The Nal wrote: » I'm a fan of both guys, for different reasons but they're both great in their own sports. No issue with mad egos in the fight game. I loved Naseem, loved Eubank. Conor and his posse have talked him/themselves into this. They know he has no chance apart from what you mentioned, something a bit different and hope Floyd doesn't figure it out. Like Ali hitting Foreman with right hand leads. The one thing here though is that McGregor isn't used to getting hit frequently. No BJJ, no tie ups against the cage, no straight leg kicks to keep him away. Volume like hes never seen before. Floyd throws 35+ shots per round. Half of them power punches. This will be McGregors first ever boxing fight with no headgear. Its preposterous stuff. Hes going to get badly hurt and it will be at best an embarrassing stoppage.
Burial. wrote: » But but but but the long reach :rolleyes:
wonderfullife wrote: » It'll be one of the great joys of 2017 to see the excuses you make when Conor beats Floyd - for both boxing aka "the sweet science" and for Floyd. It'll be enjoyable watching you twist yourself into a pretzel to avoid giving credit to Conor or to admit you hadn't a clue what sort of animal you were dealing with. It will bring me tremendous joy. On the flip side if Floyd lands a lucky punch, I will of course be pretty sad at the well-deserved abuse coming my way
wonderfullife wrote: » source?
Eyes Down Field wrote: » McGregor may be a Bull but Mayweather is a Matador.
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Tigger wrote: » Ducking below the opponents waist line is aginst the rules tho, Mayweathers head was at knee level there I know it's not enforced much but he's still flaunting the rules He got warned against Hatton but then Hatton was docked a point for catching the back of his head
Danzy wrote: » If Floyd isn't down in 4 rounds then he isn't down at all. The element of unorthodox surprise will be gone. I think we'll see some interesting clenches from McGregor, I wouldn't be surprised if he semi throws him down at the start, he'll get a slap but it'll might just rattle Floyd. If I had a bet on it my heart would say Conor but my Social fund would say Floyd.
Tigger wrote: » Yeah but that point dosent agree with our group think so we will ignore it .
hbhook wrote: » What do want us to do, write to the ref or something? He uses his elbows a lot too and rarely gets called on it. That might be something McGregor could try..''I SAID SUBTLY CONNOR!!''
walshb wrote: » He and Conor and the rest of team McGregor are being ALL painted as either genuinely confident and sure of their man's victory, or delusional, or deliberately bull****ting. I am going with the third option. No way they all genuinely believe that Conor wins. And no way ALL are ridiculously delusional. The smart and logical money is that they know he has next to no chance to beat Floyd at boxing, but sure they'll bullsh1t that he does.
pirlo80 wrote: » I never want to see a fellow Irish man beaten but Kavanagh and Roddy will be largely responsible if he is badly beaten/stopped early doors - I think it will go 5 or 6 before the ref has seen enough and calls a halt
Gamebred wrote: » Im far from a JK guy but this **** is hilarious, JK and Roddy will be responsible if the best boxer ever beats a 0-0 novice at pro boxing, seen it all now.
Gamebred wrote: » ''Kavanagh and Roddy will be largely responsible if he is badly beaten/stopped early doors'' Exact quote, how in the name of jaysus are they responsible if its an ass whooping, its odds on with every bookie in the world he gets stopped.
pirlo80 wrote: » I said they will be responsible if he is badly beaten - the reason being is they dont understand boxing, they have never even cornered a fight, they obviously dont see his basic mistakes or know how to correct them such as tucking your elbows to block body shots and not leaving your chin in the air (The man is wide open for counters against the best counter puncher in the world) and dont get me started on the footwork. All of these basic things would go a long way to protecting conor from the damage he is wide open to - Kavanagh has no fkng clue about any of this yet he is predicting a KO (in the 1st no less if they wear 8s) How is a head coach not responsible if he doesnt have these things addressed and his fighter gets badly hurt/embarrassed ??
Gamebred wrote: » They cannot out box him, its just not possible so even if Freddie Roach was in the corner roaring stuff it wont make a blind bit of difference.
pirlo80 wrote: » I am not talking about outboxing him, I am talking about having proper knowledge of the sport he is entering into - of which John Kavanagh has none - absolutely zero - He cannot see the mistakes anybody with any knowledge of boxing can see - and as a result cannot correct them - Their ignorance and delusion is the problem. Not that Floyd is the better boxer.
Gamebred wrote: » Its not a video game, you cant hit a few buttons and make Conor turn into a boxing expert in the space of one training camp then outbox Floyd come fight night, the best around couldnt land a glove on him with their expert knowledge so what should he swap Kavanagh for some top coach? Their ignorance and delusion has got them this far, sure it looks a bridge too far but best off failing with his team than drafting in someone for a few weeks that has no clue of McGregor to explain boxing fundamentals when in fact hes not going to try fight him like every other boxer has (well thats the general consensus)
pirlo80 wrote: » I am talking about basic defense against a counter puncher. Basic defense of the body when holding your guard. Basic basic basic stuff that because Conor hasnt been corrected on and will continue to do - and be made pay for. HOW can you not say that someone - anyone with decent knowledge of boxing could not be beneficial to that camp ? Im not talking about trying to outbox Floyd or start from scratch and I believe that the only advantage Conor has is his unorthadox movement and style BUT if you walk into a boxing match with your arms out like chicken wings and your chin in the air you're going to get hurt - possibly badly. And if that happens early doors or Conor does get badly KO'd or embarrassed, the yes men in his camp have to take some responsibility for that. Can you honestly not understand my point ?
Gamebred wrote: » How do you know he doesnt know these basic things your on about? he has never boxed so your guessing and speaking hypothetically on what advice he might need, they have a game plan so let them try execute it, I fully understand your point but its too late in the day to throw some stranger in to start correcting him on boxing techniques, they have been successful in mma and are trying to cross over into boxing with the same approach.
Mellor wrote: » JK is a jiu jitsu coach, who is head coach of SBG. He doesn't stop being head coach whenever an SBG fighter competed outside of BJJ/MMA. What evidence have people seen that he is trying to coach Conor in boxing? Is that not just speculation and guesswork from people? He may well be, and he may well be said something to that effect in an interview. But the above is a genuine question, as I haven't seen it.
