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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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Outlaw Pete

Sweet Science wrote: »

I cant access the link but they are loking to get into boxing ?

Yeah, looks that way, he also wore a Zuffa Boxing t-shirt on the World Tour:

Actually, it's really back into boxing rather than get into it as Dana used to be a boxer, owned some boxing gyms and was a boxing promoter early on also. In his boxing gym days he was ran out of Boston by Whitey Bulger. Effectively his life was under threat. So he went to Vegas.

Talks about it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBQXc_xvX7Y

Gamebred

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Actually, it's really back into Boxing as Dana used to be a boxer, owned some boxing gyms and was a boxing promoter early on also. In his boxing gym days he was ran out of Boston by Whitey Bulger. Effectively his life was under threat. So he went to Vegas.

Pretty sure he was found to be spoofing about that.

Outlaw Pete

Gamebred wrote: »

Pretty sure he was found to be spoofing about that.

Heard it was a spoof, but thought the spoof was debunked in the end.

Hard to know with Dana I guess.

wonderfullife

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Does anyone know approx how many seats are sold for the upcoming fight so far?

I believe it's something like 14,900 out of 16,800 sold with the current gate standing close (ish) to $70 million, but that's just looking at a map on ticketmaster and being too lazy to count them.

There's definitely above 14,000 sold anyway.

Whatever the rest amounts to, they can sell them very easily through hotels/comps etc if they want to.

The whole ticket sales situation was butchered from the outset. The demand was insane during the World Tour. If the tickets went on sale that week and weren't restricted to 2-per-person, you'd have had the place sell out in minutes. Instead they went through #verifiedfan restrictions.

Worth pointing out - Floyd v Manny set the gate record of $72.1 million which is over triple the next best ever boxing gate (Floyd v Canelo) but they only sold 500 tickets to the public for that fight.

This time around, they tried to sell closer to 4,000 tickets to the public. It was a brave decision to release so many to the public when they could have sold the whole lot to the big Vegas hotels but they took the decision.

TL;DR - It's going to beat the Floyd-Manny Gate Record and be the biggest of all-time.

Mellor

Sweet Science wrote: »

I think its naive to think the fight could/would of happened without him coming to an agreement with the UFC. Conor wouldnt of been willing to railroad his MMA career for an extra 50million ? They also would of dragged this thorugh the legal system out of spite and dragged it out for years . Conor knew they would play hardball if he tried cut them out so had no option but to come to an agreement

He came to an agreement because it was probably worth more to do so.
Not because he's employee with MMA fights on his contract, which was the claim.
If you agreeing that it was the smarter move that's fine, but it's not what the previous 3 or 4 posters said.

And It's a federal act, they wouldn't be tying it up in court for any length of time. They could bring civil suit against him if they were bitter. Who knows how that'd go. Wouldn't stop the fight though.

wonderfullife

pac_man wrote: »

What is Zuffa Boxing?

The UFC's parent company was Zuffa before they were bought out by WME/IMG.

They've retained the Zuffa brand and they registered Zuffa Boxing as it's own entity, so when you see "Zuffa boxing" it's basically the same as Golden Boy Promotions or TMT or Eddie Hearn's stable. Just a promotional company.

I.e. The UFC are getting into boxing promoting.

wonderfullife

Mellor wrote: »

He came to an agreement because it was probably worth more to do so.
Not because he's employee with MMA fights on his contract, which was the claim.
If you agreeing that it was the smarter move that's fine, but it's not what the previous 3 or 4 posters said.

And It's a federal act, they wouldn't be tying it up in court for any length of time. They could bring civil suit against him if they were bitter. Who knows how that'd go. Wouldn't stop the fight though.

While all of this is correct I think a reason overlooked by many is Conor values loyalty above mostly anything. He's so grateful to Dana and Lorenzo Fertitta, so I think there's that element as well - that he'd view it as betraying them/a snake move to use the Ali Act to circumvent the UFC.

Plus, Dana hinted a few weeks ago that Conor will soon be a part-owner of the UFC

Sweet Science

wonderfullife wrote: »

The UFC's parent company was Zuffa before they were bought out by WME/IMG.

