Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

Sweet Science wrote: »

You are wrong . Can't word it any other way

Ohhhh, great argument..... and this shite got thanks??

Gintonious wrote: »

He crosses his hands just before it cuts, thats to signal a no knockdown. No one is reaching for anything.

You're hallucinating / making shit up.

Here are ALL frames of Joe Cortez in that clip and they CLEARLY show that Joe raises his right hand towards Conor and advances towards him and it is not until he is right beside him that we even see his left hand move from his side and at NO POINT do his hands cross!!

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Ohhhh, great argument..... and this shite got thanks??

You're hallucinating / making shit up.

Here are ALL frames of Joe Cortez in that clip and they CLEARLY show that Joe raises his right hand towards Conor and advances towards him and it is not until he is right beside him that we even see his left hand move from his side and at NO POINT do his hands cross!!

The second last frame man! He is bringing his left hand in to signal no knockdown. When you watch the video back you can see it clear as day. If he was telling Conor to go to a corner he would be pointing clearly.

Its cut before you see it fully...I wonder why? :rolleyes:

Gintonious wrote: »

The second last frame man! He is bringing his left hand in to signal no knockdown. When you watch the video back you can see it clear as day. If he was telling Conor to go to a corner he would be pointing clearly.

Its cut before you see it fully...I wonder why? :rolleyes:

Bullshit.

One minute you say he DID signal no-knockdown and now you're saying he is bringing his hand up as he is about to signal a no-knockdown. Absolute baloney.

Here's the LAST frame and his hands are at least six inches apart as you can see Joes right sleeve to the right of McGregor's arm thereby making it impossible for him to simultaneously be crossing his hands when one of them is six inches away .............

Nice try though.

If there was a knockdown they would have showed Cortez giving a standing 8, instead they cut it as Paulie pops straight back up, I wonder why?

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Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

If there was a knockdown they would have showed Cortez giving a standing 8, instead they cut it as Paulie pops straight back up, I wonder why?

I was just gonna say that!

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Bullshit.

One minute you say he DID signal no-knockdown and now you're saying he is bringing his hand up as he is about to signal a no-knockdown. Absolute baloney.

Here's the LAST frame and his hands are at least six inches apart as you can see Joes right sleeve to the right of McGregor's arm thereby making it impossible for him to simultaneously be crossing his hands when one of them is six inches away .............

Nice try though.

You are clutching at straws pal, I said he was signalling a no knockdown, you can see it just as the clip is cut, if it was a knock down and Cortez was hired to give the full deal as a ref, why no count? Why cut it there?

You can see it clear as day, and I have said this to you in the other thread, that he is beginning to signal a no knockdown. Both his palms are even facing down!

You getting your knickers in a twist over my phrasing of it just adds to your denial of it all.

How the hell you can tell the distance of his hands from a still picture taken at that angle is beyond me.

And why is the footage so poor? One angle (Behind Conor) is being shot by Fogerty on a DSLR with a wide angle lense and the other is on Waterboy's smartphone. It's 2017, there isn't a smartphone around these days that shoots in less than 720p, so why does it looks like it was shot on a late 90's Motorola RZR?

A more skeptical man might suggest that the video quality was purposely made poor so that it's hard to see what actually happens wen combined with being cropped and in 1.25x speed.

Judge for yourself people, look at Cortezs hands just before it is cut.

Clear as you like, his left hand comes up as he walks between them, and is about to signal a no knockdown, and then it cuts.

You're caught waffling, Gintonious :P

First you said Joe had crossed his hands, signalling a knockdown:

Gintonious wrote: »

He crosses his hands just before it cuts, thats to signal a no knockdown. No one is reaching for anything.

And then when it's pointed out that you are making s*** up, seeing what you want to see.... you change your tune and now it's that Joe was ABOUT to signal..........

Gintonious wrote: »

Clear as you like, his left hand comes up as he walks between them, and is about to signal a no knockdown, and then it cuts.

Like I said, nice try.......... but Joe's wrists are nowhere near each other in that last frame and that's why you've now changed your story.

I'm not even sure you know what you are arguing about . Are you convinced Conor knocked him down and you want us to agree ?

And you're ignoring the blatantly obvious.

You can clearly see Conor pushing down Paulie's head, you can clearly see him pulling him, you can clearly see Paulie going over before the last hook comes in and you can clearly see him hopping straight back up. And you can clearly see Cortez waving it off as a no knockdown.

As I said above, if it was a knockdown, why would they cut the SECOND Cortez gets in the middle? Why wouldn't they show the standing 8? why didn't they use the original video files instead of cropping them and degrading the quality? Because they wanted to pull a fast one on gullible people who won't ask these questions and deflect from the bad press Conor's workout was getting.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

And you're ignoring the blatantly obvious.

You can clearly see Conor pushing down Paulie's head, you can clearly see him pulling him, you can clearly see Paulie going over before the last hook comes in and you can clearly see him hopping straight back up. And you can clearly see Cortez waving it off as a no knockdown.

As I said above, if it was a knockdown, why would they cut the SECOND Cortez gets in the middle? Why wouldn't they show the standing 8? why didn't they use the original image files instead of cropping them and degrading the quality? Because they wanted to pull a fast one on gullible people who won't ask these questions and deflect from the bad press Conor's workout was getting.

