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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 4) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match
The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit so here's part 4.

The same rules as the last thread apply here. People seem to have strong opinions either way when it comes to McGregor and threads here tend to get a bit heated from time to time. Please keep it civil and discuss all things Conor in a mature way.

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Too Tough To Die

wonderfullife wrote: »

No, I'm in good company thinking his ego is both his biggest strength and biggest weakness.

http://www.boxingscene.com/degale-mayweather-talks-rubbish-big-ego-all-about-him--112774

http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/05/mike-tyson-slams-small-scared-man-floyd-mayweather-for-muhammad-ali-comparison-6685793/

https://www.ringtv.com/385527-floyd-mayweather-jr-s-early-years-from-the-ring-magazine/

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/boxing-mma/floyd-mayweather-is-an-insufferable-egomaniac-but-it-works-brilliantly-for-him-writes-ron-reed/news-story/ef4564749ad59426433a2f8c35343397

http://deadspin.com/is-manny-pacquiaos-promoter-sabotaging-the-floyd-maywea-1683524338

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2011/jul/22/floyd-mayweather-jr-amir-khan

http://www.thesweetscience.com/feature-articles/20430-a-fallen-floyd-fights-for-life-after-death

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/9241028/what-floyd-mayweather-jr-zero-worth

http://www.foxsportsasia.com/news/mcgregor-playing-mayweathers-ego/

https://www.caymancompass.com/2015/02/27/mayweather-s-ego-is-greater-than-his-record/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1085504-floyd-mayweather-legendary-boxers-ego-will-continue-to-cause-trouble

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/8233092/Kevin-Pietersen-and-the-top-10-sporting-egos.html

http://thecruelestsport.com/2009/11/23/the-ego-is-always-at-the-wheel-why-floyd-mayweather-jr-seems-so-hesitant-to-fight-manny-pacquiao/

http://www.spin.ph/boxing/manny-pacquiao/haymaker/floyd-mayweather-ego-trip-loses-wbo-welterweight-title-belt-crown-stripped-manny-pacquiao

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/68236914/mayweatherpacquiao-rematch-temptation-fuelled-by-ego-cash

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/05/floyd-mayweather-sr-discredits-a-future-champion-to-satisfy-his-sons-ego/

Which one of those links allude to his ego being fragile? I clicked the first four and they just say he has a big ego, which is hardly surprising.

EagererBeaver

MMayweather wrote: »

What? Why are you saying lol?

Because of your ranting gibberish about liberals and social justice warriors.

VW 1

Alf Veedersane wrote:

2,192 reps. I don't care what weight is on the bar but it won't be pleasant after 2,192 reps.

Completely agree, but its not as if he's the holder of a record that people regularly compete with each other to try to break, its very much a niche record.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

Lots of Mexican supplements in auld Julian's diet I'd imagine. Coming from cycling back in the wild west days doesn't really inspire confidence of him being all Natty.

Wasn't he only a national level competitor?

I'd treat most pro athletes with a level of skepticism with regard to using supplements that are against the rules these days, regardless of who is doing the testing.

EagererBeaver

Cycling is a different kettle of fish altogether I think though, especially anyone from Dalby's era.

Lukker-

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Cycling is a different kettle of fish altogether I think though, especially anyone from Dalby's era.

Was doping big in the regional scene in the late 80's? I've no idea, but I didn't think it really took a hold until later on.

VW 1

Can't speak to the regional scene but I've read Kimmage's book and use of amphetamines/PEDs for all types of races for all levels of riders including domestiques, including crits was completely normal on the continent in this period.

[Deleted User]

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Lots of Mexican supplements in auld Julian's diet I'd imagine. Coming from cycling back in the wild west days doesn't really inspire confidence of him being all Natty.

An ex-cyclist turned powerlifting doctor with huge gut is definitely an odd character for Conor to be associated with.

Dalby talks about the ethics of doping on the podcast below and his views are a little interesting to say the least. He is very reluctant to criticize doping and likens it to drinking alcohol. He even suggests doping can be an 'equalizer' for developing nations because EPO is cheaper than altitude training.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Panel_on_Off_the_Ball/163080/Lance_Armstrongs_ethics_the_values_of_sport

(Lance Armstrong's ethics, the values of sport Show: Off The Ball Sat, 22 October 2016)

Very odd.

Lukker-

Deleted User wrote: »

An ex-cyclist turned powerlifting doctor with huge gut is definitely an odd character for Conor to be associated with.

Dalby talks about the ethics of doping on the podcast below and his views are a little interesting to say the least. He is very reluctant to criticize doping and likens it to drinking alcohol. He even suggests doping can be an 'equalizer' for developing nations because EPO is cheaper than altitude training.

http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/The_Panel_on_Off_the_Ball/163080/Lance_Armstrongs_ethics_the_values_of_sport

Very odd.

Just looks like the gut of a man approaching his late 40's who power lifts to me.

You'll find lots of people who don't criticise the ethics of doping, people like Rumble Johnson have said they see why people do it and he wouldn't criticise a team mate for getting caught, doesn't mean they themselves dope.

Dalby himself is a fully qualified doctor and consultant, if anyone knows the health risks of doping it would be him.

wonderfullife

Too Tough To Die wrote: »

Which one of those links allude to his ego being fragile? I clicked the first four and they just say he has a big ego, which is hardly surprising.

Lots of them.

Throw in "Floyd Mayweather fragile ego" into the google machine, you'll get tons of articles on it

wonderfullife

weldoninhio wrote: »

Yeah, McGregor is probably just a big fan of CJ Watson's. He may not have literally said it. But he knew exactly what he was doing and what he was implying and to deny it is absolutely laughable.

What he was doing, effectively, is:

"hahahaha your woman was cheating on you with CJ Watson because you're not man enough for her".

