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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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gilmour

Mellor wrote: »

He fought at 154lbs three times.
He wore 10oz gloves three times.

Do you see the pattern yet?

Yes sir. However i was talking specifically about the De La Hoya fight when Oscar demanded the fight take place with 10oz heavyweight gloves.

Sweet Science

Jesus I just watched the Gatti fight for the first time in ages . So painful to watch

won't be watching it again anytime soon

gilmour

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

I just made a bet with a mate who is a deluded McGregor fanboy. €200 for a Mayweather win at Evens.

A fool and his money are easily parted.

Have a mate with the McGregor brand beard who is in for 500 even money with me, i initially said 100, he said 500 and i snap called. Got a text of him last night during the workout asking to half it down to 250. Come fight night i'll get him for a grand. I don't bet on anything. This event however, is a gift for the ages.

gilmour

Sweet Science wrote: »

Jesus I just watched the Gatti fight for the first time in ages . So painful to watch won't be watching it again anytime soon

You'll be seeing the directors cut on August 26th

Sweet Science

gilmour wrote: »

You'll be seeing the directors cut on August 26th

Yeah I was thinking that but there is no way Conor goes 6 rounds like that and either the ref doesn't stop it, his corner or Conor has enough himself . Gatti was some man . Seeing his corner console him when they Wouldnt let him back out was a hard watch .

gilmour

Sweet Science wrote: »

Yeah I was thinking that but there is no way Conor goes 6 rounds like that and either the ref doesn't stop it, his corner or Conor has enough himself . Gatti was some man . Seeing his corner console him when they Wouldnt let him back out was a hard watch .

It was a shocking beating, I'd rather be KO'ed stiff in the first round than take that. Do you remember the build up to it at the time? Very similar to this one in many ways. The Gatti fanbase were adamant for a year that Floyd was ducking him, and when it was announced they were going nuts saying Gatti was going to wallop him around the Boardwalk, while the boxers/writers/commentators were saying it was a mismatch.
Floyds trash talk in the build up was legendary.

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

The only reason there's been half a dozen posts is because you can't grasp the difference beteeen the big stage in the Octagon vs the big stage in the boxing ring for Conor, a non boxer.

You're the one that's not grasping it......... :P

For the last time: what bloody difference are you on about, other than that the sport is different and they will be fighting in a different shaped ring?

I have asked you now many times and all you can come back with is nonsense about how this fight will be "under the Vegas lights" and the "biggest stage of all".

Look at it this way, other than a Mayweather vs... name one boxing fight that has done 2 million ppvs in the last ten years? Hell, even Tyson never did that. So you're left with Pacquiao and De La Hoya fights and they only averaged between 1m and 1.4m ppvs....... around the same as UFC events do.

This isn't the 80's or even the 90's, my friend. This huge gulf that you imagine there to be between boxing and UFC just isn't there no more. Those days are long gone.

Sweet Science

Vaguely remember it I was still quite young . The thing that always stuck out for me was between one of the rounds instead of talking to Floyd Roger was talking to the camera 'told you it would be an ass whoppin, and its live on HBO'

Sweet Science

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You're the one that's not grasping it......... :P

For the last time: what bloody difference are you on about, other than that the sport is different and they will be fighting in a different shaped ring?

I have asked you now many times and all you can come back with is nonsense about how this fight will be "under the Vegas lights" and the "biggest stage of all".

Put it this way, other than Mayweather, name one boxing fight that has done 2 million ppvs in the last ten years? Hell, even Tyson never did that. So you're left with Pacquiao and De La Hoya fights and they only averaged between 1m and 1.4m ppvs....... around the same as UFC events do.

This isn't the 80's or even the 90's, my friend. This huge gulfthat you imagine there to be between boxing and UFC just isn't there no more. Those days are long gone.

Wow you really didn't Get the point he was making and went off on one

Also just for the record . UFC ppvs have been shocking this year . Conor is carrying it

Man Vs ManUre

To make it a bit more fair this fight should be in an octagon shaped boxing ring. We can still have the ropes and the corners, just more of them. A ring is circular so the octagon is more similar in shape to a real ring than what a boxing ring is. Can we start a campaign or something to have this change made before Aug 26th??

GerryDerpy

Isn't it odd that they call it a ring in boxing. Just thought of that there. I'll go now.

walshb

Pete, we'll leave it...

