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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

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So, this is looking more likely to be on the cards sooner rather than later...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/38591420

Any opinion on who would win this potential fight?

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normanoffside

Floyd is really a natural Lightweight or Light Welter. Comparing him to hearns is a bit unfair as he was a huge welter.
I would have loved to see him take on a prime Duran or Sweet Pea at 135-140. I reckon that Duran just out bullies him and Sweet P would be a toss up.

Outlaw Pete

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

he'd have to have game to give it away

Indeed, you're absolutely right.... he's just gonna go in there with his chin up and his arms down.

Again, good spot......... and we'd all have missed it but for your eagle eyes.

blade1

normanoffside wrote: »

Floyd is really a natural Lightweight or Light Welter. Comparing him to hearns is a bit unfair as he was a huge welter.
I would have loved to see him take on a prime Duran or Sweet Pea at 135-140. I reckon that Duran just out bullies him and Sweet P would be a toss up.

Floyd v Sweet Pea = borefest imo

normanoffside

blade1 wrote: »

Floyd v Sweet Pea = borefest imo

Floyd was a lot more offensive at 140 and below

ThinkProgress

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Conor's legs look huge at the minute. He always had big legs but they are looking much bigger than usual at the moment, that's not always a good thing in boxing though.
Physically he looks in great nick though, much better than when he was cutting for 145, 155 seems to suit him really well.

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I'm convinced many McGregor fans look at Mayweather, then look at Conor... and they think Conor is the far more impressive looking athlete!

And they think this will somehow have some kind of bearing on the actual boxing match... :rolleyes: (although most will probably not admit to thinking this)

I was actually hoping Conor might shed some of that muscle mass he carries for MMA... it's only going to slow him down, and sap his stamina in a boxing ring!

Ash.J.Williams

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I'm convinced many McGregor fans look at Mayweather, then look at Conor... and they think Conor is the far more impressive looking athlete!

And they think this will somehow have some kind of bearing on the actual boxing match... :rolleyes: (although most will probably not admit to thinking this)

I was actually hoping Conor might shed some of that muscle mass he carries for MMA... it's only going to slow him down, and sap his stamina in a boxing ring!

Yes I was thinking that myself, lots of "experts " saying conor being used to 5min rounds means something

walshb

I'd say the way people wet themselves over Floyd and his getting hit so little that Hearns would need a KO to win..

Compu box Hearns/Floyd:

Hearns lands 100 from 500 thrown
Floyd lands 40 from 400 thrown

As well as Floyd on the Blackfoot all nite..

UD for Floyd. You know, because 400 punches didn't hit/score on him..

walshb

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Yes I was thinking that myself, lots of "experts " saying conor being used to 5min rounds means something

It doesn't seem to sink in with some..

Like saying sure the footballer covers 10 ks in a match..400 metre sprint? Not a fooking bother to him..

ThinkProgress

walshb wrote: »

It doesn't seem to sink in with some..

Like saying sure the footballer covers 10 ks in a match..400 metre sprint? Not a fooking bother to him..

It's sports-specific conditioning... but many people simply don't understand this!

There are many guys, that look in great shape... but they would be breathing out their ar$e after one or two rounds in a boxing ring. Because their body is not conditioned specifically for that kind of intensity or those specific movements!

(but hey, at least they would look great doing it) :pac:

Subcomandante Marcos

ThinkProgress wrote: »

It's sports-specific conditioning... but many people simply don't understand this!

There are many guys, that look in great shape... but they would be breathing out their ar$e after one or two rounds in a boxing ring. Because their body is not conditioned specifically for that kind of intensity or those specific movements!

(but hey, at least they would look great doing it) :pac:

I'm not extremely fit but I'm used to practicing jiu Jitsu. I can do an hours training session and be grand afterwards. We get boxers and kickboxers and gaa players and everything in between coming in to "the the UFC fighting a try". They're usually grand with the striking element for drilling and stuff but they're blowing out their arses after 10 minute on the mats rolling. They're all fitter than me by pretty much every metric imaginable except for jiu Jitsu. Sports specific fitness is far more of a thing than people realise.

walshb

That's just it..different sports and specifics cannot be tackled with any ease unless you work hard at that discipline. Sure, general fitness and athleticism and a specific skill set/discipline may help you in an alien sport, but it won't save you.

Call Me Jimmy

I remember Eddie 'The Salmon Of Knowledge' :P Alvarez saying before his fight with conor that boxers build up over a number of years to be 12 round fighters. Was saying conor couldn't up his diaz cardio to go five rounds with him in a matter of months.

I rewatched the diaz 2 fight and while it was great and conor got through it, it just about. His gas face was visible in the first round. That's why I don't think he will go the full 12 under any circumstances.

Eyes Down Field

ThinkProgress wrote:

I'm convinced many McGregor fans look at Mayweather, then look at Conor... and they think Conor is the far more impressive looking athlete!

