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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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Spudman_20000

bunderoon wrote: »

Anyone think that it's possible that this fight could be thrown?
The two men stand to make way more if Mayweather loses and there is a rematch clause..
It's all about money these days.

I've heard a few people mention this. Anyone who thinks Mayweather would throw a fight, or try and make it look competitive in order to get a rematch, clearly do not know how Floyd operates.

There is no way in hell he would take a loss deliberately, and the only way to make the fight look competitive would be to allow Conor to land punches, which he isn't going to do either.

pirlo80

bunderoon wrote: »

Anyone think that it's possible that this fight could be thrown?
The two men stand to make way more if Mayweather loses and there is a rematch clause..
It's all about money these days.

Absolutely no way either men would throw a fight. The money has already been made. They are both going in to win. They are both champions with the winning mentality - they would jepordize both their legacy (in Mayweathers case) and future career in Conors case. The whole world will be watching it would be next to impossible to get away with.

JJayoo

McG might come in 15/20 pounds heavier than Flyod, how will this impact the fight?

walshb

JJayoo wrote: »

McG might come in 15/20 pounds heavier than Flyod, how will this impact the fight?

Won't impact the result in nay way...

As for the fight? Very difficult to answer. Could make Conor a little slower on his feet and with his hands. I see it as next to no issue for Floyd.

marcus001

Gintonious wrote: »

Saw this on reddit...christ

This was in round 12. Those shots were probably pretty sluggish.

marcus001

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

So it turns out you can't get the additional sky box office for the big event if your to is with Eir, even though they offer the other sky sports channels in their bundles.
I had to switch from VM to Eir so that I could watch the UFC after VM dropped those channels. With VM I used to be able to watch the big mayweather fights on sky box office!! Can't get Sky in my apartment.
These tv companies and their offers sucks. Can't believe Eir customers are not even being given the option to pay whatever he price is to see this huge sporting event.

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Sweet Science

marcus001 wrote: »

This was in round 12. Those shots were probably pretty sluggish.

True . On the flipside Floyd has gone 11 rounds and is still avoiding them

Frank Bullitt

marcus001 wrote: »

This was in round 12. Those shots were probably pretty sluggish.

Well you can see them, were they sluggish or not?

marcus001

Gintonious wrote: »

Well you can see them, were they sluggish or not?

You can't really from that gif, it looks like there might have been more of a wind up for the first shot before the gif starts. Also looking at the clock it looks slightly faster than real time.

LionelNashe

bunderoon wrote: »

Anyone think that it's possible that this fight could be thrown?
The two men stand to make way more if Mayweather loses and there is a rematch clause..
It's all about money these days.

If McGregor wins, I don't see him agreeing to a rematch. He has never yet given a rematch to somebody he beat, or even defended a belt in Cage Warriors or UFC - he's always onto the next thing. Plus, I don't see that kind of shenanigans as fitting in with McGregor's law-of-attraction positive mindset stuff. I'd say he genuinely believes he's going to win.

On a related point, I think that positive thinking that verges on delusion can have very effective results (but not due to the supernatural type claims that some people make). That, combined with McGregor's unorthodox stance and movement, his left handedness, his youth, reach, precision & knockout power mean that it won't be the embarrassment that people claim.

LionelNashe

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

So it turns out you can't get the additional sky box office for the big event if your to is with Eir, even though they offer the other sky sports channels in their bundles.
I had to switch from VM to Eir so that I could watch the UFC after VM dropped those channels. With VM I used to be able to watch the big mayweather fights on sky box office!! Can't get Sky in my apartment.
These tv companies and their offers sucks. Can't believe Eir customers are not even being given the option to pay whatever he price is to see this huge sporting event.

You can buy it online from the likes of Now TV - there's a couple of small threads on Boards about it.

wonderfullife

LionelNashe wrote: »

If McGregor wins, I don't see him agreeing to a rematch. He has never yet given a rematch to somebody he beat, or even defended a belt in Cage Warriors or UFC - he's always onto the next thing. Plus, I don't see that kind of shenanigans as fitting in with McGregor's law-of-attraction positive mindset stuff. I'd say he genuinely believes he can win.

On a related point, I think that positive thinking that verges on delusion can have very effective results. That, combined with McGregor's unorthodox stance and movement, his left handedness, his youth, reach, precision & knockout power mean that it won't be the embarrassment that people claim.

Agree 100%.

There's very little chance of a rematch if Conor wins. If he loses a close decision, sure I could see a rematch but if Conor actually wins he's not going to give Floyd a chance to get the win back.

