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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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Mellor

gilmour wrote: »

De La Hoya made him wear the heavyweight 10oz gloves. Make of that what you will. A far superior power puncher putting in a demand like that against a 147lber moving up to 154lbs for the first time.

He fought at 154lbs three times.
He wore 10oz gloves three times.

Do you see the pattern yet?

walshb wrote: »

Who cares about the amount of punches "landed," wonder? You are picking Conor to win...

Well, If I had a $500 bet on the number of punches, I'd care quite a bit tbh.

ThinkProgress

wonderfullife wrote: »

I think Conor will win but he's blown out his ACL twice to varying degrees, he could easily get injured during the fight, ditto Floyd.

Surely it's not only a potential injury that might scupper his chances of winning...!?

Your hero getting injured is the only losing scenario you can imagine? Really!? :rolleyes:

You would also have to factor in the genius boxer standing across the ring from him... don't you think there is a chance that Floyd could simply just be too hot for him to handle on the night? (unless you don't think Floyd has great boxing skills??)

Also, don't forget... Conor has a few poor performances on his MMA record, against average or below average level opposition. So if he's capable of underperforming against those guys (within his own sport)... why would he not be capable of underperforming on the night, against a great boxer, in a sport that is somewhat alien to him!?

Whatever his ability levels are inside a boxing ring... there is no guarantee, that we will even see his full potential in there. We could get the McGregor that turned up against Diaz in the 1st fight.... if that guy shows up, he's in deep sh!t...

He can't afford a bad day at the office against Floyd... he's fighting a guy, who never has a stinker under the lights. That's why he's 49-0 unbeaten.

I have a feeling, that the magnitude of this event, might be too much for Conor... I think the pressure to perform with the eyes of the world watching, will simply be too much for him! He's completely out of his comfort zone in a boxing ring... this will be obvious for everyone to see very early in the fight imo!

begbysback

wonderfullife wrote: »

Well I believe Conor will win the fight barring injury so yeah that was my first thought but I'm 100% willing to admit I was foolish/deluded/mistaken if the fight goes the other way.

Sticky please

walshb

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I have a feeling, that the magnitude of this event, might be too much for Conor... I think the pressure to perform with the eyes of the world watching, will simply be too much for him! He's completely out of his comfort zone in a boxing ring... this will be obvious for everyone to see very early in the fight imo!

I mentioned the same pages ago. And was dismissed by the fan boys as "not having a clue about who Conor is.!

Conor is only a person. He has feelings and emotions.

Being in your comfort zone in the cage can be daunting enough, but now being thrown into the spotlight against a career great in an alien sport? Surely Conor is not naive enough or zoned out enough to not know what the hell he is in for?

Within a minute or tWO if Floyd decides to show skills skills we could see Conor looking really overwhelmed and silly looking. That easily could have some effect on his mental well-being in there.

Like I also said, this could be uncomfortable viewing for the fan boys....

But I guess they can always hope for that KO.....

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

Conor is only a person. He has feelings and emotions.

Whereas Floyd's a cybernetic organism I suppose..............

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Whereas Floyd's a cybernetic organism I suppose.

No, he is a person too.

But somehow (don't ask me) I have a feeling that the career great boxer might just feel a tad bit more comfortable and relaxed under the Las Vegas lights in the squared circle...beating up on the no hoper novice pro.....

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

No, he is a person too.

But somehow (don't ask me) I have a feeling that the career great boxer might just feel a tad bit more comfortable and relaxed under the Las Vegas lights in the squared circle...beating up on the no hoper novice pro.....

No bigger stage than MSG my friend...... Conor may well lose, but it won't have anything whatsoever to do with the magnitude of the event if he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2tu7qj7Xk

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No bigger stage than MSG my friend...... Conor may well lose, but it won't have anything whatsoever to do with the magnitude of the event if he does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I2tu7qj7Xk

I never claimed he'd lose due to the magnitude of the event...

He'll lose because he cannot win.

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

I never claimed he'd lose due to the magnitude of the event...

You said Floyd would be 'more comfortable and relaxed under the Las Vegas lights'.

How is that not suggesting that this is all a bit big for him?

McGregor's has fought under the Las Vegas lights many times too you know.

He's moved on from a the Helix a while now, maybe you hadn't heard.

