Stonedpilot wrote: » My point is painfully obvious. If you want to keep your privacy you can. No need for media stories and the following circus. Papz at treatment facilities?!?!??!?!! You believe this?!?!!? This is not Los Angeles. But if you want to live in Lala land and think Paparazzi is camping outside Cuan Mhuire in the back arse of Athy in a tent or Aiseiri in the back arse of Tiperarry be my guest. I can assure you they arent though.
Deleted User wrote: » I think the OP has a point that might have been lost. I certainly appreciate that a celebrity is as likely to suffer mental health issues as much as a celebrity is likely to, say, break a leg. Money doesn't immunise anyone from health issues. Again, it's the whole way the matter is packaged now that I don't like, it's almost standardised, they have issues, they talk about it to some newspaper or chat show host, they end on some right on message of the "it's okay to not be okay" variety so it's simple enough for the 20 somethings to understand. There is no real analysis of the issue, it's all reduced to the point where it's useless information. Even back in the 80s and 90s people like Dr. Anthony Clare had media profiles, a man extremely qualified to address the issue. These days? It's Bressie and co. That's not an advance, that's a dumbing down.
anna080 wrote: » Didn't you base your whole post on Ant from Ant and Dec? Somehow I doubt he's getting treated in the back arse of Tipp.
pilly wrote: » Believe me I've plenty of experience in addiction, both with money and without. Harder with money.
Stonedpilot wrote: » No mentioned few celebs. Lets say for arguments sake paps did have photos of him. So what?. If he has learned ANYTHING at all in recovery its that peoples opinions dont matter at all. His sobreity/being clean is more important than peoples opinions surely.Otherwise hes learned NOTHING. If he was to get hung up with tabloid media hed be popping pills everytime some yahoo wrote of him online sure he'd be dead within a week. I'd like to think his sobriety isn't that incredibly fragile and if it is that pathetic then its not worth having.
anna080 wrote: » You know nothing about his sobriety. And you've inferred quite ignorantly about him and other people's struggles purely on the basis of them being celebrities. How people deal with their issues is entirely up to them.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I am sick of people like the OP who whinge about things similar to this. Your not forced to read or listen to it if you don't like it!
Stonedpilot wrote: » Ditto this thread!. Who forced you to click on it? Pot is beside my black kettle, strange.
freshpopcorn wrote: » I am giving you advice on an issue that you felt the need to create a thread about. People who start sill threads annoy me a little but not enough to create a thread moaning about them.
B.A._Baracus wrote: » Depends on who we are talking about tho. One celebrity might be totally genuine. Coming out and talking about their genuine depression or addiction. May even wish to help others by saying it can happen to anyone. While another celebrity would say mass to just get their name out there and try to still keep relevant. Problem is, it's hard to know who is genuine and who is playing the game.
Stonedpilot wrote: » Your giving me advice now on what exactly?. How gracious of you. Can I ask does your Ego have it's own passport?.
anna080 wrote: » Why are you so narky and rude? Are you usually this abrasive when you engage with people? I think you need to look inwards and ask yourself why such an insignificant thing winds you up so much. You've asked why do celebs go public, people have given examples why they might, but you've refuted every point with some insolent rant. Next time you find yourself getting so hot under the collar about a celebrity you've never met, just close the newspaper.
Stonedpilot wrote: » The other poster "offered advice" per se. Not his or her place to do so That is egotistical and I made light of that. You really Gotta get a sense of humour pal (buy one on ebay maybe?)and stop being such a bloody snowflake!.
Stonedpilot wrote: » Have you ever heard of psychological projection?. I very strongly recommend looking it up. I Suppose you think it's polite to call total strangers rude and abrasive eh!. Insolent rant haha. I agree with loads of the people who have posted!. The other poster "offered advice" per se. Not his or her place to do so That is egotistical and I made light of that. You really Gotta get a sense of humour pal (buy one on ebay maybe?)and stop being such a bloody snowflake!.
anna080 wrote: » The irony of you calling me a snowflake when you're here having a meltdown over Ant from Ant and Dec entering rehab :pac: Bonne Nuit.
Deleted User wrote: » I think the message is wrong. Suddenly social media has taken up this whole "it's good to talk" mantra and I see people with no expertise or qualifications setting up Facebook pages and blogs dispensing advice on life and mental health issues that consist of glib memes. People like Dave Avocado Wolfe telling people one day not to judge others, and the next telling them to surround themselves with positive people...a phrase that seems to have passed into discourse on the issue. You have a mental health issue? Talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist. Not a chat show host. And don't solicit "you ok hun" type responses on social media.