It's like the Aldo situation - if you beat a phenomenal champion, rated the Pound-for-Pound best, you want that to stick on your record forever. You risk it being labeled a "fluke" if you give them a rematch and lose.

pirlo80

walshb wrote: »

Won't impact the result in nay way...

As for the fight? Very difficult to answer. Could make Conor a little slower on his feet and with his hands. I see it as next to no issue for Floyd.

But Floyd has a small head, but reach, but but but

LionelNashe

JJayoo wrote: »

McG might come in 15/20 pounds heavier than Flyod, how will this impact the fight?

walshb wrote: »

Won't impact the result in nay way...

As for the fight? Very difficult to answer. Could make Conor a little slower on his feet and with his hands. I see it as next to no issue for Floyd.

Even if it's just 15 pounds, it's the equivalent of two weight classes. It has to be one of the things that Conor has going for him rather than against him.

Danzy

It may be time to consider Conor putting his gloves on to his feet and walking out in a hand stand.

StringerBell

LionelNashe wrote: »

Even if it's just 15 pounds, it's the equivalent of two weight classes. It has to be one of the things that Conor has going for him rather than against him.

Why? It just means he is more likely to gas quicker tbh from carrying the extra muscle weight. Could make his already not lighting hand speed slower, his reactions slower, footwork, which again isn't very good for boxing, more sluggish.

Did they not say before that was an issue for Diaz 1, too heavy. Gassed very quickly and didn't come in as heavy for the next one, gassed again but not as quickly obviously.

I don't think he should come in to this fight too big, another thing he said for the Diaz one was the mindset of not cutting, he wasn't as hungry for the fight etc he wasn't as primal. I think he is more comfortable in around 160 rather then blowing up to 170 or more for his own sake.

pirlo80

I heard they are aiming for him to come in at around 160-165

Frank Bullitt

wonderfullife wrote: »

Agree 100%.

There's very little chance of a rematch if Conor wins. If he loses a close decision, sure I could see a rematch but if Conor actually wins he's not going to give Floyd a chance to get the win back.

It's like the Aldo situation - if you beat a phenomenal champion, rated the Pound-for-Pound best, you want that to stick on your record forever. You risk it being labeled a "fluke" if you give them a rematch and lose.

I would have said the opposite my self actually. If he went for a rematch, would it not be seen that he would be out to show that it wasn't a fluke?

marcus001

Just for reference, Paulie even after looking at the video still doesn't seem to understand or remember getting hit. I think Conor actually did some damage there.

Pighead

wonderfullife wrote: »

Agree 100%.

There's very little chance of a rematch if Conor wins. If he loses a close decision, sure I could see a rematch but if Conor actually wins he's not going to give Floyd a chance to get the win back.

It's like the Aldo situation - if you beat a phenomenal champion, rated the Pound-for-Pound best, you want that to stick on your record forever. You risk it being labeled a "fluke" if you give them a rematch and lose.

It's not really like the Aldo situation given a potential rematch with Mayweather would bank McGregor another €100+ million. I'd guess that McGregor and Aldo 2 would have happened already had there been that much money on the line.

Conor seems to be obsessed with climbing the Forbes list these days. I reckon he'd be jumping all over a rematch and another huge payday should the opportunity present itself.

walshb

LionelNashe wrote: »

Even if it's just 15 pounds, it's the equivalent of two weight classes. It has to be one of the things that Conor has going for him rather than against him.

But just saying that without saying how 15 lbs somehow helps him?

What is 15 lbs to a non boxer (and to Floyd) and how can he use it to his advantage?

Could it be a disadvantage? Could it make his slightly less sharp and explosive?

Will it affect his rhythm and cardio?

If I were Conor's coach I would say not to go above 162 or so....that's a healthy 8 lbs or so gain from weigh in....Do it smart.

Weighs 170 +.....could be a making his very slim chances even slimmer, and could be making his night harder.

Like the whole reach thing being bandied about. Just saying it and using the word "advanatge." Is it an advantage? How so.....? It's a longer reach, but that doesn't mean it is automatically an advantage?

Will Conor's longer arm length and rangy feel off them allow Floyd to do things that bit easier? Remember, there is an opponent in there.

marcus001

wonderfullife wrote: »

Agree 100%.

There's very little chance of a rematch if Conor wins. If he loses a close decision, sure I could see a rematch but if Conor actually wins he's not going to give Floyd a chance to get the win back.