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You said Floyd would be 'more comfortable and relaxed under the Las Vegas lights'.

How is that not suggesting that this is all a bit big for him?

Oh and McGregor's fought under the Las Vegas lights many times too.

He's moved on from a the Helix a while now, maybe you hadn't heard.

It's like pulling teeth with you....

Conor loses no matter what.

I reckon it's very possible that he looks ridiculous and silly due to him being so out of his comfort zone in a sport alien to him against a career great...

And not sure why you are posting pics of him stepping into octagons...

This is stepping under the lights on the biggest stage of all into the squared circle.

Again, I do not see what is odd in any way to think that the career great boxer will be that bit more comfortable and relaxed under the lights in a boxing ring compared to a man who has never even boxed on any stage professionally.

GerryDerpy

walshb wrote: »

This is stepping under the lights on the biggest stage of all into the squared circle..

Boxing snob :-D

walshb

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Boxing snob :-D

Sometime you just gotta' say it as it is!

Frank Bullitt

I personally don't think the event or setting will affect McGregor, granted the crowd might not be like the usual supportive nature he gets at a UFC event due to the insane ticket prices of this event. I don't think credit unions will be giving loans like that out.

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

This is stepping under the lights....

There'll be lights?? Oh, you mark my words, one day the UFC will be able to afford having those lights switched on too.

..on the biggest stage of all...

Eh, the T-Mobile is the biggest stage of all?

You do realize that McGregor has already fought in the T-Mobile, right?

Sure it will be like home soil to him in comparison to Mayweather who has of course, never fought there.

into the squared circle.

Oh no.... not a squared circle! Does McGregor know about this?

Again, I do not see what is odd in any way to think that the career great boxer will be that bit more comfortable and relaxed under the lights in a boxing ring compared to a man who has never even boxed on any stage professionally.

It's laughable that you would dismiss 205 because the fight was an mma fight and took place in an octagon...... it was a Sold Out MSG! If a 'big stage' was ever going to be McGregor's undoing, then we'd have seen signs of it that night.... but if anything the guy just was even more relaxed, in fact probably the most relaxed in a fight he has ever been. Hands behind back during it evidence of that surely.

Again, he will most likely lose, but if he does it will because he will be outclassed, and simply not up to the task at hand......not because of lights or shapes of rings.

walshb

Like I said, Pete. Like pulling teeth...

Conor has fought on big "MMA" stages. Well done for pointing that out...

In a sport he practices against men he can beat.....

You keep up that narrative and ignore what he is getting into here...

Here he loses not because of the event/stage. He loses because he cannot win.

He loses badly because he cannot lose any other way

Now, the big question is does he freeze and look overly silly and inept due to the magnitude of the event and the stage and the sport?

Outlaw Pete

You're waffling, walshie...... :P

You're going on about how the pressure of it all will all get to him 'under the lights' on the 'biggest stage of all' and when I call on you that bull****, all you have to revert back to is that this is boxing not mma and it's a boxing ring not an octogan................... so your whole point is then that the pressure will be too much for McGregor because this is a boxing match and not mma one.... and so therefore it has nothing to do with all this nonsense about lights and 'big stages' at all... even by even your own words....... so why the hell are you mentioning them to begin with??

It's not an mma fight, yeah, we know.

akelly02

wonderfullife wrote: »

Well I believe Conor will win the fight barring injury so yeah that was my first thought but I'm 100% willing to admit I was foolish/deluded/mistaken if the fight goes the other way.

How does he get it done ?

Id love him to win but my brain is telling me theres more chance of me saddling georgia salpa

GerryDerpy

I think the skill sets of MMA striking and boxing are more similar than Walshie thinks. If McIlroy or Messi was fighting Floyd then his point is 100%. Not for McGregor IMO. Time will tell.

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You're waffling, walshie...... :P

You're going on about how the pressure of it all will all get to him 'under the lights' on the 'biggest stage of all' and when I call on you that bull****, all you have to revert back to is that this is boxing not mma and it's a boxing ring not an octogan................... so your whole point is then that the pressure will be too much for McGregor because this is a boxing match and not mma one.... and so therefore it has nothing to do with all this nonsense about lights and 'big stages' at all... even by even your own words....... so why the hell are you mentioning them to begin with??

It's not an mma fight, yeah, we know.

You don't think it's possible that being so out of his depth that it won't affect how he performs?

