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Facebook posts $3.89Bn profit, up 71%. Would you buy shares in them? If not them, who

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Facebook posts $3.89bn quarterly profit, up 71% from last year

Shares hit record high after figure is much higher than expected, with total revenue climbing 44.8% thanks to increased mobile video ad sales

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/26/facebook-quarterly-profit-revenue-mobile-ads

Their share price has jumped 4% in a few hours.

Do you own shares in any companies like Facebook, Google etc? I think those two, along with Amazon, would be safe enough bets for seeing a decent return in the medium to long term.

Obviously no shares are completely safe, but I think those 3 companies, and maybe Uber too, could have far better growth potential over 20-30 years than something like a pension fund.

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Wossack

Speaking of.. At the end of the film forest gump, Lt. dann invests all the bubba gump money for Forest in some sort of fruit company (apple computer). We all chuckled at silly Forest when we saw the letterhead.

If you had invested just $1000 in apple in 1994 (when the film first came out), it'd be worth >150k today

Geuze

wonderwall900 wrote: »

Obviously no shares are completely safe, but I think those 3 companies, and maybe Uber too, could have far better growth potential over 20-30 years than something like a pension fund.

Pension funds are typically invested in shares like these.

A small pension fund I have owns:

APPLE INC 1.8%
MICROSOFT CORP 1.3%
JOHNSON & JOHNSON 1.1%
PROCTER & GAMBLE CO/THE 0.9%
FACEBOOK INC 0.8%
VERIZON COMMUNICATIONS INC 0.8%
GENERAL ELECTRIC CO 0.8%
BANK OF AMERICA CORP 0.8%
MERCK & CO INC 0.7%
PEPSICO INC 0.7%

eeguy

Bono will be happy

nice_guy80

Wossack wrote: »

Speaking of.. At the end of the film forest gump, Lt. dann invests all the bubba gump money for Forest in some sort of fruit company (apple computer). We all chuckled at silly Forest when we saw the letterhead.

If you had invested just $1000 in apple in 1994 (when the film first came out), it'd be worth >150k today

funny.
just watched Forrest last night

Stupid is as stupid does...

Dinarius

We currently have an entire economy predicated on zero interest rates. As a result, money has to find a home. It cannot be put on deposit.

So...

1. Stock markets rise

2. House prices rise; money is now as cheap to borrow as it will ever be. The corollary of this is that mortgage repayments are as cheap as they will ever be. They can only go up, while houses prices will, eventually, only go down. People buying now should be buying *only* on the basis of being able to repay a fixed rate mortgage. I doubt many of them are. (Ps. If and when rates do eventually rise, legislators should have the cojones to allow tracker mortgages to rise to meet, or approximate, those on variable rates; rather than having variable rates rise pari passu. But, I doubt they will.)

3. The art market has gone crazy. (The weekly art market report in Saturday's FT makes fascinating reading.)

With all this financial exuberance (insanity?), is it any wonder that those trying to take a more sober view have also sent the bitcoin market soaring?

The thing is though, can any government afford to increase rates? We at the edge of the cliff as it is. So, maybe this madness can continue for a while yet.

D.

wonderwall900

Dinarius wrote: »

2. House prices rise; money is now as cheap to borrow as it will ever be. The corollary of this is that mortgage repayments are as cheap as they will ever be. They can only go up, while houses prices will, eventually, only go down.

This is an interesting and for some a scary point. It is your thought that housing prices will reach a point where they will never rise again and just keep dropping?

I don't think that's ever been seen in any economic cycle ever before.

Dinarius

wonderwall900 wrote: »

This is an interesting and for some a scary point. It is your thought that housing prices will reach a point where they will never rise again and just keep dropping?

I don't think that's ever been seen in any economic cycle ever before.

Have we ever had an economic cycle where rates were, effectively at zero and, yet, the economy was seriously on the up? I don't know.

What we have now is an inversion, it seems to me. Usually, when an economy is in good shape, rates rise to temper it.

Because of the Euro and uniformity, we have one size fits all.

10 years ago, we had rates that were higher, and we still blew up. But, any (reasonable) % rise back then would have been small in relative terms to a similar rise now, in terms of its effect on the borrower. No?

House prices will fall if rates rise, I think. But, as with 10 years ago, they won't keep falling. An equilibrium is found. Something we have yet to find in the current market.

D.

TallGlass

wonderwall900 wrote: »

Uber are struggling in Ireland vs Hailo/MyTaxi http://www.thejournal.ie/uber-ireland-plans-3-3398524-May2017/

That said, globally, I think they will be an absolute giant of a company in coming years. Taxi style cars are the tip of the iceberg for Uber.

Uber is only struggling in Ireland due to themselves, they have no one else to blame, they continuously go to the regulator to push the agenda of no regulation.

Sorry, but that isn't going to happen. If they stopped pushing it and focused on providing there app to get regulated taxis to people then there would be an uptake of the service.

The regulator isn't going to move on an unregulated service in the ROI.

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ScumLord wrote: »

Facebook provide a good product when it comes to advertising. It's cheap, instant and effective. It's a no brainer for any company, there's no reason not to run ads on it. Print seems like a waste of time in comparison.

What I find amazing is how cheap it is depending on the country. If you're looking at the UK and Ireland, then classically it's about 25-30cent per click, depending on different factors, but this seems to be the norm. Teenagers might drop down to 12cent. But I've seen India drop down to just 1cent a click.

This compares to Google Adwords, where you're looking at probably nearly a euro per click sometimes.

Capt'n Midnight

RobertKK wrote: »

World population grows, so demand grows...

Problem there is that peak population is supposedly about 11Bn so only 50% more growth.

Also expanding in to areas with poorer people means you have to wait until they get richer.

Cheerful Spring

Facebook don't make anything? It just a website where people go to post about their life's. Just imagine if everyone just stopped using it.,