pirlo80 wrote: » There is no boxing coach in the camp - which is my point. Roddy is the striking coach I dont think he has a boxing background as far as I am aware. He is an MMA striking coach - I may be wrong on that.
Gamebred wrote: » You're right as far as I know not one person in that camp bar Conor has had as much as an amatuer boxing bout, this will be combat sports biggest upset for me I think.
pirlo80 wrote: » Really you think McGregor will win ? What are you basing that on ?
scudzilla wrote: » Let's not also forget that Conor can take a punch too, so unless Floyd has developed some sensational KO power since his last fight then i doubt he's knocking him out early on
pirlo80 wrote: » walshb wrote: » He and Conor and the rest of team McGregor are being ALL painted as either genuinely confident and sure of their man's victory, or delusional, or deliberately bull****ting. I am going with the third option. No way they all genuinely believe that Conor wins. And no way ALL are ridiculously delusional. The smart and logical money is that they know he has next to no chance to beat Floyd at boxing, but sure they'll bullsh1t that he does. They definitely 100% believe he will knock him out - When you hear them talk about Conor its cult of personality/hysteria language they use (ref JK and the 8 oz gloves comment). I can partly understand why, Conors confidence and self belief is infectious and he has proved people wrong so often before, the difference here is he is fighting one of the best boxers of the last 30 years - JK, Roddy and the rest of them fail to see the difference, either because they dont want to, or refuse to. They literally think Floyd will get KO'd because he has a small head. The whole camp is absolutely 100% deluded - Just look at the footage of the open workout and the **** about "easy work" and "beautiful" when he was hitting the bags like a novice. I never want to see a fellow Irish man beaten but Kavanagh and Roddy will be largely responsible if he is badly beaten/stopped early doors - I think it will go 5 or 6 before the ref has seen enough and calls a halt
walshb wrote: » He and Conor and the rest of team McGregor are being ALL painted as either genuinely confident and sure of their man's victory, or delusional, or deliberately bull****ting. I am going with the third option. No way they all genuinely believe that Conor wins. And no way ALL are ridiculously delusional. The smart and logical money is that they know he has next to no chance to beat Floyd at boxing, but sure they'll bullsh1t that he does.
StringerBell wrote: » The Tyson statement of everybody has a plan till they get punched in the face can be flipped and applied to McGregor too, he will not have been hit by anybody more accurately or powerfully then he will v Mayweather.
StringerBell wrote: » McGregor does not have a good defence........
ThinkProgress wrote: » Also, did that old fox Floyd, just score some points in the psychological mind games, with his racism accusations...??? Look how furious it seems to have made Conor in the above clip! If this was the other way around, you just know all the McGregor fanboys would be claiming that Conor is in his head... But you barely hear a peep out of them around this... Floyd knows damn well he's not a racist... He's been planning to pull the race card since this fight was first announced. Dirty tactics... But it appears to have had the desired effect - angering and frustrating Conor!! I'm a little surprised, just how easily Floyd got under his skin there... Floyd will be grinning from ear to ear, when he watches that clip!!
Fall_Guy wrote: » You think that is an example of 'easily' getting under someones skin?? Resorting to accusing mcgregor of being a racist, claiming he is fighting for black people all over the world, pooring fuel on fire of racial tension across america currently?? I would be surprised if that didnt manage to rattle someone even a little bit..... ....also, conor has been rattled by far less sinister accusations In the past and reacted angrily (steroid use accusations by nate diaz), so should be absolutely no surprise to see him show distaste at mayweathers use of that tactic.