Its a crying shame they didn't play the clip for 2 seconds longer or from a better angle . what a coincidence

Sweet Science wrote: »

Its a crying shame they didn't play the clip for 2 seconds longer or from a better angle . what a coincidence

It's sooooo strange how it cuts RIGHT as Joe comes in the middle and begins to wave his hands...

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

It's sooooo strange how it cuts RIGHT as Joe comes in the middle and begins to wave his hands...

Imagine being one of the people the clip was aimed at knowing they'd lap it up .

Burial.

https://twitter.com/BadouJack/status/896154137351536640

Preparing for a game of touchbutt. Some say there were no losers in that wrestle.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You're caught waffling, Gintonious :P

First you said Joe had crossed his hands, signalling a knockdown:

And then when it's pointed out that you are making s*** up, seeing what you want to see.... you change your tune and now it's that Joe was ABOUT to signal..........

Like I said, nice try.......... but Joe's wrists are nowhere near each other in that last frame and that's why you've now changed your story.

Haha, waffling. You're struggling here pal.

His hands are in the process of calling a knockdown, do I need to word it really specifically for you to understand or is that ok for you. Go and read my response in the MMA forum to get a grasp of things.

Joes wrists are still moving towards each other before the video is cut. I really do wonder why???

If you are going to appear rubbish in the fight you may aswel try look good before it is my thinking

Its also irrelevant if he for some crazy reason looked poor on purpose . Floyd couldnt care less about his workout . He has too much confidence in his own ability to care about Conor

TheCatSpangler

So bizarre to see people acting uppity about the fact that the full sparring session isn't being released in its entirety. When will we see one of Floyd's full sparring sessions in training for the fight released? When does anyone ever release a full video of a sparring session for an upcoming fight? Its an absurd request/expectation. There's very obvious reasons its not something anyone ever does under any circumstances.

Under any cirmunstances, in any fight, it would be an incredibly stupid thing to do, which is why it isn't done. In this particular fight, it would be infinitely more self handicapping.

Burial.

TheCatSpangler wrote: »

So bizarre to see people acting uppity about the fact that the full sparring session isn't being released in its entirety. When will we see one of Floyd's full sparring sessions in training for the fight released? When does anyone ever release a full video of a sparring session for an upcoming fight? Its an absurd request/expectation. There's very obvious reasons its not something anyone ever does under any circumstances.

Under any cirmunstances, in any fight, it would be an incredibly stupid thing to do, which is why it isn't done. In this particular fight, it would be infinitely more self handicapping.

Don't chat sh*t about sparring and publicy embarrassing a guy without releasing the full unedited footage tbh. You hear time and time again of Floyd f*cking lads up in sparring/lads leaving because they're beat up too bad but he's not publicly shaming them. You even have lads like Errol Spence who's known to have f*cked Adrien Broner up in sparring and notably left Floyd with a bruised eye when he sparred him as a pup but he humbly just laughs it off when it's brought up. But there's more class in an aul doll twerking at Coppers then the crowd in the McGregor camp.

Floyd has a complete 0 tolerance towards sparring footage being leaked for better or for worse...I ted to agree. A lot of crazy sh*t happens in sparring, often with little bearing on the real fight.

blade1

It's Paulie that's going on about the sparring more than anyone.
I think he is replying to everyone one that tweets about it.
He's coming across as a right little bitch imo.
Shame really.

blade1 wrote: »

It's Paulie that's going on about the sparring more than anyone.
I think he is replying to everyone one that tweets about it.
He's coming across as a right little bitch imo.
Shame really.

He is . He was punked though in fairness

Danzy

There was a put of a push but nothing special, look at the way Paulie falls, he was bolloxed, the other footage shows it even more so, he got rattled from that straight Left and who wouldn't, it is unusual to see a punch thrown from that distance in a bout, Pauli didn't expect it.

To me he had the look of a man who was punch drunk, it reminds me of a bout I had 15 years ago, lolz, the same flopping.

Was it maybe exhaustion from Pauli, maybe, but he was ****ed either way and that is why he ended up on the canvas, push or no push.

Danzy wrote: »

There was a put of a push but nothing special, look at the way Paulie falls, he was bolloxed, the other footage shows it even more so, he got rattled from that straight Left and who wouldn't, it is unusual to see a punch thrown from that distance in a bout, Pauli didn't expect it.

To me he had the look of a man who was punch drunk, it reminds me of a bout I had 15 years ago, lolz, the same flopping.

Was it maybe exhaustion from Pauli, maybe, but he was ****ed either way and that is why he ended up on the canvas, push or no push.

The straight left happened in a different, later round. The two videos are several rounds apart.

Danzy

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The straight left happened in a different, later round. The two videos are several rounds apart.

I wasn't sure which one was first or last, either way he had the look of a man who had been worked over.

His face had the sign of it as well, was he just exhausted and started taking a beating or was he shook from taking hits.
Look at the way he is bobbing, his hand position when he is doing it, that was a lad who had lost function, whatever the reason.
Pauli is no Floyd though.

Burial.

Paulie's a psycho on Twitter, always has been. He replies to everyone who tweets him, whether bad or good. After a night where he's been commentating and to be fair analysing his ass off, he retweets every complimentary tweet towards him and shoots down anyone chatting nonsense.