wonderfullife wrote: » To describe throwing 1,500 punches in 36 minutes on heavy bags as a "shocking workout" sums up the negativity towards Conor. On a purely physical level, anyone I've spoken to online who has ever boxed has said that is a phenomenally difficult and extremely impressive workout. Ever heard of Conor McGregor Fast? His conditioning program? What's the best way to advertise a conditioning program... call me crazy but showing you're in unbelievable condition would be a good starting point. If he wanted to show off hand-speed, footwork, timing, reflexes he would have hit pads or done touch-butt with Ido. What he wanted to show the world (and Floyd) is if this goes the full 12 rounds he's going to be in there pitching to the bitter end.
FWIW someone is claiming on twitter they counted it and Conor threw 1,100 punches in the workout. No idea if that's true.
Gintonious wrote: » The poster arguing the opposite put this up. Watch it in large screen and you can see it nice and clear, that when Paulie goes down, Cortez walks over with his right hand up, and then brings in his left under it to signal no knockdown.
Gintonious wrote: » Look at his hands just before it cuts, he is crossing his hands to wave a no knockdown. You can see it clear as day.
Gintonious wrote: » Watch the video again and you see his hand moving towards the other just before it is cut.
.ak wrote: » Honestly can't tell what he's doing from that angle. Right arm comes up first, then the left, but can't see any crossing. All moot anyway, it was a knock down. Refs aren't infaliable.
ardinn wrote: » whats the name of this vid on utube. On my phone need to show it to a boxy prick!
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Why would he call them back in if it was a knockdown? Do you even understand the rules of boxing? Knockdown = standing fighter goes to the furthest corner from the downed fighter and the downed fighter is given a standing 8. The only time he'd call them back in is if... dun dun dun... it's not a knockdown...
Outlaw Pete wrote: » There is no count in sparring. Paulie has spoken about that on his podcast.
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Will you quit waffling? Seriously. I wouldn't mind but you're changing your story as you go as first you said Joe had crossed his hands and now you're saying he was about to...... make up your mind. Here's proof of that: But now that I have shown that Joe's wrists are not even close in that last frame you have changed your story to: Look, you've been caught out saying something was in the clip that wasn't. Admit you were wrong and move on. Joe's wrists are nowhere near one another in that LAST frame....... ....more than likely he was just getting ready to call them back in to fight.
Gintonious wrote: » So we have had thishttps://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/896165673348374531 And for the record, I hope to get no one watched his workout and counted the punches...
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » I'm sorry, isn't Joe Cortez, the HoF referee, in full uniform, there to enforce the rules as if it was a real fight? Or is that only the story when it suits the narrative?
Outlaw Pete wrote: » Use your brains. They would hardly call it a 12-round spar if there was a possibility of one fighter being counted out within the first and then everyone goes home :rolleyes:
wonderfullife wrote: » I counted Rounds 11 and 12 Round 11 - 307 Round 12 - 292 I'm confident that's accurate to within 5. I don't really have the energy to count the rest of the rounds but I've no reason to believe the total comes to less than 1,500. It could be closer to 2,000.
Gintonious wrote: » Splitting hairs with what I have typed......
You can see his hands, palms down moving towards each other at the end of the video. This in boxing is to signal a "no knockdown" and Cortex was hired to replicate a fight fully. The video gets cut just before they fully cross over each other (this I suspect is to fit Dana Whites goal of making it look like a knockdown). If it was a knockdown, Cortez would have given the standing 8 count. Thats what he was there to do.
I am suspect of it being a knockdown as well as there were no clean punches landed before it either.
Que more outrage from the fanboys.
darced wrote: » He was really tired in the last and didn't throw for large parts. I would be slightly concerned about the cardio, I would have said he shouldn't be breaking sweat doing 12 on the bag. I am going to throw 250 for a few rounds tomorrow to see whats up:)
Whelo79 wrote: » Gintonious, I think you are reaching spectacularly here thinking Cortez was calling no knockdown. It's a clear knockdown, to me Cortez puts his right hand out to signal to McGregor not to approach any further, seek out a neutral corner. The left hand comes out to signal to Paulie that the fight is stopped. Have a look at the original photo. If he was signalling no knockdown there is no way his left hand would be so slow to be raised. It would react pretty much in unison with the motion of his right.
cloudatlas wrote: » You cannot analyse such a short clip of a fight. Dana is a total dickhead, either you release the whole fight and let the analysts pour over it or you don't release anything.
gilmour wrote: » Ah come on now Wonder, its an impressive feat to throw that many punches for anyone fitness wise but when you are talking about coming up against an elite boxer in 2 weeks time you have to have a higher standard. The quantity of the punches is not what you're looking for, its how they're thrown, the quality and snap behind them, the movement into and out of the punch (his elbows were wide chin up) and then the actual cardio behind it all. All of which Conor looked really really bad in, relative to the fact that in 2 weeks time he is going to be in a boxing ring with Floyd Mayweather. Not any average athlete or fitness programme instructor.
wonderfullife wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkScUQEnts4 Chael covered the Open Workout for ESPN and says he was seriously impressed by Conor, says he looked 'awesome' and pushed a lot harder than Floyd in his workout. Also says Conor throws awkward weird combinations that Floyd will have never seen before. Also says Kenny Florian and Bisping told him back in late 2013 that Conor would be world champion.
