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All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

Doodah7

Pictures and write up here but I think this is a fantastic looking seven-seater. A complete redesign from the previous version. So much so that I'm surprised that they called it a 5008.

It will also include a fold-up electric bike that is stored in a slot in the boot!!

It will be interesting to see how much it is here.

More here:
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/peugeot-s-5008-becomes-an-suv-1.2782809

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hairyslug

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Ok so I had a proper look at it today but brought the Misses with me

The wife says "no" :-)

So that is the end of that

That's got to hurt, what was her opinion it.

What are you looking at now

Shefwedfan

hairyslug wrote: »

That's got to hurt, what was her opinion it.

What are you looking at now

She liked the outside of it, said it looked like a Land Rover.

Issues with it is down to size. I had popped the seats up yesterday and she peaked in with seat up and said no chance. No space at all left with seats up. I did convince her to wait till the seat went down but that wasn't any better

In the current SMAX she can fire in our 2 prams without any issue. She wouldn't be able to do it in 5008. As she will be driving it majority of the time and I got my way with eGolf earlier this year I had to walk away. We did ask for a quote on the 1.2 petrol to see if that might change mind but I don't think so.

Personally: No Sat nav on spec was a surprise, I thought it was included. Has the button which always annoys me having a button that does nothing. The console didn't seem great I pushed a few buttons and couldn't really work out what it was doing. Like I pushed radio, went to pick station and it had gone into sleep mode already....maybe it was just me....

For peoples interest it is a 4 month waiting list for delivery. It didn't matter if I went petrol/diesel so they said it would be 181 plate

We went to look at Alhambra and now just putting numbers together so will probably buy that in next hour:P

rman2727

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Ok so I had a proper look at it today but brought the Misses with me

The wife says "no" :-)

So that is the end of that

This is exactly why I'm waiting for the dealers to get in the GT line demos before I show my wife. The active models are very basic looking in comparison. My wife liked the kodiaq, but I think it's extremely boring looking with no design flair at all. Would also be interested in knowing what alternatives you're looking at.

grogi

rman2727 wrote: »

This is exactly why I'm waiting for the dealers to get in the GT line demos before I show my wife. The active models are very basic looking in comparison. My wife liked the kodiaq, but I think it's extremely boring looking with no design flair at all. Would also be interested in knowing what alternatives you're looking at.

Why won't you show her the 3008 and present 5008 as a demonstration how much space there is?

hairyslug

Shefwedfan wrote: »

She liked the outside of it, said it looked like a Land Rover.

Issues with it is down to size. I had popped the seats up yesterday and she peaked in with seat up and said no chance. No space at all left with seats up. I did convince her to wait till the seat went down but that wasn't any better

In the current SMAX she can fire in our 2 prams without any issue. She wouldn't be able to do it in 5008. As she will be driving it majority of the time and I got my way with eGolf earlier this year I had to walk away. We did ask for a quote on the 1.2 petrol to see if that might change mind but I don't think so.

Personally: No Sat nav on spec was a surprise, I thought it was included. Has the button which always annoys me having a button that does nothing. The console didn't seem great I pushed a few buttons and couldn't really work out what it was doing. Like I pushed radio, went to pick station and it had gone into sleep mode already....maybe it was just me....

For peoples interest it is a 4 month waiting list for delivery. It didn't matter if I went petrol/diesel so they said it would be 181 plate

We went to look at Alhambra and now just putting numbers together so will probably buy that in next hour:P

Not sure what your budget is but there are a few ex demo Sorento (platinum) knocking around few very low mileage for 37k

Gwynston

Shefwedfan and myself have been discussing the alternatives in various threads throughout this year. Back in the winter, my interest was piqued when hearing about the forthcoming Kodiaq and new 5008. Both were supposedly 7-seat SUV-alternatives to traditional MPVs.

But it seems that the 5008 can now be added to the list with Kodiaq, Santa Fe, X-Trail, Sorento etc. which simply aren't big enough to be viable replacements for proper MPVs.

