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Ryanair call for curb on pre-flight drinking

keeponhurling

Seems not unreasonable.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/rise-in-passenger-arrests-prompts-ryanair-call-for-curb-on-pre-flight-drinking-802002.html
"It's completely unfair that airports can profit from the unlimited sale of alcohol to passengers and leave the airlines to deal with the safety consequences," said Kenny Jacobs, chief marketing officer at Ryanair.

The airport bars make the profits, where the airlines and air hostesses deal with the hassle of drunk passengers.

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ED E

Ryanair and LCCs are probably the worst impacted by Danno and the lads having 12 pints before they head to Santa Ponsa.

Being stuck in a tube with 180 other feckers is rough enough as it is without them being hammered, I'd be all in favour of a complete booze ban for short haul.

TheDoc

seamus wrote: »

Before you do anything, you should assert whether this is an actual problem.

Ryanair love being in the news.

What percentage of Ryanair flights have had security incidents on them due to passengers being intoxicated before take off?

Identify whether a problem exists before we start proposing solutions to it.

People getting gee-eyed pre flight is not something I've seen much, if any, of. Most people turn up 30-60 minutes before a flight, which doesn't leave a lot of time for getting hammered.

I don't travel as much anymore but there was a time I was travelling regularly for work and they were hardly party destinations, but it was just so common to see especially in first class.

It wasn't so much a group of lads acting the bollox, sure, that happens on certain flights and has happened for as long as I've been on planes, but I think more seedy and disturbing and unacceptable is the behaviour outlined in the original programme.

Business men getting juiced before a flight and getting lose with their hands and behaviour to female airline staff. Say it all the time and happy that I didn't sit by idly letting it pass. There is a level of entitlement and boldness in some people that knows no bounds or common etiquette and behaviour.

A frequent flight I would do was to Brussels and I'd be on a relatively dead and empty flight out, but a pretty busy flight back where a lot of passengers, who would be flying as part representation of various Government departments, were acting in wholly inappropriate fashion and I always saw it as a disgrace considering it wasn't difficult identifying these people. Maybe I was being a sap at the time but I was young and flying to meet clients and conducted myself as representing my company at every stage, obviously some people just don't have those sort of standards of ethics.

I definitly would put it down to just "lads on tour" stereotypes. Sure that happens and it can be a pain, but to be honest sometimes very enjoyable and good craic and can be in good spirits.

It's the seedy crass behaviour towards airline staff when under the influence that always annoys me.

Cordell

Maybe those are left behind by the pilots

I've seen lads passing a bottle of water between them and getting increasingly happier. How do you fight this?

Grayson

I read an article this morning where cabin crew from another airline say they quite often find empty litre bottles of vodka on the plane during cleaning.

seamus

VinLieger wrote: »

Just breathalyse people before they get on board, if they dont pass a reasonable level then tough you aint flying.
Its called personal responsibility, no need to ruin the fun for everyone else cus a couple of morons are incapable of not drinking too much

Before you do anything, you should assert whether this is an actual problem.

Ryanair love being in the news.

What percentage of Ryanair flights have had security incidents on them due to passengers being intoxicated before take off?

Identify whether a problem exists before we start proposing solutions to it.

People getting gee-eyed pre flight is not something I've seen much, if any, of. Most people turn up 30-60 minutes before a flight, which doesn't leave a lot of time for getting hammered.

Ubbquittious

Flying has gone to the dogs.

Drive onto the ferry, sit into the bar, have a few pints, get chatting to some crazy lady with a birds nest in her hair, sleep off the drink & drive off. Much better craic. No big brother, no endless rules, no cattle crush for humans, no queuing, nobody looking through your stuff, no nudie scanners, no wet behind the ears security staff accusing you of being a terrorist because he wants to make a name for himself.

selwyn froggitt

This will never take off!

Pwindedd

VinLieger wrote: »

Just breathalyse people before they get on board, if they dont pass a reasonable level then tough you aint flying.
Its called personal responsibility, no need to ruin the fun for everyone else cus a couple of morons are incapable of not drinking too much

Where do you set the level though. If I drank 5 pints I'd be ghee-eyed and staggering but others you'd barely even notice. Shame to punish everyone for the misdeeds of a few. How about crates at the boarding gate? yes of course you can travel sir/madam but if you want to act like an animal you'll have to travel with them:D

TheDoc

If I'm honest I've never fully understood that sort of behaviour, getting pissed before a flight. I've been on stags, weekends away, trips with lads for a week, loads of differing types of scenarios that involved a plane. And I've just never subscribed to "party starts before the flight".

Like there is just an issue there if you can't wait until after your flight to get the drinks in. Have I had a drink before a flight? Sure I have, loads of times. but I've never felt the need or seen the point of getting pissed before my flight.

It's ridiculous carry on to be fair and considering the increased security and just generally tension that goes on in airports know, I think you're just being a twat if your getting sauced before a flight.

andekwarhola

VinLieger wrote: »

Just breathalyse people before they get on board, if they dont pass a reasonable level then tough you aint flying.
Its called personal responsibility, no need to ruin the fun for everyone else cus a couple of morons are incapable of not drinking too much

Then loads of people will just stop flying with them and other operators will benefit.

Ironic really, given RA's incessant mantra of giving Joe Punter what they want.

VinLieger

Just breathalyse people before they get on board, if they dont pass a reasonable level then tough you aint flying.
Its called personal responsibility, no need to ruin the fun for everyone else cus a couple of morons are incapable of not drinking too much

redcup342

Can of Worms

https://www.her.ie/life/dublin-airport-has-responded-to-the-controversy-about-boarding-cards-and-vat-249728

The only information that is tracked is the item purchased, the airline, and the destination in question. We do not record any personal information in relation to passengers.

It is policy in our stores to ask that passengers present their boarding car when making a purchase, however if any passenger buying a non duty free product and does not wish to provide this information, we will still make the sale.

So if they want to start tracking People personal purchases on Duty Paid Items, that's a Data Protection issue.

And do they start checking ID now as well to make sure its the correct one ? What happens when you buy a round of drinks ? You all have to go up and show your ID + boarding pass for each individual drink ?

I could see it now, 12 year old denied boarding due to consumption of 25 pints of Guinness.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Boooo to this. Getting locked before a flight is mad craic altogether.

andekwarhola

keeponhurling wrote: »

The airport bars make the profits

Presumably Ryanair sell alcohol on their flights at a massive loss?

Winterlong

Keep the punters thirsty until they are onboard and then flog them sachets of vodka and wine from plastic bottles. Kerching.