Nothing to do with domestic violence. If he wanted to reference domestic violence he'd have referenced it.

.ak

Gintonious wrote: »

Loma would dance rings around Conor (literally) if they sparred/fought.

That would be a terrible, terrible, terrible idea for McGregor.

Win or learn.

Frank Bullitt

xtal191

EagererBeaver

.ak wrote: »

Win or learn.

He'd be learning how to eat through a straw with the damage a boxer as brilliant as Lomachenko would do to him, despite the size disparity.

[Deleted User]

Gintonious wrote: »

I know Paulie thinks he's going back to Conor's camp next week but i'd be surprised if they take him back after all the talking he has done. He is worse than Van Heerden. And the funny thing is that Paulie originally said he wouldn't spar Conor unless they signed an NDA

Especially after downplaying Conor's power - he is most likely being entirely honest but McGregor's power is an angle that Showtime and Dana have tried to use to sell the fight.

Frank Bullitt

Deleted User wrote: »

I know Paulie thinks he's going back to Conor's camp next week but i'd be surprised if they take him back after all the talking he has done. He is worse than Van Heerden. And the funny thing is that Paulie originally said he wouldn't spar Conor unless they signed an NDA

Especially after downplaying Conor's power - he is most likely being entirely honest but McGregor's power is an angle that Showtime and Dana have tried to use to sell the fight.

What did he say? About the power not being god-like? Thats hardly grounds to not bring him back.

posturingpat

He's said sweet F.A really, Paulie's an out and out blabbermouth so if he was going to talk about the sparring sessions we'd need a 25minute video.

DuffleBag

I see photos of Eddie Alvarez in checking out Conor's camp today.

DuffleBag

I see photos of Eddie Alvarez in checking out Conor's camp today.

Frank Bullitt

DuffleBag wrote: »

I see photos of Eddie Alvarez in checking out Conor's camp today.

Linky linky please.

DuffleBag

Gintonious wrote: »

Linky linky please.

Bradley had them up on his snapchat

wonderfullife

DuffleBag wrote: »

Bradley had them up on his snapchat

Eddie is training and filming at the UFC Performance Institute for The Ultimate Fighter so I imagine it was just a selfie.

weldoninhio

wonderfullife wrote: »

What he was doing, effectively, is:

"hahahaha your woman was cheating on you with CJ Watson because you're not man enough for her".

Nothing to do with domestic violence. If he wanted to reference domestic violence he'd have referenced it.

It's amazing the insight you have into Conor's mind. Us peasants can only go on what's been said, and Floyds exes statement.

But you can cut through it all and see directly into Conor's mind. That's such a gift.

[Deleted User]

Gintonious wrote: »

What did he say? About the power not being god-like? Thats hardly grounds to not bring him back.

The video is right above. It's better to watch it than to for me to quote because a lot of it is his body language and tone of voice. The gist is he is totally unimpressed with Conor, his power etc. Basically shrugging his shoulders saying 'yeah he was okay...nothing special'.

You might say they are fair and expected comments given Paulie's level and experience. But they are trying to sell a fight and Paulie is actually part of the whole show.

One of the elements they are using to try to pitch it to fans is Conor's mystical power. "When Conor hits people they go down" is verbatim one of the soundbites they have regurgitated over and over. I have heard both Dana and Elerbe say it multiple times.

When you are playing these soundbites and then you have a respected boxer going "meh, his power was nothing special" that's surely not going to go down well with anybody. Not Conor's camp, not Showtime, not even the Mayweather side (who were trying to talk Conor up to sell the fight).

And then you have the whole NDA thing. He is just talking too much, like that Van Heerden guy.

MMayweather

Conor is not a power puncher and never had been. He can't hurt Floyd but he will still run

Swashbuckler

MMayweather wrote:

Conor is not a power puncher and never had been. He can't hurt Floyd but he will still run

Conor has never been a power puncher??? What?

finglashoop

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Conor has never been a power puncher??? What?

Regardless in mma his timing and precision are exceptional.

Subcomandante Marcos

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Conor has never been a power puncher??? What?

He's not getting walk off KO's like Hunt or Big Country or Woodley, all his KO's in the UFC have been TKO's except for aldo I think? He has power but it's his shot selection and technique that get him the wins, not raw power like the powerbombs the yank wrestlers are throwing with their overhand rights that are sloppy but when they connect send people into orbit.

Link in MMA terms I'd say people with "OMG" power would be Woodley, Hunt, Henderson, Big Country. When they connect people are instantly out cold. Conor isn't relying on one big bomb to get people out of there, he's picking shots and running off combos until the other guy can't defend anymore.

[Deleted User]

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He's not getting walk off KO's like Hunt or Big Country or Woodley, all his KO's in the UFC have been TKO's except for aldo I think? He has power but it's his shot selection and technique that get him the wins, not raw power like the powerbombs the yank wrestlers are throwing with their overhand rights that are sloppy but when they connect send people into orbit.

Link in MMA terms I'd say people with "OMG" power would be Woodley, Hunt, Henderson, Big Country. When they connect people are instantly out cold. Conor isn't relying on one big bomb to get people out of there, he's picking shots and running off combos until the other guy can't defend anymore.

Rumble

Swashbuckler

Subcomandante Marcos wrote:

Link in MMA terms I'd say people with "OMG" power would be Woodley, Hunt, Henderson, Big Country. When they connect people are instantly out cold. Conor isn't relying on one big bomb to get people out of there, he's picking shots and running off combos until the other guy can't defend anymore.

I get what you're saying but all the examples you used are from WW and above.

I 100% think Conor is a power puncher. I reckon he has vicious power in that left hand. Poirier dropped like a sack of spuds, Aldo, Brimage. Walk off ko's no but power puncher absolutely.