I ended up replacing my old S-Max with a new one, and Shefwedfan is now looking at an Alhambra....

rman2727

Shefwedfan wrote: »

We went to look at Alhambra and now just putting numbers together so will probably buy that in next hour:P

We went and looked at these, great idea with the auto sliding side doors, finished reasonably well but ultimately felt very van like, which the wife hated. I loved the space but the design already looks dated and I think they will phase it out shortly. Vw are releasing a longer Tiguan with 7 seats shortly, the Tiguan allspace, might be worth a look.

grogi

rman2727 wrote: »

We went and looked at these, great idea with the auto sliding side doors, finished reasonably well but ultimately felt very van like, which the wife hated. I loved the space but the design already looks dated and I think they will phase it out shortly. Vw are releasing a longer Tiguan with 7 seats shortly, the Tiguan allspace, might be worth a look.

It is going to be the size of Kodiaq.

An SUV will never be as roomy as equally long and tall MPV... Simply because SUV comes with big wheels that look awesome, but eat into the cabin.

Gwynston

rman2727 wrote: »

Vw are releasing a longer Tiguan with 7 seats shortly, the Tiguan allspace, might be worth a look.

Won't be any bigger than the Kodiaq, so same problem.
More like four-and-half-plus-two seats

rman2727

grogi wrote: »

Why won't you show her the 3008 and present 5008 as a demonstration how much space there is?

Thanks, I tried that one a few months ago, but I think it will be an easier sell showing her the gt line and putting the 3 seats in the second row, hopefully!

Shefwedfan

Gwynston wrote: »

Shefwedfan and myself have been discussing the alternatives in various threads throughout this year. Back in the winter, my interest was piqued when hearing about the forthcoming Kodiaq and new 5008. Both were supposedly 7-seat SUV-alternatives to traditional MPVs.

But it seems that they 5008 can bothnow be added to the list with Kodiaq, Santa Fe, X-Trail, Sorento etc. which simply aren't big enough to be viable replacements for proper MPVs.

I ended up replacing my old S-Max with a new one, and Shefwedfan is now looking at an Alhambra....

Between our little discussions about petrol v diesel

You will be glad to hear Im back on 2ltr diesel :P

I originally had thought the Kodiaq would be the option but this failed. Then the 5008 as I liked the look of it. I still like the look of it but it's too small

It looks like direct replacement of SMAX but none in area to my liking, so we went to have a look at Alhambra and she loves it. The extra space versus the SMAX and also the integrated booster seats. I think the integrated booster seat was the winner.

Gwynston

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It looks like direct replacement of SMAX but none in area to my liking, so we went to have a look at Alhambra and she loves it. The extra space versus the SMAX and also the integrated booster seats. I think the integrated booster seat was the winner.

Yeah, sensible option - you have a 4th on the way IIRC?

So, the Alhambra a diesel?

You know it makes sense!

Shefwedfan

rman2727 wrote: »

We went and looked at these, great idea with the auto sliding side doors, finished reasonably well but ultimately felt very van like, which the wife hated. I loved the space but the design already looks dated and I think they will phase it out shortly. Vw are releasing a longer Tiguan with 7 seats shortly, the Tiguan allspace, might be worth a look.

Will be too small....

SmithySeller

Gwynston wrote: »

Shefwedfan and myself have been discussing the alternatives in various threads throughout this year. Back in the winter, my interest was piqued when hearing about the forthcoming Kodiaq and new 5008. Both were supposedly 7-seat SUV-alternatives to traditional MPVs.

But it seems that the 5008 can now be added to the list with Kodiaq, Santa Fe, X-Trail, Sorento etc. which simply aren't big enough to be viable replacements for proper MPVs.