ThinkProgress wrote: » So, basically you are agreeing with my point... It's a downright dirty and despicable tactic from Floyd... But never the less, it has worked... Because Conor is very clearly pi$$ed and hugely frustrated, that people might view him as a racist! I agree it should bring that reaction out of anyone... Anyone who is not a racist, and cares if they are labelled one! But this is very clearly mind games from Floyd... And he has totally hit his mark on Conor with this one! It's quite surprising to see it happen, as it's normally Conor getting under his opponent's skin!
scudzilla wrote: » I think he'll win, and within 2 rounds too, here's my reasoning, pick it apart as you like, but don't all you boxing 'experts' come back with lame excuses when it happens Floyd has never faced someone like Conor before, he has no idea how he's going to set up for the fight, he's totally unorthodox so can't really spar against someone similar as doesn't know what he's going to face. As someone else on the mma thread said, the first round is probably going to be one of the most dangerous of Floyds career. Some are saying Conor won't land a punch, complete and utter bollox, i've been watching him fight for years, his punches are so accurate and powerful, he doesn't waste them, if one connects, which it more than likely will, the Floyd will be in BIG trouble Nearly all of Conor's opponents in MMA have gone in with a game plan, that goes out of the window the second they get hit, their game plan for the rest of the fight is avoiding that huge KO punch....most fail Let's not also forget that Conor can take a punch too, so unless Floyd has developed some sensational KO power since his last fight then i doubt he's knocking him out early on I'm going for Conor by KO within 2 rounds and am very confident
Sweet Science wrote: » I see mods on the MMA forum have warned a few boxing people over their behaviour yet we have to deal with this utter nonsense on a daily basis
Fall_Guy wrote: » showing his willingness to stoop to any level to sell more ppvs.
PowerToWait wrote: » McGregor does it he's a marketing genius, but another fighter does it he's 'stooping'.
ThinkProgress wrote: » Looks like Conor is a huge boxing fan... just like I told you guys!!
TheAnalyst_ wrote: » I had a look on betfair. I cannot believe the odds. I stuck 10K down on Mayweather to win which should pay for a nice week in Ibiza and some.
Fall_Guy wrote: » I dont particularly like a large degree of mcgregors 'promotional' tactics, and he has without doubt made grossly inappropriate comments at times.....but that's not what was being discussed right now. That said, I do think there is a difference between mcgregor making ignorant off the cuff remarks and mayweather making a calculated decision to paint mcgregor as a racist when I dont believe he truly thinks this is the case. Its crossing into a dangerous domain and is hugely irresponsible, which is why I think ellerbe himself has downplayed the racism talk.
PowerToWait wrote: » Fair enough points, but he has definitely made what could most sympathetically be described as xenophobic remarks in the past. And lets face it, he should have chosen his words with a whole lot more wisdom when facing a black opponent. It seems very careless from such a supposed canny operator, when every detail is calculated, that he would not have been aware of the implications of using 'monkeys'. I didn't think the 'dance for me boy' thing was that clever either, though may have genuinely been just dumb and ignorant.
akelly02 wrote: » mcgregor into 10/3 with PP this is borderline ridiculous.
scudzilla wrote: » the first round is probably going to be one of the most dangerous of Floyds career.
pirlo80 wrote: » Do you think Mayweather doesnt know Conor is going to come out firing, do you think he wont have defense on his mind first and foremost - basically what he needs to do is avoid a big shot for 9 minutes then he's home free - Do you really think Canelo, Maidana, Cotto et el are not dangerous and didnt try the same thing ? Mayweather is a defensive genius. Conor doesnt have the tools to unlock that, not in the first or any other round. It doesnt matter how he throws them or where he throws them from, what angles he uses - Mayweather has had people throw punches at him his whole life and only been rocked twice in a career thats spanned decades.
gilmour wrote: » The more i think about this fight and the build up to it, the more i see this ending ugly. JK and Owen Roddy are not Boxing cornermen, they also are in awe of Conor because he literally changed their lives. My fear is they won't be able to react like Buddy McGirt did in the Gatti fight and say enoughs enough, despite Gatti wanting to continue. One round too many is not to be taking lightly in any combat sport and especially Boxing, and i really hope that despite the positive visualisation and refusing to think of defeat mentality that they seem to have in the camp has also allowed them to both think about a "what if" situation whereby Conor is coming back to the corner like Gatti did, and despite his pride wanting him to go on that they have the common sense and balls to say "Conor thats enough".