Just to be clear I would say the same if Floyd was stepping into Conor's house

Well, let's wait to see how Conor reacts should he be taking a clear beating...

walshb

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I think the skill sets of MMA striking and boxing are more similar than Walshie thinks. If McIlroy or Messi was fighting Floyd then his point is 100%. Not for McGregor IMO. Time will tell.

I agree here, but you need to consider the real possibility of what it could be like or feel like to Conor to be totally outclassed and getting beaten up.

A man used to dominating and winning in the Octagon....

To suggest that this won't affect how he performs or behaves is a little silly. It very well could.

walshb

I am not suggesting that right from bell 1 that Conor will freeze and begin looking stiff and inept and ridiculous. I am saying that when he starts getting dominated and easily handled, will the realism of just what is in front of him really break him?

For starters even before bell 1 you cannot expect him to be as relaxed and comfortable and confident getting into the ring on this big stage compared to getting into the Octagon on this big stage....

Too Tough To Die

I'm sure Conor wont be phased by the big stage, but as the fight progresses and the gulf in class becomes more apparent, those 'big lights' might just start to feel a little hotter. Remember, this is a man who by his own admission panicked in the first fight with Diaz.

Donald Trump

Lads, any truth to the rumour that Colm "Gooch" Cooper is next up for Mayweather?

I mean after having been performing in front of 80,000 spectators many many times over the course of his career, he's surely not going to be nervous or worried?

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

You don't think it's possible that being so out of his depth that it won't affect how he performs?

Well, the things you have cited as examples of what will contribute to him feeling out of his depth...... he has already dealt with and relished and so with respect, I think you don't fully appreciate how big UFC is.

Just to be clear I would say the same if Floyd was stepping into Conor's house

And I would say the same about Floyd funny enough.........

If Floyd trained in mma for a year and was to headline a UFC night, I would be of the opinion that if he lost, it would be simply be because he was not up to the task and not because the octagon and mma were new to him.

You can be damn sure if Conor loses, I will laugh at any fool that suggests that the pressure of it being a different sport, and the fight being in a boxing ring rather than an octogan... were factors in why he lost.

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

You can be damn sure if Conor loses, I will laugh at any fool that suggests that the pressure of it being a different sport, and the fight being in a boxing ring rather than an octogan... were factors in why he lost.

Just so we're clear I was never suggesting that. I won't be one of those fools.

He loses no matter how confident or chilled or relaxed he is, or not chilled or relaxed or confident.

My angle is will it affect his performance?

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, the things you have cited as examples of what will contribute to him feeling out of his depth...... he has already dealt with and relished and so with respect, I think you don't fully appreciate how big UFC is.
.

In UFC....In his own sport (MMA), a sport that he is very good at.

Completely different than feeling out of his depth in a boxing ring

hbhook

The only prediction of mine I'm not fully sure about is the PPVs. Personally i don't think it does better than 'The Snoozefest of the Century' and again last night Floyd talking about his homework on fighters. So he did he know or not that Pacquiao had stop/start sparring leading up to the fight?

Anyways, I've just seen a poster say that a guy called jim boone @kotickets is following the whole ticket thang on twitter. If you're into that type of thing. I'm not on twitter and I've never heard of Jim Boone. Sure it's just something else to talk about..

Outlaw Pete

walshb wrote: »

In UFC....In his own sport (MMA), a sport that he is very good at.

Completely different than feeling out of his depth in a boxing ring

Jesus Christ man, we've just been through with this in half a dozen posts........

Yes there's a boxing ring instead of an octagon and the it's boxing not mma......... yeah, we know..... but you were waffling about his metal well being affected because this is "under the Las Vegas lights " and the "biggest stage". There isn't even a belt on the line ffs and so (when you strip away that bullshit) your whole argument of why this is going to be too much for Conor boils down to this being boxing and not mma :rolleyes:

walshb

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Jesus Christ man, we've just been through with this in half a dozen posts........:

Keep your knickers on, Pete.

The only reason there's been half a dozen posts is because you can't grasp the difference beteeen the big stage in the Octagon vs the big stage in the boxing ring for Conor, a non boxer.

Eyes Down Field

I just made a bet with a mate who is a deluded McGregor fanboy. â‚¬200 for a Mayweather win at Evens.

A fool and his money are easily parted.