They've retained the Zuffa brand and they registered Zuffa Boxing as it's own entity, so when you see "Zuffa boxing" it's basically the same as Golden Boy Promotions or TMT or Eddie Hearn's stable. Just a promotional company.

I.e. The UFC are getting into boxing promoting.

That would be great for boxing

Sweet Science

I seen spinning attacks being mentioned for Conor to try. Fairytale stuff. This isnt Mortal Kombat

The Nal

Sweet Science wrote: »

I seen spinning attacks being mentioned for Conor to try. Fairytale stuff. This isnt Mortal Kombat

The possibility will sell the fight to casual fans. Not that he'd ever do it. Conors punches are far too long as it is.

A lot of people want to see a farce, and will pay to see it. The reality of course is that its just going to be an easy night for Mayweather, a clinic with a no mas type stoppage in the mid rounds. At best.

But wouldn't be at all surprised to see Mayweather knock him out within 90 seconds if the opportunity arises.

Frank Bullitt

Saw this over on Reddit.

Floyd Mayweather's accuracy and evasion in his past 10 fights: of 5150 strikes attempted on Floyd, only 1035 (20%) have connected. Of Floyd's 4443 attempted strikes, 1953 (44%) have connected.

pirlo80

Its looking like 8oz gloves according the Helwanis Twitter - Conor in 1 then John K yeh :-)

Morrison J

Good marketing is all that is. Obviously the promotion of this fight has been planned to the finest detail. Every single story making it look like a closer fight than it is.

Eyes Down Field

Nice little new recap documentary on Mayweather here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-SrUAu9SFQ

Eyes Down Field

8oz gloves approved. NSAC apparently saying it's a "one time exception"

Doesn't make much of a difference, Maybe Floyd knocks Conor out a bit sooner.

Eyes Down Field

Robert Byrd as Refferee and 8oz gloves approved according to Sky Sports

http://www.skysports.com/mayweather-vs-mcgregor/news/35588/10991424/1

TheCatSpangler

The Nal wrote: »

Conors punches are far too long as it is.

He's stunned and dropped people with short sharp shots, including rights come to think of it.

Conor is strongest as a standup fighter. In MMA, long straight shots, whilst also hurting people and putting people down, help to give you the advantage if your goal is to avoid a takedown. He fights the opponent in front of him most of the time. He won't counter balance with his right hand down and shoot at that range, from that stance, extending that far, for Floyd, no need to, no risk of a takedown.

Its a crazy carry on to look at McGregor fighting in MMA, when one of his main objectives is to try to keep the fight on the feet, and make takedowns as difficult as possible for his opponents, and think he'll fight/through punches the same in a boxing ring.

People are getting daft. I half expected it from casual MMA fans, without much knowledge of boxing, but common sense is going right out the window with a lot of boxing people.

Like with Conors media day. He used it as a middling conditioning session because he didn't want to totally blow off a days training but is doing his usual orefight misdirection shenanigans. Everyone has YouTube. Should take 3 minutes searching for people to figure out that's not him trying to look at all fast, slick or with perfect boxing technique. He didn't even try to through a hard right hook or right uppercut, he tapped both out there, he wasn't trying to impress. There's footage of him throwing how he really throughs with his right. Even in fight MMA come and watch me fight footage, but people are choosing to believe that's the best he's got. We know it isn't. The cats out of the bag and sitting up on the keyboard licking its own arse and people are still falling over themselves to believe what they want.

Its gone right over the edge at this stage.

walshb

Gintonious wrote: »

Saw this over on Reddit.

And I'd say if a lot of greats fought so defensively and "negatively" most of the time they'd have similar stats..

Fook me, his D gets ridiculously overrated, or more aptly, overstated. When you spend so much time not wanting to get hit you likely won't get hit too much.

TheCatSpangler

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

8oz gloves approved. NSAC apparently saying it's a "one time exception"

Doesn't make much of a difference, Maybe Floyd knocks Conor out a bit sooner.

In terms of impact power, from ten ounce to 4 ounce gloves means about a six percent reduction. 10 to eight is probably hovering around one percent maybe basing it off that? Its nothing. Slightly smaller meaning less coverage, but again that's pretty negligible. And extra two ounces to through about isn't going to really effect handspeed or stanima with guys these size either. 8 or 10 is pure marketing that will have pretty much no relevence.

