windy shepard henderson wrote: » dont think we are that far behind but galway and tipp were not afraid to make any changes to there setups , it seems we were and we paid for it players playing in there suited positions , no provisions made for players today any player that was having a bad day was taken off , its a well known fact that certain players were performing better in challenge games ,training or league games and couldnt get a starting place come championship tipperary didnt start jason forde today on the basis that he might come good , but we started players like conlon , like podge and even at times kelly when they were not performing , peter duggan was on the verge of leaving the panel as there was nothing more he could do to put his name forward , he got his chance eventually when it was too late in both the cork and tipp games , jason mccarthy , jamie shannahan , ian galvin all over looked at different times as well , we have a very strong panel but we are not using it properly , you need to go with your form players , you need to take your chances when you get them and if players are not performing you dont play them regardless of who they are
funnyname wrote: » Ah now that's totally unfair, Canning has been out of sorts manys a year. He hasn't been a total superstar since he burst onto the scene. Kelly will rise again
Clareman wrote: » How is it unfair? Kelly was captain last year, hurler of the year 4 years ago and was named as our key player almost everytime he was mentioned, unfortunately he just didn't produce a decent performance after the AI Club Semi final, his wides in particular at the end of the game against Tipp were terrible.
deaddonkey15 wrote: » It wasn't just Kelly that let us down this year. A lot of the praise for Galway earlier in the year was about how potent their forwards were and how they were all chipping in with many scores and not just relying on Canning. We don't have many forwards who step up and make big contributions to the side. The Galway side is full of absolute monsters as well that are able to win ball.
funnyname wrote: » Unfair in that Canning hasn't always been a superstar for Galway, so give Kelly a break, judge him after next year.
Clareman wrote: » I'm just comparing this year 1 match to another, in my opinion if Tony Kelly gave a last 20 minutes against Tipp as Joe Canning did Clare would have won
deaddonkey15 wrote: » You're being very harsh on Kelly. It's not as easy as just deciding to give a good last 20 mins. Canning was poor in the first half yesterday but the rest of the Galway side stepped up and kept them in it. They didn't hit stupid wides and they're keeper didn't pick out Tipp players for 3 or 4 puck outs before half time either.
Clareman wrote: » I watched the Tipp game back and 2 of the puck outs wasn't down to the goalie, the defenders totally missed the ball. I think the problem with a lot of our players is we aren't allowed be harsh on them, sure they're only young, sure they're on the road a lot, sure they whatever
deaddonkey15 wrote: » I'd agree with that but singling out Kelly is a bit harsh. When they were analysing Tipp before the game yesterday they were showing some clips from the Clare match in July. In one of the clips Conlon failed to rise the ball twice - the first attempt under little pressure. In another clip Cian Dillion had the ball in hand but somehow managed to lose ball and hurley as Tipp turned it over. Both resulted in points points conceded. Kelly was disappointing but we were riddled with mistakes all over the pitch in that game. If I recall correctly, Conlon hit one or two unforgivable wides for an inter county player.
Clareman wrote: » The annoying thing is that I think we are actually better than them, not just as good but better
Tell me how wrote: » Was in Dublin for weekend so decided to go to Croke Park yesterday for Mayo/Roscommon. (who do I apply to for a refund?) Seriously though, hard to believe that Clare gave that Mayo team a serious game until the goals shifted things considerably. At half time that day in the park, I was thinking, "We could do this". Then again, Roscommon nearly beat them last week... P. S. Fair play to Mayo supporters. They always travel and are always loud and supportive. Saw a couple yesterday with 3 children including one in a buggy and no bother to them, all 5 and the buggy made it to Hogan stand without incident or inconvenience to others.
danganabu wrote: » Ah will you stop for the love of god :rolleyes: One team that has reached 7 of the last 8 AI semi finals, and other team had one good year and have beaten a sum total of Offaly, Laois and limerick in 4 years is better and you think it is the latter that is the better team, jaysus you couldn't actually make it up
Clareman wrote: » I was talking about on the day rather than over the past 8 years.
letowski wrote: » Bridge Ballyea was a good game of hurling this evening. Ballyea should still have a say, it wasn't like they played badly or anything, they were toe to toe for most of the game. Sending off effected them although the Bridge were a bit better on the balance of play. Bridge are very focused, the are usually strongest on a bounce back year.
letowski wrote: » Cratloe will have a big say too of course. I'm kind of expecting McGrath to get going this autumn, wasn't his usual best for the county but he has missed half the year. I think he will hit his stride over the next few weeks and give Cratloe a good chance, they have a team loaded with talent.
windy shepard henderson wrote: » cratloe and newmarket are huge dark horses , colin ryan is pretty much back to his best , scored 1-12 out of 1-18 tonight , inter county team needs him next year too , if he remains on form they will be very hard to stop they always have strong defensive sides and very hard to break down cratloes find of billy conners will be huge for there forward line , and having the likes of shane gleason and david collins playing well it takes huge pressure of the marque players , full back line a major concern for them , but with out a doubt the best forwards in the championship crusheens 15 minute mini revival in the second half leaves me to think they will have plenty to stay up , clarecastle in huge trouble i think
letowski wrote: » Strange to see Clarecastle go back so far, they didn't have a bad year last year. They have been competitive underage, very strong hurling community. Then it goes to show like with Kilmaley last year, you can have young talent coming through, doesn't always translate to senior straight away.
Redsoxfan wrote: » How many are relegated?
Figerty wrote: » Do Clarecastle have significant talent coming through? Don't think they have the quantity required. Ballyea lads will stay where they will. Clarecastle very likely to go down.