As Sweet Science says, you're going by off on one..

Incapable of grasping the point!

Sweet Science

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Isn't it odd that they call it a ring in boxing. Just thought of that there. I'll go now.

Just on that . There used to be a circle in the centre of the ring where the 2 boxers would meet to start the bout . Hence the squared circle reference

Outlaw Pete

Sweet Science wrote: »

Wow you really didn't Get the point he was making and went off on one

Cliquish nonsense as ever :rolleyes:

I know his point. I am merely saying that he could have made it without all the "under the Vegas lights" bollox.

Also just for the record . UFC ppvs have been shocking this year . Conor is carrying it

Absolutely, but boxing has it's golden gooses too. Pacquiao v Horn wasn't even deemed worthy of being put on PPV.

Point is simple: If McGregor loses, it will be because he wasn't good enough, end of story.

What's most laughable here is that if a McGregor fan had suggested that Conor might lose because of this fight being on the biggest stage of all, under the Vegas lights, and could therefore potentially affect his mental well being, causing him to under preform........... you'd all have jumped on them and said they were just setting up an excuse to have if and when McGregor lost..... and you know you would.

Cute that you have each other's backs though.

Burial.

God I cannot wait to have our forum back in time for Canelo/Golovkin

wonderfullife

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I have a feeling, that the magnitude of this event, might be too much for Conor... I think the pressure to perform with the eyes of the world watching, will simply be too much for him! He's completely out of his comfort zone in a boxing ring... this will be obvious for everyone to see very early in the fight imo!

walshb wrote: »

I mentioned the same pages ago. And was dismissed by the fan boys as "not having a clue about who Conor is.!

walshb wrote: »

Like I said, Pete. Like pulling teeth...

Conor has fought on big "MMA" stages. Well done for pointing that out...

Conor headlined UFC 205 in Madison Square Garden.

The gate for UFC 205 was $17.7 million. It broke the MSG gate record. It was *literally* the biggest fight card monetarily ever held in one of the most iconic venues. A-List celebrities (Madonna, Odell Beckham Jr. Leonardo diCaprio etc) were in attendance. The PPV sold over 1.3 million.

To put all of the above into context:

Conor's gate record in MSG was the 4th highest combat sports gate of all-time, it's ahead of Lewis-Holyfield 2, Holyfield-Tyson 1&2, Tyson-McNeeley, Floyd-Maidana 1.

Conor holds 4 of the top 20 PPV's in combat sports history. Conor v Nate 1 is in 6th place, Conor v Nate 2 is in 9th place, Conor v Eddie is in 13th place, Conor v Aldo is in 17th place.

Conor holds 5 of the top 40 gate's in combat sports history.

UFC 189 - $7,200,000
UFC 194 - $10,100,000
UFC 196 - $8,100,000
UFC 202 - $7,700,000
UFC 205 - $17,700,000

In 2 weeks from now, Conor will hold 2 of the top 5 combat sports gate's of all time, with Floyd holding 4 of the top 5.

Those "big MMA stages" you attempted to mock are occasions most boxers could only dream about fighting on with the PPV audience and gate so high with A-list celebrities in attendance.

Conor is not a gym fighter. I've seen sparring footage of him in MMA looking bang-average and when the big lights, big pressure occasion arrives he fights like a world-beater.

You're absolutely delusional if you think the occasion will get to him. He'll rise to it and perform at his very best. If his best is not good enough, fine.

normanoffside

Burial. wrote: »

God I cannot wait to have our forum back in time for Canelo/Golovkin

I can't even be bothered with the over analysing of all the rubbish. It's all hype but some people seem to buy it and want to talk about it over and over...
. I've posted my betslip and that's all i Have to say. I see PP have the odds on Floyd tko/ko/DQ back into 8/11. If that hits evens again I'll be remortgaging the house

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Cant wait for Conor to knock him in first two rounds ðŸ˜€

hbhook

McG's workout..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6iaigSXBU..

0gac3yjefb5sv7

hbhook wrote: »

McG's workout..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6iaigSXBU..

Anything people will be looking out for or this just more a promotional thing?

hbhook

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Anything people will be looking out for or this just more a promotional thing?

Well, he won't have to do anything MW didn't do...I suppose people might want look out for if he looks a lil heavy like MW mentioned but I doubt that will be on show or even that noticeable. I'm only guessing I saw parts of all of the different aspects of Floyd's workout last night. Maybe he kept it simple for a reason...