TheCatSpangler

walshb wrote: »

And I'd say if a lot of greats fought so defensively and "negatively" most of the time they'd have similar stats..

Fook me, his D gets ridiculously overrated, or more aptly, overstated. When you spend so much time not wanting to get hit you likely won't get hit too much.

Maidana tagged him with 79 power shots in the first four rounds of fight one. Canelo with 34 but Canelo had every hope of winning on points going in and wasn't pressing the point at all, more fool him.

He gets popped. Particularly, the last few years, particularly, in early rounds before he gets into his grove and maps people as well as he does in fight and his exceptional stanima and conditioning give him the edge over a lot of people.

He fights defensive, and is incredible at it, but this idea that no one lands a glove on him is out of thin air.

Sweet Science

walshb wrote: »

And I'd say if a lot of greats fought so defensively and "negatively" most of the time they'd have similar stats..

Fook me, his D gets ridiculously overrated, or more aptly, overstated. When you spend so much time not wanting to get hit you likely won't get hit too much.

If other fighters could fight like him and win easily they would . Nobody enjoys getting punched in the face . But very few can excluding Parnell Rigo and the likes

gilmour

I never thought i'd say this, but this event is making the whole Flomo's v Pactards debates seem like a debate between teams of scholars.

This however is a ****ing full on cult movement

Dempsey

I think alot of the public sparring sessions and leaked footage is deliberate style to throw off Mayweather from getting all his homework done. McGregor will have an awkward boxing style but better than we've seen so far and it should take Mayweather a small bit of time to get the measure of. So McGregor will have a small window to wobble him but I imagine that he'll gas once Mayweather hits his groove and the referee will end up stopping it on a tko.

Regardless of this result, McGregor will be going back to UFC will sharper striking and boxing skills. Cant see any featherweight or lightweight fights peaking people's interest. The only fight I see worth the stretch is for the welterweight strap, that will divide alot of opinions and will be worth significant PPV's

Frank Bullitt

walshb wrote: »

And I'd say if a lot of greats fought so defensively and "negatively" most of the time they'd have similar stats..

Fook me, his D gets ridiculously overrated, or more aptly, overstated. When you spend so much time not wanting to get hit you likely won't get hit too much.

It was his hit rate of 44% that caught my eye in fairness.

hbhook

Mayweather was on Kimmel last night. Vids on youtube. Lot's of money talk. I read the other day that the only difference between 8 and 10oz is not the cushioning/ padding. It's simply that the 10 is wider from the thumb, or inside the thumb, to the small finger/side of hand. Thus spreading the impact. Yay or nay?

HattrickNZ

hbhook wrote: »

Mayweather was on Kimmel last night. Vids on youtube. Lot's of money talk. I read the other day that the only difference between 8 and 10oz is not the cushioning/ padding. It's simply that the 10 is wider from the thumb, or inside the thumb, to the small finger/side of hand. Thus spreading the impact. Yay or nay?

saw that he seemed very defensive in alot of his answers. is he normally like that?

walshb

HattrickNZ wrote: »

saw that he seemed very defensive in alot of his answers. is he normally like that?

Floyd is a waffler. Speaks but says nothing. I have always found his interviews odd. Nothing easy, relaxed, natural or just plain normal.

walshb

I will say that he came across very well with that beautiful child, Taylor Hammond on all access ep 3..

Lukker-

hbhook wrote: »

Mayweather was on Kimmel last night. Vids on youtube. Lot's of money talk. I read the other day that the only difference between 8 and 10oz is not the cushioning/ padding. It's simply that the 10 is wider from the thumb, or inside the thumb, to the small finger/side of hand. Thus spreading the impact. Yay or nay?

Correct, not much difference on the knuckle padding, mainly means a wider glove with more protection around the thumb

Lukker-

walshb wrote: »

I will say that he came across very well with that beautiful child, Taylor Hammond on all access ep 3..

'Get a sick kind in so they forget about me beating my wife in front of my kids'