What's a proper MPV? Do you mean full 7 seaters, i.e. Alhambra etc? The new 5008 has more internal space than the outgoing 5008 MPV and is similar/same to the G Picasso, two MPVs that sold very well. I think this was always clear with this particular car, its a 5+2. It was widely marketed as a C Segment Compact 7 Seater.
Now the Kodiaq I can understand the frustration of potential customers, Skoda tried to sell this and continue to tout it as a large SUV/7 Seater, quite simply it is not.
But the 5008 clearly should not be bracketed with the above, XTrail etc, the second row alone differentiates it substantially to my mind. You can climb into and sit in the third row (Im 5'10"), unlike the XTrail.
Does it compare to the Allhambra, Galaxy etc, absolutely not.

rman2727

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It looks like direct replacement of SMAX but none in area to my liking, so we went to have a look at Alhambra and she loves it. The extra space versus the SMAX and also the integrated booster seats. I think the integrated booster seat was the winner.

Yeah the integrated booster seats are a fantastic idea, really like them in the caravelle too. Some great value on high spec Alhambra / Sharan's in the uk, might be an option. The awd smax is also more common in the uk. If I was expecting a fourth child I would definitely be going for the Alhambra / Sharan or the caravelle. Love the option of the table and swivel front seats in the caravelle for family day trips.

SmithySeller

BTW I think your missus is 100% correct IMO. For me 4 kids means Alhambra all the way. I remember discussing the integrated boosters, it seems they are not at all standard on the UK Spec LUX SE Model, or certainly very scarce.

Gwynston

Well I was just going by what Shefwedfan said for his purposes - I haven't looked at a new 5008 myself.

I gave up waiting after dismissing the Kodiak - and all the other SUVs - because they don't offer enough width across the middle row for my purposes.

So the 5008 might have been a possibility, but too late for me now.

SmithySeller

No I hear you. Go up a segment to something like X5 and you still have the same issue in the 2nd row. I have 3 small ones, but I still wont rule out a Alhambra or an SMax (If I was lucky enough to fall across one like you did!)

Shefwedfan

Gwynston wrote: »

Well I was just going by what Shefwedfan said for his purposes - I haven't looked at a new 5008 myself.

I gave up waiting after dismissing the Kodiak - and all the other SUVs - because they don't offer enough width across the middle row for my purposes.

So the 5008 might have been a possibility, but too late for me now.

The back row is seats are ok and 3 ISOfix

The boot is small compared to SMAX and that is issue. We have more kids now than when we bought the SMAX so no point reducing boot space.

grogi

SmithySeller wrote: »

The new 5008 has more internal space than the outgoing 5008 MPV and is similar/same to the G Picasso, two MPVs that sold very well. I think this was always clear with this particular car, its a 5+2. It was widely marketed as a C Segment Compact 7 Seater.

That's not entirely true... While in 5 seat configuration the 5008 it might be spacier in the second row than the old one, in 7 seat configuration it has more-less same amount of room as the previous gen.

Plus any SUV will have less headroom than its sister MPV. I can comfortably seat in the C4GP in the second row, I am touching the ceiling in the 5008.

grogi

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The boot is small compared to SMAX and that is issue. We have more kids now than when we bought the SMAX so no point reducing boot space.

And you needed to see the demo car to find that out!? It was obvious from the beginning that will be the case...

Shefwedfan

grogi wrote: »

And you needed to see the demo car to find that out!? It was obvious from the beginning that will be the case...

Can you tell from the current pictures online how big the boot is compared to SMAX?

If you can your some person...

grogi

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Can you tell from the current pictures online how big the boot is compared to SMAX?

If you can your some person...

I told it many times - go and check Citroen C4 GP.

5008 is using same platform, same seats and same configuration. Yes, I could tell it is abysmal, although there is pleanty of room under the seats once they are up.

SmithySeller

grogi wrote: »

That's not entirely true... While in 5 seat configuration the 5008 it might be spacier in the second row than the old one, in 7 seat configuration it has more-less same amount of room as the previous gen.

Plus any SUV will have less headroom than its sister MPV. I can comfortably seat in the C4GP in the second row, I am touching the ceiling in the 5008.

