walshb wrote: » ThinkProgress relating to athleticism of wrestlers: You can see this in the UFC I took it that he didn't view them as having great athleticism in areas of UFC that are not wrestling specific or related.
walshb wrote: » But it wasn't what he meant. I interpreted it. ThinkProgress relating to athleticism of wrestlers: You can see this in the UFC I took it that he didn't view them as having great athleticism in areas of UFC that are not wrestling specific or related.
Mellor wrote: » The post I quoted was also talking about wrestlers in their wrestling careers, not simply wrestlers in the UFC. I'm paraphrasing here, but it was something like "Wrestlers don't have much athletism. If they join the UFC they start working on it then". I just thought it's a bizzare view. They are different sports.
ThinkProgress wrote: » [ched You cannot just remove the specific conditioning from those striking skills... both are intrinsically linked together!
DC's physical attributes would never really allow him to mix it as an elite level MMA striker in a 5 round fight... with someone like JJ... he did remarkably well to somewhat pull it off for as long as he did. (but it clearly depleted him a lot by the time of the KO)
(you can see this in striking sports such as kickboxing and Muay Thai... where guys regularly survive heavy kicks such as those)
Part of the process of gaining those high level striking skills, is also gaining the physical attributes and conditioning to actually perform them well enough within the energy-sapping intensity and speed of a fight.
walshb wrote: » Well, I think all considered the poster didn't intent to flat out say that wrestlers were not athletic.
You mentioned them needing a much bigger cardio system/engine compared to boxers... I don't agree with that. They have a different cardio engine requirement and make up, that's all. Stamina sapping wise pro boxing is every bit as much as pro wrestling.
Mellor wrote: » Maybe not, but I can only reply to what's posted. Flicking through a few days worth, that one stood out as bizzare. And tbf, I did say that it was out of sorts with his usual logical posting. Point clarified not anyway. I think you are misinterpreting my car/engine analogy. Cardio as a whole is too multi-faceted to be quantified in terms as simple as "bigger", "greater", etc. By engine I was referring to cardio power output, (moften called intensity (not to be confused with difficulty). I suppose stamina would be the gas tank in that analogy. The higher the power output, the shorter duration it can be maintained for. I differebt sports aside, that's just human physiology. It's difficult compare two different activities. So the best example is probably running due to the different distances/intensities. That the 1500m and the 10km. The elite guys in each have fantastic cardio abilities. They adjust their power output/intensity to match the distance, crossing the line close to the limit. But neither race is inherently "easier" than the other.
Gintonious wrote: » 25 Euro for the fight with Sky, not bad if there is a decent under card.
Man Vs ManUre wrote: » The Notorious will win this Easy. Why do most on here think otherwise?? I read about 2 pages back can't be bothered reading any more.
Sweet Science wrote: » https://youtu.be/qcf8E4Cokb8 Didn't think Paulie would be so honest but fair play to him I suppose .
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » Fairly complimentary for McGregor to be fair.
Sweet Science wrote: » Thought he would of bigged him up a lot more
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » Why? Doesn't make sense for him to make **** up for the media. He still said that McGregor has power that needs to be respected.
GerryDerpy wrote: » Precision beats power. McGregor has good punching technique and respectable power (Pauline's words). If that lands on an unsuspecting chin then it hurts enough. This has been said before, McGregor rarely KOs people in MMA, he drops them and the ref stops the fight. I can only remember Aldo being KO'd stiff in Conor's UFC career.
walshb wrote: » His issue I feel will be that he won't deliver the "out of the blue" shot on Floyd. That is what can KO the likes of Floyd and plenty others. Mosley delivered a couple in rd 2, but Mayweather rode them very slightly and survived them... Conor's delivery too slow....
walshb wrote: » And secretly he is hoping (and knowing) that Floyd dominates Conor.
The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: » McGregor has good punching technique for MMA, whether it transfers to boxing will be interesting to see. IMO I don't think he lands any clean on Floyd's chin and even if he does I don't think he has enough to knock Floyd down never mind out.
GerryDerpy wrote: » Fairly sure he sparred Pauline in Boxing. Don't think kinetic energy knows what sport it is used in.