a lot depends on fat cover.