OK, I'll caveat what I said, bar head room

Leg space is where it's at for us smaller folk!!

SmithySeller

Regarding the Boot and that the fact that I have driven and been in plenty of the current G Picasso and own a current 5008, it was clear to me watching online videos that it was the same size boot. But that mightn't be clear to others.

Usually when carrying that extra passenger we just run in 6 seat mode which means you have plenty of boot space regardless. But that's not for everyone I know. The Kodiaq has less third row space (I believe) which allows for greater boot space (just for comparison purposes).

AstraMonti

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Are you sure both cars have a 50l tank? I know I thought this on previous cars and I was going by full tank till I realized the diesel had a 70l tank compared to the petrol car. For majority of diesels and 50l tank would be small.

Sorry I didn't phrase it correctly. For every 50L I do, I can get around 550 with the petrol (1.6 mazda from 2007) and at least 850 on the diesel (85 1.5dCI renault 2011). I consistently get 5.2l/100 in the renault while most of the time i am close or above 9 on the mazda.

I have no issues at all going with the small engine if it can provide similar numbers to the diesel in regards to range and consumption. I just can't find any concrete information.

From reviews on the 3008 1.2 I saw these:

Peugeot claims average fuel consumption of 54.3 mpg. I managed barely half that with 32.6, although I only drove the car for just over 200 miles, so I would concede that my calculation might not be definitive.

Peugeot traditionally performs well in official fuel economy tests, and the 3008 is no exception. The most economical diesel model managed 70.6mpg, while the 1.2 petrol recorded 55mpg. Our tests were in very low mileage cars, which struggled to top 40mpg. However, we’d expect this to improve significantly with more miles on the engine, matching the likes of the Seat Ateca and Mazda CX-5.

And generally I 've seen that above 35 will be quite hard with the size of 5008. So far seems the 1.6 diesel makes more "sense", but going petrol I would save 2.5k plus I'd get an automatic at that price.

grogi

AstraMonti wrote: »

Sorry I didn't phrase it correctly. For every 50L I do, I can get around 550 with the petrol (1.6 mazda from 2007) and at least 850 on the diesel (85 1.5dCI renault 2011). I consistently get 5.2l/100 in the renault while most of the time i am close or above 9 on the mazda.

I have no issues at all going with the small engine if it can provide similar numbers to the diesel in regards to range and consumption. I just can't find any concrete information.

From reviews on the 3008 1.2 I saw these:

And generally I 've seen that above 35 will be quite hard with the size of 5008. So far seems the 1.6 diesel makes more "sense", but going petrol I would save 2.5k plus I'd get an automatic at that price.

For 5008 1.2T, spritmonitor gives average (from a small sample, but better than nothing) of 7.15l/100km. No reliable data for diesel.
C4GP with same motor has much more users - average ~7.5l/100km. Diesel returns 5.6l/100km. source

The consumptions for 5008 might be a bit higher than those for C4GP - bigger wheels and less bubbly shape. How many miles would you need get that €2500 back?

hairyslug

Went to have a look at it today, I must have been one of the first as it was still in French, doesn't seem like he's had many queries on it as he was still fairly green about it.

Anyway it fits us but just about, I'm only 5ft7, if I was any taller, I think it would impact on where i had the 2nd row and in turn the legroom of the 3rd. We would be using it as a 6 seater so there's no problems with boot space. We are looking at 39k for a GT line, 2k more than a Sorento but the mpg is much better. I'm not sold on it yet, she is.

messermaguire

Brought my wife to look at it today. She wasn't impressed........and that is the end of my 5008 journey. She prefers the Kodiaq

sReq | uTeK

messermaguire wrote: »

Brought my wife to look at it today. She wasn't impressed........and that is the end of my 5008 journey. She prefers the Kodiaq

But with the seats up which you would need for the kodiaq the boot room is minimal. My missus is the same prefers the kodiaq