Optimalprimerib wrote: » That's what makes it difficult, they have everything that people would give a limb to have a life like theirs, yet they still get hit by it. The ops rant is cruel, ignorant and incorrect. It is treating the celebs like they are superhuman, yet they are not. The world thinks that they shouldn't suffer, yet they do. Depression, anxiety and addiction are human flaws and that is what they are, human. They should not be forced to hide behind their public personas. They have every right to fight their illness what ever way they can to defeat it.
myshirt wrote: » Op, it's all well and good for you to make comments like that, but just you wait until the day you realise you are out of Merlot and have to use Shiraz for the Beef Bourgeuoin. You have not felt the real pain of this life. Come back to the thread then.
Stonedpilot wrote: » Hence why I quoted Woody Allen 'money can't buy happiness but can make sure you are miserable in comfort'. But as I said if they truly wanted to help folk pick up some addict from the street and speak to them, take them to meeting, give them few quid to tide them over. Of course that is ACTUALLY helping someone and god forbid they do that. Why run to the media?. As I said met many many many people with depression and addictions in their life and yet to meet one who's said a celebs story in the media has helped them. Not one.
Stonedpilot wrote: » Sorry what the hell are you on about?.
JKerova1 wrote: » There's no doubt in my mind that some celebrities use to reveal their 'depression' or 'drink problem' as a means of increasing their profile, usually in advance of a new book release, a new tv show or a tour announement. For example, that annoying camp DJ flaunting his GP prescribed anti-depressants on Brendan O'Connors talk show a few months back.
Stonedpilot wrote: » So with the recent news that Ant from Any and Dec who could sink a ship with the dosh he has if it was in cash is now whinging about his addictions. Same goes for Alison Canavan moaning on the Independent recently (Irish d list model) who speaks of her drink problems (her alcoholic ego is still so active and so in denial it won't allow her to say she is simply a alcoholic). Drink problem, unhealthy relationship with drink. All this twaddle to defend her ego. Whether it's drink, drugs or their depression I find it tiring and certainly can't relate to a millionaire's depression. I've had my battles with it in the past (suicidal etc) but very few actually get down to the real nitty gritty of depression I feel. How many celebs will say they can't get out of bed in the morning covered in pizz and physically can't remove themselves from bed due to depression?. Can't cook can't or won't feed themselves as they hate themselves so much?. Become a recluse and don't leave the house for days on end?. No it's look at me aren't I great doing a trek or a and cycle that and I climbed yada whilst depressed It's bizarre, when I'm proper depressed getting dressed is enough of a chore!. It seems almost like they put a sheen on it. Also hearing of them getting support and loads of letters of encouragement? Come on people give them to folk who need it!. Rarely see a very dishevelled scruffy celeb speaking of depression yet many big celebs can't wait to talk if it on self indulgent shows like Ellen. Cara Delevingne, Owen Wilson, Justin Biebe, JK Rowling etc etc talk of it but never see them look rough when doing so. Point is when properly depressed you couldn't give a monkey's what you look like. Seen it many a time at support group for depressed people folk who just rolled out of bed or being taking drugs all day. Anyway it gets tiring, I won't go into my life story as I know this forum is a hotbed of narcissism and judgement but I had addictions and gave them up (no rehab) when I hadn't a cent to my name. Hard tiring work!. But the struggle helps keeps me clean and sober which is great. Doubt if I had millions and people kissing my ass I'd have kept it, as addicts/alcoholics LOVE LOVE LOVE having their egos reinforced. Talking about it in the media is a way to reinforce the ego I mean a truly humble person wouldn't brag about it on the media. Some might say it helps others but I doubt the heroin addict on the street gets solace from Ant getting clean for like a month. If he was concerned with helping folk do the chair at a NA meeting, donate to rehab centres, drive someone on the Street on smack to their first meeting etc. Nope none of that gives his face in the media. All they do is reinforce their egos that often made them an addict in the first place!. Oh the irony. I think these people should realize how good they have it. I know money can't buy happiness but it can make you miserable in comfort and sometimes I wish they would keep their 'poor me's to themselves from their 12 bedroom mansions looking out onto their BMW's/Bentleys/ and Lamborghini's. Am I saying my depression is more relevant because I'm poor and not rich and world renowned and revered like them?. Basically yes. These people are OBSESSIVE with feeling sorry themselves and it does get tiring. If the money is such a burden give it away?. Hmmm never see that. Also depression can make you eccentric and odd never see these folk mad as a brush in public. Seems like it's 'trendy' to speak of depression/addictions with celebs #depression. and a they get 1,000,000 likes and fans kissing their ass and their new movie skyrockets in sales. But met many many people who have had addictions and depression and never once did they say they got encouragement from a celebrity's poor me story in the press.
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