EagererBeaver wrote: » A "slight underdog" against Bisping? Come on ffs!
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » BJ Penn was just a psychopath and he got beat up in 6 of his last 10 fights before retiring and twice since his comeback because of it.
wonderfullife wrote: » Yeah but you get the real sense with Conor that he wants to be remembered as the guy who fought in many weight classes and took on all-comers very much like BJ Penn. It's very obvious he has his sights on the 170lb title, whatever about middleweight, but if he wins the welterweight title he sure as hell isn't defending it. For Conor it's all about escalating challenges. Mendes ---> Aldo ---> RDA --> Lawler. That was the direction they were going until RDA pulled out. So now it's more like Aldo --> Diaz --> Alvarez --> Mayweather --> Woodley? I still have a hard time believing he's giving Ferguson or Khabib a shot and what's the next escalation otherwise? Welterweight title. A lot depends on Maia.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » If he doesn't defend a belt at some stage his legacy will be the man who is afraid to lose a title.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: 4 titles, 0 defences.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » If he doesn't defend a belt at some stage his legacy will be the man who is afraid to lose a title. I think he'll fight Khabib or Ferguson just because the UFC will make him.
Ultimate Seduction wrote: » I'd rather have 4 titles 0 defences than 1 belt 4 defences. History will say he was a 2 or 3 weight champ,
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » 4 titles, 0 defences. He's picking the low risk approach. If he loses to Floyd, so what, he was meant to. If he loses to Woodley (or Maia, or Wonderboy, or Lawlor or Nick Diaz), so what, they're a "200lbs monsters" and he's a light weight. It's a no lose proposition, he jumps the queue and gets a crack with zero downside. Fight Khabib or Tony or whoever is #1 contender at LW and lose and the entire persona is gone, he'll have lost twice in a year and a bit against LW fighters. There's a much bigger risk to his brand and his legacy in actually defending a title than challenging up a division or doing a money grab exhibition boxing match.
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » If Conor actually decides to do that champions do and defend a title and then beat the likes of Khabib, Tony, Barboza, Gaethje and a few others then he'll be in the conversation for greatest FW ever, for now he's just another guy who beat Eddie Alvarez alongside Chandler, Aoki and Cowboy.
wonderfullife wrote: » He's also just another guy who beat Aldo alongside Max Holloway. Very easy to diminish someone's achievements if you really want to.
scudzilla wrote: » Look at the HW's, Lesner used to weigh in at the max of 265, fight night he must have been touching 290, what was Frank Mir? 220?? Mir beat him
sonofenoch wrote: » I've just been going through your post history to try find you say the same thing size/weight wise about Alvarez as you're saying about Woodley (haven't found it but reckon you must have) ....but by Christ what a downer you have on the guy, post after negative post on McGregor, have you ever had a positive to say? :D it's borderline obsession ....I also see you post in the Cork forum, me personally would never because I'm nowhere near Cork .......are you from that region? because I'm sensing a Cork/Dublin thing through all your negativity on Conor McGregor
wonderfullife wrote: » BJ Penn and Kenny Florian are very similar to Conor in frame and they both fought at middleweight and BJ fought at heavyweight if you're classing that Machida open-weight fight for what it is and he was very competitive. Brian Ebersole fought at 155lbs, 170lbs, 185lbs, 205lbs and Heavyweight. Kenny Florian fought at 145lb, 155lb, 170lb and 185lb. Rumble Johnson has fought at 170lb, 185lb, 205lb and heavyweight. Ivan Menjivar fought at 135lb, 145lb, 155lb and fought GSP at 170lbs. . Whether he can win or not, Conor can absolutely fight at 170lbs and 185lbs, for sure. As for his chances of winning against the current champions, I'd say he'd be favourite against Woodley and a slight underdog against Bisping.
Mellor wrote: » There are very few guys moving up 2 divisions and facing top 10 opponents.
wonderfullife wrote: » That's why I think Conor will try do it. He's always trying to chase bigger obstacles to overcome, he seems to thrive on people telling him "it can't be done". Nobody is saying "you can't beat Ferguson" but people would be telling him "you can't beat Maia", "you can't beat Whittaker" etc. I never said he'd win, just that I think he'll try - starting with welterweight.
Mellor wrote: » That suggests why he might chase the WW title. If he defends 3 or 4 times at LW. Gets a bit bigger. I could well see him taking a shot at 170. That's not a completely ridiculous suggestion. But as soon as you make it 170 & 185, it becomes ridiculous imo. There should be no mention on 185 until he has won at 170. And realistically, going down the CSAC route and splitting WW into 165 and 175 would be much more suitable.
sonofenoch wrote: » I've just been going through your post history to try find you say the same thing size/weight wise about Alvarez as you're saying about Woodley (haven't found it but reckon you must have) ....but by Christ what a downer you have on the guy, post after negative post on McGregor, have you ever had a positive to say? ...
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » Here, he can't beat Whittaker but if my saying it makes it possible for me to watch Bobby Knuckles spark McGregor I'll start screaming it.
Mellor wrote: » That suggests why he might chase the WW title. If he defends 3 or 4 times at LW. Gets a bit bigger. I could well see him taking a shot at 170. That's not a completely ridiculous suggestion.
Gamebred wrote: » Probably posted earlier but interesting Joe Cortez has been reffing Conor's sparring in the gym to make sure his game plan is legal and showing him to fight clean.
wonderfullife wrote: » Did you see the video John was looking at on instagram (I think)? Maybe he was asking is it legal?
Gamebred wrote: » No didnt see that only seen a video pop up on youtube with him,
wonderfullife wrote: » John posted a video of himself watching a particular sequence from Maidana-Mayweather on repeat. I found the sequence it's this bit here from 44:03 to 44:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_gOL2xgCM
Subcomandante Marcos wrote: » BTW the middleweight thing seems to be nothing more than an invention of your imagination. Has he ever actually talked about it? If he has was it every in an actual conversation or a throw away comment to media? I don't think he's stupid enough to think he can actually get in the cage with men that big.
What the fcuk is Anderson Silva talking about? He keeps mentioning my name over and over again. Look, I’ll fight any one of them. Make sure the numbers are right, make sure the situation is right.