It's like the Aldo situation - if you beat a phenomenal champion, rated the Pound-for-Pound best, you want that to stick on your record forever. You risk it being labeled a "fluke" if you give them a rematch and lose.

Conor would bite your hand off for a rematch no matter what. The rematch would be bigger than the first one if he won. He could clear 200 million for the second one.

StringerBell

pirlo80 wrote: »

I heard they are aiming for him to come in at around 160-165

Would be about right I think.

Checkmate19

Just watched the sparring with Paulie. He's doing alot of slapping. Technique is not great. If he tries that with floyd he's going to get caught with an ko uppercut.

Interesting Floyd is saying he wants a ko. Hard to know if this is mind games. If Floyd doesn't ko Conor he will get alot of stick. A points win will seem to an extent like a loss. I think Floyd will size Conor up and finish him inside five rounds. Only hope for Conor is they go for 8oz gloves and he comes out swinging and gets lucky.

walshb

Floyd deserves a sh1t load of stick if he is unable (assuming he's trying with some level of commitment) to get Conor out of there by the mid rds at least.

We'll just have to wait and see how he fights. Many permutations to consider....

GerryDerpy

walshb wrote: »

Floyd deserves a sh1t load of stick if he is unable (assuming he's trying with some level of commitment) to get Conor out of there by the mid rds at least.

We'll just have to wait and see how he fights. Many permutations to consider....

Against a novice?? A no hoper?? A top amateur would finish McGregor by the midway point. Floyd should be finishing the fight inside 1 minute.

Or do you really believe McGregor is not THAT bad?

walshb

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Against a novice?? A no hoper?? A top amateur would finish McGregor by the midway point. Floyd should be finishing the fight inside 1 minute.

Or do you really believe McGregor is not THAT bad?

I'm not with you.....

McGregor that bad? It's not a case of him being that bad....It's a case of him being not near good enough.

You also need to realise that there are styles in boxing. Different fighters fight different ways.

Just because boxer A may get someone out of there in a rd, doesn't mean boxer C and D will, and it doesn't mean boxer A beats C and D....

Floyd was never a killer type fighter.

Plenty boxers out there get Conor out within a rds. And that same plenty get beaten by Mayweather....

So this claim that Floyd should be finishing the fight within a minute because some lesser boxers would makes no real sense. It's is not necessarily logically true.

And there are plenty examples to show this through the years...

Floyd for me if he performs and commits should not need more than 5- 6 rds.

Canelo, for exmple should not need more than 1 rd.

Pacman as well for 1 rd

GGG as well for 1 rd....

GerryDerpy

walshb wrote: »

I'm not with you.....

McGregor that bad? It's not a case of him being that bad....It's a case of him being not near good enough.

You also need to realise that there are styles in boxing. Different fighters fight different ways.

Just because boxer A may get someone out of there in a rd, doesn't mean boxer C and D will, and it doesn't mean boxer A beats C and D....

Floyd was never a killer type fighter.

Plenty boxers out there get Conor out within a rds. And that same plenty get beaten by Mayweather....

So this claim that Floyd should be finishing the fight within a minute because some lesser boxers would makes no real sense. It's is not necessarily logically true.

And there are plenty examples to show this through the years...

Floyd for me if he performs and commits should not need more than 5- 6 rds.

Canelo, for exmple should not need more than 1 rd.

Pacman as well for 1 rd

GGG as well for 1 rd....

Oh I know man, I don't think Floyd will even win sure :-) just highlighting that McGregor is not such a novice that even you are giving him 6 rounds. Coz I sure as hell wouldn't last 10 seconds against Floyd! I am the novice you wish McGregor is!

walshb

GerryDerpy wrote: »

A top amateur would finish McGregor by the midway point.

Depends on the fighting style of the amateur.....

Some will get him out within a rd, some won't. Some may take several rds.

The main point is that they would be clearly superior.

walshb

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Oh I know man, I don't think Floyd will even win sure :-) just highlighting that McGregor is not such a novice that even you are giving him 6 rounds. Coz I sure as hell wouldn't last 10 seconds against Floyd! I am the novice you wish McGregor is!

Let's say we stuck the Floyd from the Gatti fight in the ring. That same intensity, speed, movement, accuracy....

Conor lasts at best 3 rds....

Floyd is far from that intensity level today. Older, bit slower and more methodical and relaxed and content....

It stands to reason that Conor likely lasts a bit longer, barring a one punch type KO from Floyd. Of course, that is always possible from bell 1 to bell 12.