0gac3yjefb5sv7

hbhook wrote: »

Well, he won't have to do anything MW didn't do...I suppose people might want look out for if he looks a lil heavy like MW mentioned but I doubt that will be on show or even that noticeable. I'm only guessing I saw parts of all of the different aspects of Floyd's workout last night. Maybe he kept it simple for a reason...

Has it been cancelled?

hbhook

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Has it been cancelled?

Nah, these guys reckon we have all day and night to watch them work up a sweat. Watch it in the morning. http://www.boxingscene.com/live-stream-conor-mcgregor-media-day-las-vegas--119403

that's a better link but y'all might want to refresh it now and then just to be sure.

ThinkProgress

wonderfullife wrote: »

Conor is not a gym fighter. I've seen sparring footage of him in MMA looking bang-average and when the big lights, big pressure occasion arrives he fights like a world-beater.

You're absolutely delusional if you think the occasion will get to him. He'll rise to it and perform at his very best. If his best is not good enough, fine.

But you've also seen him fall apart under the lights, and get his a$$ handed to him... by a very average journeyman like Nate Diaz!

He didn't exactly shine under those lights, when he was doing the chicken dance and getting choked out by some rank average dopey pothead...

I think the pressure might have got to him a bit that night. He told the world, that he would swat Nate Diaz away with ease. But... well... it went quite a bit off track for him that night!

Floyd has never had one of those off colour nights... he's never had such a hugely disappointing under-performance in a big high profile fight.

Conor has never fought in a fight of this magnitude before... you can post about all the UFC fights you want, but not one of them will even come close to the size of this thing. Conor has never been under this level of pressure or scrutiny in his entire life. He has never had this many eyes of the world watching him... and (most importantly)... he has never had a professional boxing match in his life!!

When you add all of that up, it's easy to see how he could potentially bottle it under this kind of pressure. If it can happen in the Diaz fight (within his own sport)... then why not against a superstar like Floyd, in his pro debut boxing match, with a giant world audience waiting patiently to see if he can KO one of boxing's greats!? Or if he's just bluffing, like in the Diaz fights!!

I just get the feeling, that he is going to freeze up, like Bambi in headlights... and it's going to be very uncomfortable for people to watch. And I think Floyd senses this too... he knows that Conor has the occasional dodgy performance in his locker... I think that's one of the main reasons why he took this fight to begin with.

I think Conor's two performances against Diaz, were the main dealmakers for Floyd in terms of accepting this fight. I think he seen enough evidence in both those fights, that Conor can under-perform on a big night under the lights... and that he has significant weaknesses in his game, that can easily be exposed by a top boxer in a boxing ring!!

Conor should probably thank Nate Diaz... if he hadn't made Conor look so bad in those fights, Floyd would likely never have accepted this fight!! Silver linings and all that, eh!?

gitzy16v

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Floyd has never had one of those off colour nights... he's never had such a hugely disappointing under-performance in a big high profile fight.

Yes he has...he might not have lost the fight but plenty of disappointing performances from Floyd...couldnt even put away one armed Manny.

[Deleted User]

Conor's bag work is appallingly bad, has to be faking it, his elbows will tell Floyd where the punches are heading otherwise.

StringerBell

He has to be putting it on yeah, but I mean really whats the point?

colly10

Augeo wrote: »

Conor's bag work is appallingly bad, has to be faking it, his elbows will tell Floyd where the punches are heading otherwise.

It's muck, maybe he just finds it weird being surrounded by cameras as he's doing bag work and it's putting him off. If not, I can't see this going the distance.

[Deleted User]

........... it seems he's not faking it, as the "rounds" progress he's getting worse as he tires. Unless he's getting bored ....... elbows miles away from body and hands near to waist as he tires.

pirlo80

I previously had a boards account and forgot my login I created a new account specifically to comment after seeing this open workout.

For all the casuals and delusional people on this thread that think McGregor has a hope in hell of even seeing the 6th round of this fight I urge you to watch the man hitting the bags in this open workout. I genuinely think he will be gone in 4 max 5 - Floyd could probably do it in 2 if he wanted. This is going to be a complete embarrassment for a man I think is a great ambassador for the UFC and Ireland but this is going to be a massacre. The yes men in his camp absolutely sicken me.

That is all.