If it were a body building contest, they might have a point. Floyd will come into his fight as he always does in incredible physical shape, conditioned and ready to go every minute of 12 rounds if necessary. McGregor can come in jacked if he wants but he would protect him against the best boxer in the world. It won't help his movement, his stamina or his hand speed.

walshb

That's why I said that the flow of the fight from Floyd is key..

If Floyd puts Conor under pressure, all kinds of pressure and also spooks him early then Conor may fold quickly. Conor better be able to relax and manage his engine, but not too relaxed in case he gets consistently whacked.

The whole fight and stage is Floyd's. Conor has no say here. All he has is hope.

Hope that Floyd doesn't wreck him too much and a very slim hope that he knocks Floyd out. He really is at Floyd's mercy.

Wheeliebin30

walshb wrote: »

That's why I said that the flow of the fight from Floyd is key..

If Floyd puts Conor under pressure, all kinds of pressure and also spooks him early then Conor may fold quickly. Conor better be able to relax and manage his engine, but not too relaxed in case he gets consistently whacked.

The whole fight and stage is Floyd's. Conor has no say here. All he has is hope.

Hope that Floyd doesn't wreck him too much and a very slim hope that he knocks Floyd out. He really is at Floyd's mercy.

I don't want him to be knocked out because it could affect his future ufc activity.

walshb

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I don't want him to be knocked out because it could affect his future ufc activity.

Knocked out as opposed to?

normanoffside

walshb wrote: »

Knocked out as opposed to?

He'll be pulled out before he is knocked out. TKO ching ching :pac:

walshb

normanoffside wrote: »

He'll be pulled out before he is knocked out. TKO ching ching :pac:

Unless knocked out by a shot or two..

Can't pull him out because they predict a KO

A KO can happen from nowhere.

normanoffside

walshb wrote: »

Unless knocked out by a shot or two..

Can't pull him out because they predict a KO

A KO can happen from nowhere.

McGregor is a big lump, i'd say it is a lot more likely he will be stopped without being counted out.
I'll be putting on an insurance KO bet all the same just in case!!

normanoffside

I've seen a few US media reports that McGregor is a former All Ireland Boxing champion, when if fact he is a former U-16 Dublin novice champion.

It's like comparing a former Junior B U-16 championship team to the current Dublin Senior squad. Ridiculous!

Outlaw Pete

The reason that appears in the American media from time to time is because Tony McGregor (Conor's Dad) said in an interview once that when Conor had been All Ireland champion boxer when he was a kid.

Not saying if it's true or not.... before you (or anyone else loses their shit)...... but that's where the quote comes from.

boxer.fan

This whole situation brings me back to 1981, when, against all odds, Big Daddy got the win over Giant Haystacks. . . . . . .

StringerBell

It is categorically not true, no ambiguity at all. No reason for anyone to lose their ****.

I guess it could play well over there as something to point to trying to give the appearance this is not basically a pro wrestling promotion designed to entertain (which it hasn't tbf yet barring brief moments dotted over four press conferences) and get you to part with your money.... or maybe they just took that comment at face value and didn't bother to check it out,who knows

I don't think it really cheapens All Ireland boxing titles over there either as I doubt they are held in high esteem in the states anyway so no real harm in using it for promo stuff.

Eyes Down Field

normanoffside wrote:

I've seen a few US media reports that McGregor is a former All Ireland Boxing champion, when if fact he is a former U-16 Dublin novice champion.

normanoffside wrote:

It's like comparing a former Junior B U-16 championship team to the current Dublin Senior squad. Ridiculous!

It's all about selling the fight. They want you to believe it will be somewhat competitive. Saying Conor is All Ireland. Champion, Floyd saying he's not the same fighter as X years ago. It's all designed to sell PPV buys.

Real boxing fans know Floyd obviously wins, and most likely by stoppage. Buy saying that in the media doesn't sell

blade1

blade1 wrote: »

Floyd v Sweet Pea = borefest imo

normanoffside wrote: »

Floyd was a lot more offensive at 140 and below

I just don't think he would be in any way offensive at any weight against a counter puncher as good as Whitaker.

snowflaker

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/canelo-golovkin-the-perfect-antidote-to-mayweather-mcgregor/

Boxing News pulls no punches

hbhook

Here's an article about 'The Magic Man' that someone posted over on badlefthook.

http://grantland.com/features/paulie-malignaggi-truth-telling-boxing/

Eyes Down Field

Watched a video of Oscar De La Hoya saying Mayweather promotions has been bad for boxing. He's just pissed that Floyd is taking money out of his pockets with Floyd's event before, and close to his promotion of Canelo/GGG.

He and Floyd know well that the causal fans are unlikely to buy a 2nd PPV in quick succession.

StringerBell

Came across this vid in work today, many a chuckle was had I must say. No punches pulled whatsoever and Kellerman bothers me a lot, but I have to say one of his first remarks is spot on "the lack of respect for the discipline is astonishing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9-CoLUz20

Gamebred

All speaking the truth, Wonder or Pete will be on shortly to try argue but that video is full of people in the boxing world with no bias towards Mayweather, hope the people that think differently come on the 27th and admit they are clueless, as I will If Conor makes even one round competitive.